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Lance 11-08-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrfish55 (Post 462060)



:lol!:

banditpowdercoat 11-08-2009 04:26 PM

OK, Back on the Herd thing. What about Natural Selection and Survival of the fittest?? Where does that fit into?

russp 11-08-2009 04:59 PM

In my opinion we have to exposed to these things in order to build immunity , the more we shelter ourselves the weaker we become . I f we are going to refer to livestock look at intensive livestock vs animals in the wild , a virus that hardly affects a wild animal will wipe out an entire confined herd. Our natural immunity is becoming weaker & weaker because we are naturally exposed to less & less.

banditpowdercoat 11-08-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by russp (Post 462080)
In my opinion we have to exposed to these things in order to build immunity , the more we shelter ourselves the weaker we become . I f we are going to refer to livestock look at intensive livestock vs animals in the wild , a virus that hardly affects a wild animal will wipe out an entire confined herd. Our natural immunity is becoming weaker & weaker because we are naturally exposed to less & less.

My point Exactly :mrgreen:

yes, Modern Medicine have increased lifespan's tremedously, but theres still someting to be said for natural immunity. Like the good intensions mommy that allways disinfects little Billy's every bump and scrape. Now, Billy is a teenager, gets a cut, and doesn't treat it right away. it gets infected and he get's sick. Rushed to Emergency because his arm is turning Purple. Little extreme scenario, but you get the point.

bbb1080 11-08-2009 05:16 PM

You don't acquire immunity if you die. I'm done with this topic, do as you will but as was said earlier you could very well be the vector that kills somebody close to you. You go be the big bad rebel that you are and ride away into the sunset doing just what you want, a big self centered idiot. Don't just think about yourself, we've gotten prosperous as a race because people think about others.

russp 11-08-2009 05:39 PM

on the flip side if the mass immunizations are weakening our natural immunities then who is doing the most harm , so crawl back in your bubble & don't forget to sterilize the door knob.

bbb1080 11-08-2009 05:57 PM

So you would be for small pox running rampant? Or measles killing children to "develop immunity"? Its a ridiculous argument. I grew up on a farm, ate dirt, never washed my hands, i know how that goes. This isnt even close to the same.

Canadian 11-08-2009 06:38 PM

Do you people actually understand what a vaccine is? Seriously.

"Natural immunity"?

We're not talking about over use of antimicrobial agents in day-to-day products. We're talking about a vaccine. A vaccine allows you to be exposed to the pathogen so you can, in fact, develop antibodies to that pathogen. Beyond doing this would you rather we do something archaic like have H1N1, small pox, rubella, etc. parties like the chicken pox parties of yore?

The ignorance is just appalling.

I'm done with this discussion. Ignorant people appear to be happy living in their misinformed bubbles and perpetuating more misinformation. Carry on as you will. Then the rest of us can sleep soundly knowing that "natural selection" may very well be the best course of action. Hopefully the rest of us can stay far enough away from you in the meantime.

bbb1080 11-08-2009 06:40 PM

hear hear dude. This is really frustrating. Ignorant people with terribly uninformed perspectives. Thanks for the support

leducreef 11-08-2009 10:04 PM

now i love that pic mrfish thats funny lol

all in all its a personal choice


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