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Delphinus 06-20-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 619250)
It wasn't this seller, but they are these ones. I can't remember the seller but they were similar in price. Hope this helps.

Sorry - which ones? I don't understand :redface:

Dez 06-20-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 619256)
Sorry - which ones? I don't understand :redface:

Oops, I edited my post and added the link. Sorry.

Parker 06-20-2011 03:18 PM

Dez,

Would you hesitate to put one of those fixtures on a 30" deep tank? One of my 400W HQI Ballasts bit it so I'm trying to decide of I should replace it or go a different direction.

Delphinus 06-20-2011 03:22 PM

Oh, cool. Man those look pretty keen! Thanks for the link!

kien 06-20-2011 03:39 PM

wow that looks kick ass. My halides are due for replacement this summer so I'm starting to think about potential alternatives myself :-)

Dez 06-20-2011 03:44 PM

By the fall I should know wether I will sell my halides or not. That'll be the 6 month mark with those LEDs. So far so good though.

kien 06-20-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 619265)
By the fall I should know wether I will sell my halides or not. That'll be the 6 month mark with those LEDs. So far so good though.

Sorry if you've posted this previously (I'm feeling lazy this morning), but do you run supplemental T5s with these as well?

Dez 06-20-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 619266)
Sorry if you've posted this previously (I'm feeling lazy this morning), but do you run supplemental T5s with these as well?

Yup, I ran the T5s with the halides as well. So the only variable that's change is I switched out the halides. You can tell when the LEDs aren't on. It's quite a bit dimmer.

kien 06-20-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 619269)
Yup, I ran the T5s with the halides as well. So the only variable that's change is I switched out the halides. You can tell when the LEDs aren't on. It's quite a bit dimmer.

Awesome. Looks like a worthy candidate for replacing my halides. If it's good enough for Dez it's good enough for Canreef :-D

Dez 06-20-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 619270)
Awesome. Looks like a worthy candidate for replacing my halides. If it's good enough for Dez it's good enough for Canreef :-D

Remember, wait another 3 months before you do anything. It hasn't gotten the Dez stamp of approval yet ;). 6 months I believe is a fair trial.

They are loud though and that's the thing that bothers me. I have a fairly sealed canopy so that made a huge difference. So the stamp of approval may hinge on the noise factor.

kien 06-20-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 619274)
Remember, wait another 3 months before you do anything. It hasn't gotten the Dez stamp of approval yet ;). 6 months I believe is a fair trial.

They are loud though and that's the thing that bothers me. I have a fairly sealed canopy so that made a huge difference. So the stamp of approval may hinge on the noise factor.


Oh ya, noise would totally be a deal breaker for me! I can't handle the noise of vortechs and they are not even that noisy LOL.

spawn 06-20-2011 10:56 PM

[quote=Dez;619274]Remember, wait another 3 months before you do anything. It hasn't gotten the Dez stamp of approval yet ;). 6 months I believe is a fair trial.

thanks.

Skimmerking 07-13-2011 01:21 AM

Dez how are the lights working out for you the LED's that is are they worth the money

Dez 07-13-2011 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 623234)
Dez how are the lights working out for you the LED's that is are they worth the money

Wow Mike, double question run on sentence? :)

I've had them for 3.5 months and like I've said, I'll wait 6 months. So far the colour and growth seem normal for my tank. Some corals are almost touching the water surface and they weren't 3 months ago. My complaint is the fan noise. Build quality seems good. I believe Aquarium Illusions are selling the same units for $600 and I got them for just over $300 shipped. I hope this helps.

Skimmerking 07-13-2011 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 623257)
Wow Mike, double question run on sentence? :)

I've had them for 3.5 months and lime I've said, I'll wait 6 months. So far the colour and growth seem normal for my tank. Some corals are almost touching the water surface and they weren't 3 months ago. My complaint is the fan noise. Build quality seems good. I believe Aquarium Illusions are selling the same units for $600 and I got them for just over $300 shipped. I hope this helps.



ya ya ya ya ok BOB I:lol: what are you my teacher now lol
so they worth the money? I really feel that all that have both them in the back of there mind they wish they didn't

Canadian Man 07-14-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 623261)
ya ya ya ya ok BOB I:lol: what are you my teacher now lol
so they worth the money? I really feel that all that have both them in the back of there mind they wish they didn't


HAHA!!!! I don't know if BOB is still around but a few of us old schoolers might be the only ones that get that!:lol:

Dez 07-14-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 623261)
ya ya ya ya ok BOB I:lol: what are you my teacher now lol
so they worth the money? I really feel that all that have both them in the back of there mind they wish they didn't

I remember Bob....ha ha. Like I said to all others before. I'll give them 6 months first :). If they work out well, I might actually move them to my frag tank and get different ones (not because of colour or growth problems, but because of fan noise). I designed the system to be quiet and the fan noise bothers me even though everyone that comes over doesn't seem to notice it. Hope this helps.

Dez 07-18-2011 12:56 AM

Well things are going a bit downhill now. I've had a 3 branch frag RTN on me and today a 3" colony RTN. I had a power outage today while I was gone and a month ago my wavysea broke down so my flow is not getting to certain areas of the tank. I've ordered a new one but it's been a month. I decided to test my CA - 370, Alk - 7 Mg 1450. I haven't tested these 3 parameters in over a year. Hopefully the RTN doesn't spread. Good thing the 2 items I lost I didn't really care about. I might stick a couple of powerheads in my tank until the new vertex Motions comes in. Also my T5's are over a year old so I'm getting a bit of cyano during the day and it disappears at night. Argh - fish tanks.

fishytime 07-18-2011 01:28 AM

RCC has a brand new wavysea unit......and Laurie should be down this coming w/e:biggrin:......well.......if doing saltwater reef tanks was easy........everyone would be doing it right?:mrgreen:

lastlight 07-18-2011 01:51 AM

Good luck Dez. Toss some fugly powerheads in there asap you gotta forget the pheasant balls and honour the meat and potatoes.

That totally made sense to me. Your mileage may vary (good luck !)

doch 07-18-2011 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 624131)
Good luck Dez. Toss some fugly powerheads in there asap you gotta forget the pheasant balls and honour the meat and potatoes.

That totally made sense to me. Your mileage may vary (good luck !)

For what it's worth, that one made sense to me! lol.

Delphinus 07-18-2011 04:03 AM

Sorry to hear this man, I dunno, maybe it's a bit of a summer phenomenon.. Anyhow, I hope the powerheads do the trick!

doch 07-18-2011 04:37 AM

On the bright side Dez, they are only a couple that you don't really care about. __it happens. Maybe it's those cheap ebay LEDs? JK. Good luck with everything man.

Dez 07-18-2011 12:46 PM

I was actually quite surprised that my parameters were okay. My target Ca is 380 and I was at 370. My Alk was right on and my Mg was a little on the high side but not completely out to lunch. I haven't changed my T5's cause 60" bulbs are hard to find and I'm contemplating switching those to LEDs as well. Hopefully it was just a freak power outage/less flow thing. I mean, I've been without the wavysea for a month. Oh well, such is life.

fishoholic 07-18-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 624129)
RCC has a brand new wavysea unit......and Laurie should be down this coming w/e:biggrin:......well.......if doing saltwater reef tanks was easy........everyone would be doing it right?:mrgreen:

Let me know Dez if you want me to pick it up for you.

Here's hoping no more sps rtn.

reefermadness 07-18-2011 02:08 PM

This is strange Dez.....no temp spikes? All other corals look fine? Perhaps it is just a blip on the radar.

Might want to do a water change.....and add some temp flow. Thats all I can think of. Good luck!

Dez 07-18-2011 02:21 PM

My Temp variance is between 78.6 - 80.4 daily and it used to be more when I was running halides. Also, it's not that I have less flow, the wavysea just spreads it everywhere. One thing interesting is that the colony that rtn'd was completely in the shade. The neighboring coral had grown so large that it completely shaded it from almost all light. I have been thinking about a major coral removal due to this overgrowth problem, but this is a daunting task.

Dez 07-18-2011 02:22 PM

Also, I do a weekly 45 gal water change so I don't think it's a water change issue.

Parker 07-18-2011 02:46 PM

I hope you get it figured out and it turns out to be something simple :)

doch 07-18-2011 03:08 PM

Hey, if you need some help with the removal of your corals that have been shaded out due to the 'problems' that you're having with too much growth, let me know. I'll come down to Edmonton and assist... my tank is looking pretty bare now that I have so much extra room!

Realistically, that's likely your problem. After so much time with no light, it's got to take a toll on SPS. To me, I doubt that it's due to your wavysea. You have so much good flow in the tank as is. The closed loop and the wavebox should have you covered.

Why would you be surprised that your parameters are on? You're running a reactor still right? Set it and forget it, no?

kien 07-18-2011 03:10 PM

doh! Sounds like me trying to figure out what caused my SPS event last summer :( As Tony said, could be seasonal disorder.. Hopefully you'll figure it out.

Dez 07-18-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by doch (Post 624239)
Hey, if you need some help with the removal of your corals that have been shaded out due to the 'problems' that you're having with too much growth, let me know. I'll come down to Edmonton and assist... my tank is looking pretty bare now that I have so much extra room!

Realistically, that's likely your problem. After so much time with no light, it's got to take a toll on SPS. To me, I doubt that it's due to your wavysea. You have so much good flow in the tank as is. The closed loop and the wavebox should have you covered.

Why would you be surprised that your parameters are on? You're running a reactor still right? Set it and forget it, no?

Yup, running a Calcium reactor. I dunno, it just seems that after over a year of not testing that maybe it should have drifted a little more. I am however pleased that it has remained stable.

Johnny, I actually might take you up on that offer sometime. The task just seems so daunting cause whatever I rip out, I need it to have a place to go and even with 9 ft of frag tanks. There isn't enough room/light down there. This summer is really busy for me with vacation, the huge pond project and just family fun, so it'll likely be the fall sometime.

Skimmerking 07-18-2011 03:56 PM

Dez may be something is nipping now at your tank . Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lets hope not

Parker 07-18-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 624248)
Yup, running a Calcium reactor. I dunno, it just seems that after over a year of not testing that maybe it should have drifted a little more. I am however pleased that it has remained stable.

Johnny, I actually might take you up on that offer sometime. The task just seems so daunting cause whatever I rip out, I need it to have a place to go and even with 9 ft of frag tanks. There isn't enough room/light down there. This summer is really busy for me with vacation, the huge pond project and just family fun, so it'll likely be the fall sometime.

I have more than enough room in my tank as well.. if you're doing a big trim and want to sell off some larger pieces to avoid making a bunch of frags I'd be more than interested.

Skimmerking 07-18-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 624259)
I have more than enough room in my tank as well.. if you're doing a big trim and want to sell off some larger pieces to avoid making a bunch of frags I'd be more than interested.

PARKER who is that? you own a tank :biggrin:

The Grizz 07-18-2011 06:32 PM

My frag tank is up and running now Dez so if you want to fill it up i would be down for it :biggrin:

Parker 07-18-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 624276)
PARKER who is that? you own a tank :biggrin:


Yep, it's been awhile. How many skimmers have you gone through since I've been gone? :mrgreen:

doch 07-18-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 624248)
Johnny, I actually might take you up on that offer sometime. The task just seems so daunting cause whatever I rip out, I need it to have a place to go and even with 9 ft of frag tanks. There isn't enough room/light down there. This summer is really busy for me with vacation, the huge pond project and just family fun, so it'll likely be the fall sometime.


Let me know pal! I'm on a shutdown starting september, running through to november-ish though. Hopefully we can find a timeline that works for both of us.

Dez 07-20-2011 05:08 AM

Well, I started the hacking of the forest today. Parker came by and wanted a couple of monti cap frags and ended up leaving with 6 large colonies. I wasn't expecting to really get rid of that much but I think I will be continuing the purge over the next bit as time permits. I added a fugly tunze for extra flow while waiting for my wavysea and cleaned my wavebox for the 2nd time in almost 2 years tonight. I also decided to mod it and cut every second guard out of the screen. It worked and there is better wave action now.

I removed the entire saltynuts acro which was probably the size of a regular cantelope. I kept about an 1 1/2" frag that was left on the rock. May it grow again. I started that one when it was about 2".

I also removed a huge stag. Here's a picture. I started this as a 1" frag stuffed in a hole in the rock.
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1311137806

It's bigger than my head.
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1311138347

Overall, I'm very happy with the colony removals. Now I can place frags that have been in my frag tank for a while due to lack of room in the display and watch those grow.

lastlight 07-20-2011 06:03 AM

Wow you got serious in there!

That's not your abrol is it?

That dang salty nuts just grows in a big 'V' it's hilarious! Fast grower tho.

Looking forward to the new FTS when the hacksaw goes away =)


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