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Zoaelite 06-20-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Magma (Post 826808)
Ok maybe Old timer is the wrong choice. Brand Junkie? Im just sick if reading numerous forums (not just canreef) where people who have been in the hobby for a long time, provide information to newbies such as "You should only use Radion LED's because thats what I use and if you cant use those then nothing else will do"

Or even people reading other threads saying this "letter" is now legal action when its all just rumors floating around forums which have been twisted through the power of the internet into this big problem which its really not. But again because these people wont buy a cheaper product because they have to have the brand name. Then they end up projecting there own feelings onto it and twist it even further for the next guy to read even more false information.

Again just my $0.02

Welcome to the internet.

A wise man once shared this with me, it seems the time pass it on.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9413/d6py.png

reefwars 06-20-2013 01:02 AM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2296964




interesting indeed:P

nrosdal 06-20-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 826856)

The ones they have there are just 220volts. There may be some coming available that run on 110v in about a months time :)

mrhasan 06-20-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 826856)

Something from China cannot be ripped off by another Chinese company. So its original ;)

Hint: Apple products come from China. Other generic companies in China reproduces exactly same apple product ripoffs and don't get sued. But when Samsung make a square with round edge phone, they get sued ;)

Slick Fork 06-20-2013 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 826866)
Something from China cannot be ripped off by another Chinese company. So its original ;)

Hint: Apple products come from China. Other generic companies in China reproduces exactly same apple product ripoffs and don't get sued. But when Samsung make a square with round edge phone, they get sued ;)

I'm not really sure why it would be less dishonest for one Chinese firm to steal from another Chinese firm? It's still one group of people stealing from another.

I didn't follow the Samsung case at all so I can't comment there. I'm sure there are generic Chinese knock-offs of Apple products. I would guess that if they tried to market themselves over here Apple would be filing papers fairly quickly. It's hard to sue a company though when the host nation doesn't respect copyright treaties.

donkey77 06-20-2013 02:27 AM

i think people are mad because they fork out top dollar for the tunze and mp's,
then the wp comes out for less then 100 bucks and some say is a better powerhead, i have both and one thing about the wp is that you can angle it wheres as the mp is straight on, i like that the mp power cord is on the ouside where as the cord for the wp is in the tank
ya iam just rambling

halwake 06-20-2013 02:45 AM

Well, back to the original question I have two on a 120 gallon 5 foot tank and I think they are great so far. I did get the adjustable power source but have not used it yet. I have the original power source hooked up on low and they are very powerful. I have been very happy with my purchase so far. They have been running for a month in the new tank. Can be a bit loud on random or wave but I don't really have anything to compare them too other than the small Koralia evo 750's. More power than I would ever need.

asylumdown 06-20-2013 03:00 AM

^^ this above is all that really matters IMO. D-baggery in marketing practices aside, performance product at Walmart prices.... market says they win. My brand loyalty ends at my wallet. If the companies that I have previously supported can't do better (either in terms of cost or worthwhile features), then that's their loss I guess. The only reason I see myself not buying one of these for my next tank is that I want everything to be hooked up through an Apex controller. If this thing ever gets that kind of a link-up... I will kiss my vortech's goodbye.

Acrowhora 06-20-2013 03:19 AM

they even have a wavebox now called WB-40...:wink:

The Codfather 06-20-2013 03:16 PM

Controller
 
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Originally Posted by asylumdown (Post 826901)
The only reason I see myself not buying one of these for my next tank is that I want everything to be hooked up through an Apex controller. If this thing ever gets that kind of a link-up... I will kiss my vortech's goodbye.

You can hook these up to an Apex, profilux, RA....
I have them hooked up to my profilux now.

Aquattro 06-20-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Codfather (Post 826965)
You can hook these up to an Apex, profilux, RA....
I have them hooked up to my profilux now.

But how easily? I saw your posts on the mods you did, way over my head. I have the ability to plug things in. Anything more, I need a fire extinguisher :)

Zoaelite 06-20-2013 03:53 PM

And here I thought you were in league with Tony's tech savvyness?

What else have I been lied to about...

Aquattro 06-20-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 826970)
And here I thought you were in league with Tony's tech savvyness?

What else have I been lied to about...

I'm pretty sure Stircrazy has posted multiple times about my house burning activities. I cannot touch wires or things go badly. I can build acrylic stuff great, and tanks, and rock structures, and I can rebuild the engine in my car, but I can't touch wiring or there will be smoke.

The Codfather 06-20-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 826968)
But how easily? I saw your posts on the mods you did, way over my head. I have the ability to plug things in. Anything more, I need a fire extinguisher :)

Real easy, I can do it.

daniella3d 06-20-2013 07:11 PM

Very easy with a reef angel. Just get the cable and that's it.

There is already plenty of codes to do what ever you want to do. waves, reef crest, lagoon, etc..

All I did was to buy the cable and plug it in, that's it. I uploaded the codes I wanted to use to my reef angel and it's working well. Things are getting really fun with quite a few people coming up with new codes for these pumpes each weeks.


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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 826968)
But how easily? I saw your posts on the mods you did, way over my head. I have the ability to plug things in. Anything more, I need a fire extinguisher :)


Aquattro 06-20-2013 07:26 PM

Do you work for reef angel? :)

Unfortunately I have one of those old school Apex thingys, and not sure there is a cable. Probably will be one day though..

neoh 06-20-2013 07:31 PM

I just picked up a second wp40 for my 77g long. One for random, one for wave. So far - I like it. I just wish it was stronger! :lol:

The Codfather 06-20-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by neoh (Post 827026)
I just picked up a second wp40 for my 77g long. One for random, one for wave. So far - I like it. I just wish it was stronger! :lol:

Stronger?? Ive got two on my 300 and its plenty, how do you hasve them set up that 2 of them arent strong enough....
Or is that a hint of sarcasm....

neoh 06-20-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Codfather (Post 827032)
Stronger?? Ive got two on my 300 and its plenty, how do you hasve them set up that 2 of them arent strong enough....
Or is that a hint of sarcasm....

No, no sarcasm - you just misread what I was saying.

I haven't received the second one. I got a second one because just one is not enough. My tank is 60" long, so getting flow from one side to the other is a pain.

daniella3d 06-21-2013 01:44 AM

I don't work for them but I am having lots of fun with the RA even tought I know nothing of programming.

I think some people bought the RA cable and adapted it for the Apex. At least I saw people having the Apex controller buying that cable and asking for help in the RA forum.

Here is some info on making it work with the Apex controller:

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...o-wp-40-a.html


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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 827023)
Do you work for reef angel? :)

Unfortunately I have one of those old school Apex thingys, and not sure there is a cable. Probably will be one day though..


donkey77 06-23-2013 11:14 PM

can they hook up like a mp10

daniella3d 06-24-2013 01:38 AM

how does a mp10 hook up like??

The pump is inside the tank, no part is outside.


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Originally Posted by donkey77 (Post 827717)
can they hook up like a mp10


Ram3500 06-24-2013 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by neoh (Post 827026)
I just picked up a second wp40 for my 77g long. One for random, one for wave. So far - I like it. I just wish it was stronger! :lol:

I have a 160 and on elisa after a few days there is no sand in the corner of my tank and you want two on a 70 gal . Your rocks are going to start falling over you must be bair bottem .

markjameslucas 06-24-2013 09:15 PM

Just received two 40's last week, and they are amazing so far. 140 for both plus shipping. Only mistake was to not order the variable controller as two of them are way too much water movement for my 160 gallon. I've since ordered, should be getting them in 1 week. As far as noise, they are way quieter than the vortech 25's when they were cranked. Highly recommend this product.

I might add that the light sensor that is supposed to reduce the speed when light is turned down doesn't really work for me. If completely dark the powerheads run at full speed.

daniella3d 06-24-2013 10:53 PM

Did you plug in the little thingy? if not then the night mode will not be active.

Also they say it is only to be with low output light. Now who's going to be able to use that??? since that include LED, MH and T5HO, the only light that can be used with this feature is probably power compact.

Pretty useless I think. On the other end, if you have a controller, you could use what ever force you want and what ever pattern you want with them. I dim them at night so I get like a reef crest mode but much lower in flow.


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Originally Posted by markjameslucas (Post 827881)
Just received two 40's last week, and they are amazing so far. 140 for both plus shipping. Only mistake was to not order the variable controller as two of them are way too much water movement for my 160 gallon. I've since ordered, should be getting them in 1 week. As far as noise, they are way quieter than the vortech 25's when they were cranked. Highly recommend this product.

I might add that the light sensor that is supposed to reduce the speed when light is turned down doesn't really work for me. If completely dark the powerheads run at full speed.


donkey77 06-25-2013 02:34 PM

can't you put something over the light thing so its not so bright, like a semi transperent box or something

markjameslucas 06-25-2013 03:13 PM

Yeah, I plugged that little module in. It's a litte weird though. In dim light, I believe it's supposed to work in a less powerful state, but completely black, it runs at full blast. Shouldn't it work when there are no lights on, it's in night mode, or less powerful? I just got an email saying today they've changed the controller so W1 can run in 50% or 75%, so you wouldn't need a variable power module.

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Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 827905)
Did you plug in the little thingy? if not then the night mode will not be active.

Also they say it is only to be with low output light. Now who's going to be able to use that??? since that include LED, MH and T5HO, the only light that can be used with this feature is probably power compact.

Pretty useless I think. On the other end, if you have a controller, you could use what ever force you want and what ever pattern you want with them. I dim them at night so I get like a reef crest mode but much lower in flow.


markjameslucas 06-25-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by donkey77 (Post 828045)
can't you put something over the light thing so its not so bright, like a semi transperent box or something

It's actually the opposite. :neutral:
it needs more light, or it runs at full blast.

daniella3d 06-25-2013 04:10 PM

Well they warn about using this feature with high output ligth will break it, so I am guessing unless you have very low lights like power compact, that your night mode is broken already. They mention that it is never to be used with high output lights or it might break.

I think it's just totally USELESS.

If you don't have an aquarium controller, maybe you should get one and control your pump through it. Or maybe get the Jebao power supply with different voltage and switch it to a less powerful voltage?

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Originally Posted by markjameslucas (Post 828055)
It's actually the opposite. :neutral:
it needs more light, or it runs at full blast.


rhody605 06-25-2013 06:02 PM

I got an update email from fish street about new controller with new modes with reduced flow

Here's a link to the new controller.
http://www.fish-street.com/jebao_wp-..._category_id=0

mrhasan 06-25-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rhody605 (Post 828095)
I got an update email from fish street about new controller with new modes with reduced flow

Here's a link to the new controller.
http://www.fish-street.com/jebao_wp-..._category_id=0

Yah a new controller is out but the problem is they are not selling it to anyone other than the people who bought WP40/25 from them. I contacted Nick about it; let's see what he says.

nrosdal 06-26-2013 04:59 AM

if people are interested i can definitely bring some in. Let me know and i will do what i can to help.

daniella3d 06-26-2013 02:33 PM

Dunno if it's true but I was told that the controller with reduced output was taken out of the market because there was problem with the pump burning with it, so they stop producing it until they could test a new one and sell it.

The new one is supposed to be out soon, maybe another week or two. I am waiting for mine as soon as they come out.

nrosdal 06-26-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 828262)
Dunno if it's true but I was told that the controller with reduced output was taken out of the market because there was problem with the pump burning with it, so they stop producing it until they could test a new one and sell it.

The new one is supposed to be out soon, maybe another week or two. I am waiting for mine as soon as they come out.

I am not sure where you may have heard that. But i follow at least 10 threads full of people using these with new and old controller on 4 different forums and have heard nothing of the sort. I also spoke to a rep at Jebao yesterday and everything is a go for the order we have coming.

maybe you can post a link for us?

Carandiru 06-27-2013 06:52 AM

What I wanna know is how to wire it up to my tunze 7092 wave controller so it's on the opposite cycle of the Nano Wavebox B-)

The Guy 06-27-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reef Supplies (Post 826621)
On the topic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPzRPga6uDg

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Why does this guy still work there!! what an idiot!! :silly:

HaZRaTTy 06-27-2013 04:46 PM

Haha I laughed so hard the first time I seen that video, In his defense he got some of the boxes on the plane haha!

Bblinks 06-27-2013 08:01 PM

Unbelievable! I feel like I am watching a bad episode of boarder security. I seen some bad freight handling but this is got to be the worst of them all!

mrhasan 06-27-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by clown lover (Post 828635)
Why does this guy still work there!! what an idiot!! :silly:

That's their way of quality control. The guy is just sorting out the bad boxes. I am pretty sure he got 90% of the bad boxes sorted out :lol:

daniella3d 06-28-2013 12:28 AM

I was told this by the person who own the store where I bought the pump. She's chinese and have a contact with the company. I was not sure if she was telling the truth and I am nor sure now with what you said.

She has the new controller on order for me and as soon as it gets in I will go get it.

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Originally Posted by nrosdal (Post 828306)
I am not sure where you may have heard that. But i follow at least 10 threads full of people using these with new and old controller on 4 different forums and have heard nothing of the sort. I also spoke to a rep at Jebao yesterday and everything is a go for the order we have coming.

maybe you can post a link for us?



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