Ol physics book. Bloody auto correct

Personly, not my cup of tea. Why would you want to look through yet another pain of glass.... the only time i have been a fan of this is when conecting two different tanks as i did many moons ago with fresh water. I basicly used two 49 gal tanks side by side and used 4" acrylic pipe in a "U" shape to conect them. And yes fish would swim through the pipe.

Steve

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Too many negative comments! I can't understand why, is this not a hobby that should embrace ingenuity? Ideas like this should excite us not incite a forum riot..... Like school yard bully's picking on the new kid- it's a new idea and its really neat.
Bottom line, I would never built it but I will take the time to follow along and enjoy this build as I have watching many others.
Good Luck Man- It's A Cool Idea


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Thanks!! I was going to stop posting because of this. I can understand that this is not for everyone. Low and behold personal taste. What Im not understanding is the comments towards the problems with this tank. It's like they are just out to cut other people's designs and ideas down. Like the guy who said they can't have sumps.... Why not? I have mine hooked up no problem. They can't ask if it can have a sump they tell me. Or tell me that mine leaks worst lol. Never heard of a tank that's a more of a leak proof design. Let me ask you guys something. Do you own one? Cause I do. And all the problems you name off I'm not having.. It's actually been super easy to take care of. Alot better than I thought it would be and I haven't even built the upper tank that will make maintenance even easier. And look 10x better. So with the problems you guys seem to think it has you best stick with reefing and away from engineering

Don't take the negativity to heart it is an interesting design as for my comments where only made to help for back ups to the back ups in case of the worst. Trust me my tanks are not "to code" sort of speak concidering my returns are half way down the tank one oops and I have half my tank water on the floor. It may seem critical towards your design but as I stated I e thought of it and now I'm going to see how it works through you concidering the wife will kill me if I tried.

Do what you do and have fun in the end that is what it's all about

Gonna return to my lurking now

Lol why would anyone want to do this in their home? Seems like bad news bears.... Ill advised.

Go hard buddy! Haters gonna hate! :biggrin:

It's human nature. People are afraid of what they do not understand :lol:

Less chatter more pictures! :biggrin:

Yes, get 'er done!
I want to see how your coral placement ends up. it would be kind of interesting to see coral growing up into the upper display area.

I think people understand it just fine. You're building a tank with essentially zero access. Most people like to be able to do things like place/move corals/rocks, clean stubborn coraline, clean the sand/bottom and remove unwanted pests without having to drain the tank completely. People also don't tend to like light being filtered by 1/2" glass. Doesn't mean you can't do it but you can't get upset with everyone because they think it's a bad idea which to be completely honest, whether you admit it or not, this is a pretty terrible idea.

Remember you asked for peoples experience and to see if anyone would be interested in buying it, so you got you asked for, no reason to cry about it. If you started a build thread with the intend if just sharing your creations you wouldn't get the same feedback.

My original comments were meant to be helpful, pointing out other common designs that give the exact same effect while still allowing access.

Yes, there are a lot of people who understand this concept, but if you re-read the first page (and the second and the third) of this thread you will also notice that there were a lot of questions regarding this idea which suggest to me that some people didn't quite understand the idea. Just sayin :-)

and for the record, the original poster wants to do this and appears to know what they are doing as they have answered everyone's questions on this idea. They did not ask, "should I do this", or "do you think this is a good idea?". I could be wrong but I think maybe what the OP is looking for are people who are actually interested in this idea and has experience with this sort of tank. :biggrin:

How about we try to be a bit more open minded? :-)

Open minded is a two way street.

Regardless whether the tank has a sealed top or not, it's a salt tank. We all have experience with this sort of tank. Most of us now how important access is, which is why many of us limit the size/height to something manageable.

Given the nature of the thread I think people are entitled to speak from experience which I still read as requested. It's also good public interest for people to know the pros and cons of a design like this if it were to be sold.

I am going to keep an open mind and agree to disagree with you :-)

Anyway, I'm still interested and would love to see a build thread as the build progresses. Don't let all the negativity dissuade you in your plans. I'm sure if you started a journal you'll find lots of interested people tagging along.

Kien doesn't even have 3500 posts so keep that in mind when passing judgement on anything he says.

I'd also like to see the build, I'm guessing everyone would but this isn't a build thread. If I was to ask you if you were interested in something, there's essentially two answers, yes or no. The point is you can't get upset if you get more no's than yes's.

you're going to dig up a lot of old dating memories for keener. easy now.

wow, how do you do water change in that thing? seem like a disaster waiting to happen.

I have enough worry about my tank as it is, I would surely not go put hundreds of $$$$ in corals and fish in such a tank.

Interesting concept though, just I would not trust it.

ok, what if the lifter pump fails?

If you drill a small hole in your return line just under the water level, or at the level that your sump can hold you won't have a flood. When your pump turns off it will siphon out your tank until it gets to that hole you drilled and then lose its siphon. Run your return all the way to the bottom of your tank with that trick.

Absolutely. What I did not see coming was people telling me how it is and saying it's a terrible idea. If you don't like the idea ok. But saying things like it can't have a sump and all the other things posted in here saying how it is when it's really not the case is what ****es a person off. And you do have access to the tank from the bottom. I can reach every corner of the upper tank with my hand. As for the glass thing I can kind of understand that but I am using sapphire glass which is crystal clear glass and doesn't filter colours. But yes I can understand that some people may not like it. Personal preferences is fine by me. Saying it's a terrible idea because it's not your preference is called rude buddy

Don't let them get ya down. You seem to me like you know what you're doing and I for one would love to see more of it :-)

Thanks I appreciate it. As for more pictures you will have to wait until I at least get the upper tank built or at least get the cabinetry work all done. Cheers

Awesome, now how about that build journal? :-)

How true. I think it is a neat system just not for me. I like to see new and different ideas myself, even if they dont turn out. (Not saying this wont ) i have tried several things myself that were doomed from the start. Difference is no one said anything till after i threw money down the toilet :mrgreen:

If this is what you want go for it. I personaly would lile to know how you get you hand in the tank to do something though :lol: it looks like there is onlu a couple inches of room in that picture.

Steve

Yes with that tank you can barely get your arm in. I just set that tank up foe a trial phase. It's just a regular tank sitting on some aluminium blocks to see how this concept will work. The custom tank being built will be about 12" taller and have a window cut out at the bottom 5" tall and span 30" I built a mock up out of wood just to get the sizes right

I'm excited about this build because if I was just about to start on a project very similar to this. I went to my local glass shop today to get a price estimate on the glass & he looked at me like I had lobsters crawling out of my ears. After a few minutes of explaining he finally said ok I'll cut the glass for u as many times as u need me to, it ain't gonna work but ill take ur money. All these derogatory remarks just makes me want to prove them all wrong :-)

Good luck on this I'm sure it will be awesome