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Aquattro 11-04-2012 04:43 AM

This guy is a tiny little sucker, really cute. Currently hiding in the sand, so hopefully he comes out soon. Probably getting hungry.

Aquattro 11-05-2012 02:51 PM

Failure #2 :(

reefwars 11-05-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 761145)
Failure #2 :(


that sucks man sorry to hear this.


i wasnt gonna say it as i do agree with qt but i added a leopard wrasse to my system the same day you posted you were gonna qt another one, shes just a small gal at 2"

there are 7 wrasses in this tank including 2 already established leopards, the new leopard was settled in in a couple hours and is doing well with the other fish and is eating frozen mysis already.


it sucks that theres such a risk for qt, as much as i would like to say for sure my fish isnt sick or going to get sick i have to take a chance on some things.

leopards imo are one of the fish who dont do so well with qt , they are such a finicky fish untill they are comfortable with their surroundings.


sorry to hear this brad , but now maybe look for a leopard from someone elses system and just plop him in there??....i know its a tough make or break situation

reefwars 11-05-2012 03:11 PM

i know someones next post is gonna be how they had a leopard in qt that did fine , but i find them to be a tricky fish especially when they come from the wild.

reefwars 11-05-2012 03:11 PM

did you find the body or he just never came out?

howdy20012002 11-05-2012 03:13 PM

sorry to hear of your loss.
wrasses are also notorious for dying for no apparent reason.
I wouldn't blame the QT as long as it is set up properly.
In my experience, any wrasse is very hit and miss regardless of where you put them.

Aquattro 11-05-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 761151)
did you find the body or he just never came out?

Lying on the sand. It was out eating yesterday, so no idea. Tank should be fine, all water came from DT.
The LFS has a second one that is doing fine there. Going to stock the tank with a couple damsels to make sure it's not something in the tank. Man, so tempted to just add one to the tank, but I don't want to lose what I have :(

reefwars 11-05-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 761154)
Going to stock the tank with a couple damsels to make sure it's not something in the tank.

thats what i would probably do too, practise on some hardier fish and if they do well at least you have some piece of mind about the water quality in the qt.

leopards are pretty easy to come across so its not like you have to take theonly one youll see in ten years;)

another thing i notice about most leopards is they dont take well to being the only fish, they like friends or they act weird:)

reefwars 11-05-2012 03:31 PM

maybe try a pair next time and sell of the other after qt??

Coralgurl 11-05-2012 04:46 PM

Don't feel bad Brad, I added a flame angel to my dt last week, no qt. Haven't seen it since, figure its a goner, even though it was fine at the store. Acclimated for an hour, in the tank and gone. Fish...ugh...

Borderjumper 11-05-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 761145)
Failure #2 :(

Shltty :sad:

Borderjumper 11-05-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 761160)
maybe try a pair next time and sell of the other after qt??

That may give them a little more confidence.. Or just cost twice as much when they both die... If you decide to try it I would buy the second off ya after quarantine.

windcoast reefs 11-05-2012 06:23 PM

Than sucks! Sorry to hear it didn't make it. I added my new guy to the display, he is doing well but I don't think I will ever ad one again, just because of the risk.

kien 11-05-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 761145)
Failure #2 :(

:hug:

Aquattro 12-07-2012 02:35 AM

Ok, LFS called tonight and got a couple more leopards in, so wrasse #3 added to QT. Tank is fully established with a couple of damsels, LR and corals, so she should feel at home. hit the sand right away, so hopefully I see her come out again.

tim the toolman 12-07-2012 02:51 AM

Persistence is the key. Hopefully

Northernseacorals 12-07-2012 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 756844)
So, not having a really well established QT tank may have contributed to the new leopard wrasse not surviving.


To think $24 worth of Prodibio Startup would have saved that fishes life.

Aquattro 12-07-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Northernseacorals (Post 770843)
To think $24 worth of Prodibio Startup would have saved that fishes life.

Tank was setup with 30 pounds of cured live rock, so I'm not sure what magic juice would have done to help. The wrasse at the store in a 5 year old tank also died, probably wouldn't have helped there either.

Northernseacorals 12-07-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 770849)
Tank was setup with 30 pounds of cured live rock, so I'm not sure what magic juice would have done to help. The wrasse at the store in a 5 year old tank also died, probably wouldn't have helped there either.

You ought to give it an honest try Brad, would have totally stabilized the tank for you mate.

:mrgreen:

Aquattro 12-07-2012 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Northernseacorals (Post 770852)
You ought to give it an honest try Brad, would have totally stabilized the tank for you mate.

:mrgreen:

It's not a product line I'm interested in using. But the day after the wrasse died, I added other fish which have done fine, so the suspicion I had that the tank wasn't ready wasn't founded. Leopard wrasses are just more delicate than I had thought. Of three black ones, 2 died here a few weeks apart, the third in a 5yr+ tank at the LFS also died, so I'm confident that it's not a tank/water quality issue. My tank also housed SPS shortly after the wrasse and it's all doing fine, polyps out, encrusting, etc.
My mistake was over estimating their toughness. I think.

howdy20012002 12-07-2012 03:20 AM

a tank setup with 30 lbs of cured rock and an improvished sandbed is more than ample to quarantine a tiny leopard wrasse.
Wrasses are notoriously bad at dying regardless of where they are put, what you have in the tank, or any additives you may add.
I blame the fish, not the owner.


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