Thanks for the info

I will raise the skimmer so it will be sitting about 7 inches of water. I only started at the max as that seam to be the setting my Skimz SK181 worked best at. With the sicci pumps, I guess its a whole other ball game.

I'm a little disappointed to hear I just missed out on a newer model :cry: Timing is everything I guess

You for sure have not missed out on a new model its going to take at least a year to get anything here. Development is only planned for winter /spring 2014 and nothing is final.

Ah, now I understand

I'll be watching for the new models as I have been thinking about up-grading the skimmer in my other set-up

may need to go a bit less, i have two one at the store on a 400-500g system and another on my personal 100g system home. the one at the store runs in 6" and the one at my house is also at 6" i had started both at 9" and found it works best in 6" of water and is very touchy about its depth.

awesome skimmers and have nothing but great things to say about them and how they perform , plus its a great price tag.

the 250 and 150 work better in higher water.


hth

cheers

denny

concept aquariums

Thanks for tip Reefwars

I will go for 6 inches.

Your timing is great as I was planning to adjust the stand the skimmer sits on later tonight

Cheers

Wait, I am confused?!?! There is no stock now, and the new versions will not be available until November of NEXT YEAR?

Charles

Basically, you got it. I was able to snag one from Concept in Calgary about a month ago -- he had 5 left at that time. Call him up, those might be all of them remaining. (and likely anyone who has one, will not part with it :D)

concepts have stock left last time I checked, but we have stopped production of the current model due to market changes moving to DC inverted pumps. This sort of re design takes time.

I know these are hot property and probably one of the best skimmers on the market but we have to move with the times

New model we hope will be spring 2014, not sure where you are getting November from.

I understand that things change. At the same time I am not willing to buy a product that is already discontinued and has nothing to replace it for over a year. What do I do for support in the mean time?

Charles

I am not sure what the argument here is?

if you are not willing to buy the highly respected original unit then dont, consumer choice

What do you do about support? Contact me, why would that change?

I want to buy it but if it is discontinued, what do I do if the pump fails in 90 days, or there is a crack in the volute or ???

Charles

then we replace it!!

The pumps are sicce

the bodies are Skimz

Both readily available.

OK, that answers my questions, thank you very very much.

Charles

;)

welcome :)

saw your other post on our forum - nope not got any sorry, only required spare parts

hi charles

we still have some in stock , there are new models in the works but as michael mentioned the release date is still a ways away.

these are great skimmers , replacement parts are always available and to be honest i havent had to warrenty one single skimmer since they have been released and i bet ive sold over 50 units throughout canada.

i currently use a 450 home and several at the store with never an issue.

the skimmers are being discontinued but only for the reason of being upgraded to dc , the origional model still works fine and you have my word this is a reliable skimmer and at a great buy that i would recommen]d to anyone....love these skimmers from day one:)

pm me and ill talk to dave about what i can do to help with pricing on them for you, i believe i have 2 x 250's and 2 x 450's and maybe 4 150's still left.

cheers buddy


denny

Bought a 450 a couple of weeks ago for my breeding setup at Concepts, and man I have nothing but good things to say about this skimmer, it pulls $hit like there's no tomorrow and since this is s breeding setup, I needed a skimmer that could handle a big bio load since a lot of food is going into this setup. Thanks to Denny and Dave for their advice on this monster of skimmer. Skimmer is dead silent and it keeps my nitrates in my setup where i want them to be. Now i'm looking for a 150 for another setup since I've seen what these skimmers can do, I'm sold!!

Any update for an arrival date for the new model?

Yep, we parted company with Skimz after an issue with what we got in terms of quality with the prototypes and what we got as a manufactured final product, apparently if the prototypes were right then it would be our fault if they made the production ones wrong, HUH WTF!! And on first batch - guess what?!!

I guess the extreme quality everyone saw had to come to an end at some point based on the cost!

So we have partnered with BM to make us a new body, a company we can really trust, but this wont be normal BM style, tooling or material used, they are going high end on our guidance. They just moved to a new factory so we have not been able to re start the project, but most is designed. The weir gate is very funky and efficient. I also have a concept in test for a dual cone, but needs to go through some performance testing.

I expect late spring, but hey Rome was not built in a day ;)

Looks neat but I think the pumps inside the housing is crazy.

I can remove my pump, as most others can, without taking my skimmer out of the tank.

That to me would cause me to lose my mind.

Looks good. Probably works good too, but the maintenance, no matter how fast you claim it to be, is doubtable the two minutes you mentioned.

Maybe you could post a video of the two minutes it takes to remove your skimmer, undo the finger screws. Remove two pumps and clean them. I would love to see that.

Maybe I misread, if so sorry about that. But I would never buy a model with enclosed pumps.

Unfortunately the majority rule when it comes to getting marketing insight when developing a new product, and the market determined very early on majority want internal pumps for space saving. If that means the odd sale is lost for those that want external then of course there are other brands.

Good too hear where things stand, I'll likely be looking for a bubble magus :)

I agree with space saving issues for some.

I intentionally built my sump to accommodate skimmers and a future upgrade if needed.

As I mentioned, I'm sure it's a good product.

How many people actually make up the "majority"?


If its the Canreef bunch, it's a very small audience. Hence the majority of skimmers having external pumps. I'm sure these huge companies have also done some research.

I would still like a video of the two minute maintenance. :twised:

Best of luck! Nice seeing initiative to develop something different. Whether its my cup of tea or not.

Thanks for the reply.

thats funny cause after owning a model with the pump internally ill never go back to an external.



i maybe cleaned out my body and pump once a year and the couple of minutes it takes to unscrew the bottom i find is not bad at all, in fact with the pump enclosed i actually find it to be cleaned less often then my old skimmers were;)


after a year of use i still think the csc lines are top of the line and i prefer them over the vertex omega lines or even some of the dc lines , with that said im not a huge BM fan so i hope the new lines live up to the old or even surpass:)

I see your point Denny. But asides from the pump staying "cleaner" and a smaller foot print...

Who knows... If my built like a tank euro reef RS100 ever lets me down ill look closer.