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Doug 05-24-2012 12:08 AM

I will just put a coat hanger on my 15yr. old 14 in. tv...:lol:

Dr_Hicks 05-24-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 718897)
I will just put a coat hanger on my 15yr. old 14 in. tv...:lol:

haha I did not think peasant-vision still worked after they changed it over to HD via the airwaves....

I do clearly remember the tinfoil LOL

Doug 05-24-2012 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Hicks (Post 718902)
haha I did not think peasant-vision still worked after they changed it over to HD via the airwaves....

I do clearly remember the tinfoil LOL

Due to my birthdate I can remember thats all we had...:lol:

mike31154 05-24-2012 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 718897)
I will just put a coat hanger on my 15yr. old 14 in. tv...:lol:

Chuckle, that might work well for a few channels in the flatlands of Manitoba, but you're in them thar mountains now & nowhere near a major broadcaster. Might be lucky & a CBC signal will bounce off the clouds for you on a rainy day.

When I was living in Ottawa all I had was a small TV with rabbit ears as well. Free TV and when it comes right down to it, what I got (about half dozen channels) was really all I needed. Some local news & programming in fat cat city. For internet I had Bell DSL, worked fine too. Now I'm forking out close to $100 a month for a Shaw bundle that offers little flexibility in programming choices. Internet is pretty good & Shaw actually offers a few neat features like photoshare, web page etc. I imagine Telus offers similar stuff & there are plenty of other ways to share photos & files these days. Definitely thinking of cancelling the TV though. Gazillion channels & nothing on but reality & infomercials.

Doug 05-25-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 716055)
I also got the run-around with Shaw and they try to add $5 here, $10 there and my bill would suddenly jump every couple of months. When I call, they would say "oh, I don't know why that charge is there. Do you want me to remove it?" Well duh!!! Then got a sweet deal with Telus when Optik was just coming into Burnaby. I called up Shaw to cancel my services and the rep lied through his teeth saying that he would price match and I would keep all my channels and have high speed. Instead, they billed me almost $40 more than my Telus price, cut my internet to "light speed" (which is almost like dial up) and cut all my channels to just the basic which is about 24 channels. When I called up a few days later, and found out that the Shaw rep had lied, I blew my top and cancelled everything with that company. Since then, they send me a notice at least twice a month with new offers which they wouldn't offer when I was originally planning to switch.

Been very happy with my Telus TV. I can PVR 3 shows including a HD channel and watch a fourth recorded show at the same time, while using my internet and having my wife and sister-in-law downloading on their laptops. They even through in a free second pvr when I installed a LCD tv on my back deck during last year's Stanley Cup playoffs.

I calculated that compared to my Shaw billings, I will save well over $2000 over the 3 years contract. NEVER GOING BACK TO SHAW.

My Telus bill (TV including HD & 7 packages; High speed internet and free land land) was about $48 for the first year, then $65 for the next year and is still under $80 for the last year.

My last two Shaw bills were in the $120-$135 range and I had NO pvr, no HD channels, only Channels 3 to 55, regular high speed, and a no frills land line.

Since switching, I literally saved enough to buy an extra coral colony or two just from the difference in bills between my old Shaw and my Telus TV.

$135 vs $45 (or even <$80 now). Hmmmmmm.

Even at $120 for Shaw, I saved/am saving over $2100 over the three years contract. And when I phoned Telus, they threw in 6-7 free movie channels for three months just for fun.

My sister had to buy her Shaw pvr and its the one where you can only watch one channel or pvr it, you can't watch a different channel while pvring. Kinda pointless to me.

Anthony


Wow Anthony. How do you get that for under $80. If I read correct the package I looked at had only 5 theme packs and is $133 after first 6 months

Flash 05-25-2012 03:56 PM

my parents have telus, and would rather watch my shaw tv! I like shaw, they are very helpful. i have a pvr and digital cable. love it!

SeaHorse_Fanatic 05-25-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 719317)
Wow Anthony. How do you get that for under $80. If I read correct the package I looked at had only 5 theme packs and is $133 after first 6 months

I signed up very early on before the optic-fibre line was installed and got their best price. I also don't pay for my phone line (I called to set that up, but their customer service rep told me if I don't need caller ID or long distance, etc. and just used the phone for local calling & incoming calls, I didn't have to pay for it). Telus has to activate a line anyways, so its their line, not mine, but I use it as my local house phone.

I have long-distance on my cell & almost everybody who calls does so on my cell so I don't need an extensive house phone package. Its for my own use or my family to call us mainly. But what works for us may not work for others.

So I only pay for tv & internet & I get discounts on both. I find that when I call them as my discounts expire, they're good about giving me another 3-6 months of other discounts or free movie channels, etc.

Doug 05-25-2012 09:48 PM

Ok I see Anthony. Thanks. I was talking with them today. They are checking to make sure its available in my area, as its a new address. I also talked to Shaw. :D

StirCrazy 05-25-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 719395)
Ok I see Anthony. Thanks. I was talking with them today. They are checking to make sure its available in my area, as its a new address. I also talked to Shaw. :D

what ever telus says they'll give you, write it down and then call shaw and they will beat it. a friend went back and forth between them about 3 or 4 times and got a sweet deal out of shaw.

Steve

SeaHorse_Fanatic 05-26-2012 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 719401)
what ever telus says they'll give you, write it down and then call shaw and they will beat it. a friend went back and forth between them about 3 or 4 times and got a sweet deal out of shaw.

Steve

Yup, I always do the same. Got the Telus offer in writing and called Shaw about beating it. Play one against the other.

Anthony

burgerchow 05-26-2012 01:19 AM

the problem is that Shaw won't put anything in writing. That's why I left them.( see my previous post)

Doug 05-26-2012 05:35 PM

Thats ok. I will get a quote from each for sure. Still waiting for Telus to get back to me after they check to see if I can get the service in my area.

sphelps 05-26-2012 06:53 PM

If Shaw has broadband internet out there yet you might be able to get a promotion if it's still new. When they released it here I got the broadband 50 and basic digital TV for $40/month. I also managed to lock that in for 2 years instead of 1 but mostly because of a mistake the sales guy made. The broadband 50 service alone is regularly $70/month.

Doug 05-28-2012 10:54 PM

I,m going to call them Steve. Apparently Telus not to interested in new business. They were suppose to call me back but nobody has.

acepumping 05-29-2012 04:46 AM

go telus. i pay 135 for phone internet and all t.v, way better bundles then shaw..

Doug 05-29-2012 01:22 PM

And how would one do that if they cant bother returning calls?
Had a nice chat with Shaw yesterday. Not much different in bundles actually. Shaw has a nice large bundle for $150 with no contracts. Telus similar bundles is $134 as you said but with a contract.

StirCrazy 05-29-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 720359)
And how would one do that if they cant bother returning calls?
Had a nice chat with Shaw yesterday. Not much different in bundles actually. Shaw has a nice large bundle for $150 with no contracts. Telus similar bundles is $134 as you said but with a contract.

are you looking at digital tv or just normal cable? If digital, I have an extra digital box laying around (not HD though)

Steve

Doug 05-29-2012 06:01 PM

Figured on one HD box, and two digital, one of which I get free and have to buy the other.

oyf709 05-29-2012 09:42 PM

I can say both has their own good and bads. My huge issue with Shaw is when you are in a populated area your HS internet will never get to where it suppose to be. However, with TELUS, unless you 1) never got any issues or 2) know who to talk to when you have problem, you will have nightmare at nite.

martinmcnally 05-29-2012 10:10 PM

Both are bad and good. I finally ended up with Shaw after the 20th technician at Telus finally told me the truth (I am just a little to far from the exchange for ASDL to work correctly). My internet used to drop out during the day and come back on at night a symptom of signal fading on the line due to the increase of temperature during the day.

Also had some friends say Telus was terrible even in the new neighborhoods in Red Deer with fiber to the door. I seen it myself. The TV would go all fuzzy if the phone rang and stuff like that. They tried to cancel and told they were locked in a 3 year contract which they definitely did not agree to. Telus were unable to produce the audio recording of them agreeing to the 3 year contract so they got out of it in the end.

StirCrazy 05-30-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 720395)
Figured on one HD box, and two digital, one of which I get free and have to buy the other.

I'll give you my one down stairs so don't buy a second one.

Steve

Rice Reef 05-30-2012 12:51 AM

Shaw wins this year for me. I was solicited by Shaw last dec and got a $30 per month deal. Extreme high speed, telephone and standard cable which incl tsn, sportsnet and Disney for my young kids for one yr no contract commitments and also $300 visa gift cards.

mike31154 05-30-2012 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rice Reef (Post 720450)
Shaw wins this year for me. I was solicited by Shaw last dec and got a $30 per month deal. Extreme high speed, telephone and standard cable which incl tsn, sportsnet and Disney for my young kids for one yr no contract commitments and also $300 visa gift cards.

$30/month for all that. Sweet deal, sounds too good to be true. My Shaw bill is close to $100/month with high speed internet & TV bundle, no phone & fairly basic with the TV channel selection. I'll have to give them a call to see what's the deal here with long time customers like myself.

This thread reminds me that I have a Bell ExpressVu satellite dish still attached to the outside of my house. Been there since I purchased the home in 2004. I guess it's about time I took it down, never used it, might make a nice bird bath for my garden, or if anyone wants to buy it for cheap, shoot me a pm. I took a quick look at their web site & it appears they don't have much to offer, especially out west here. Looks like they're pretty much out of the running in these parts.

Doug 05-30-2012 12:51 PM

Agreed Mike. What kind of deal is that? What, they just pick a customer every so ten and say here is a deal?????

My Shaw large bundle is regular $149 as listed on their web page. Premier tv, best of HD, great channel selection, everything but the movie crap channels, high speed internet and home phone with a long distance package. And no contract.

I still have to buy my HD receiver, get one digital box free and pay for the other. Yet a decent overall deal, as compared to what I have here.

And as Telus still cant bother calling me back, I guess its Shaw.

mike31154 05-30-2012 02:34 PM

Could be one of those 6 month 'get you hooked on a bundle' deals & after that the rates crank up to 'normal' levels the rest of us schmoes get. And yes, I had to buy my Motorola digital cable receiver as well.

Or we might all have to move to Victoria, but it rains too much there, so I reckon I'll stay in the Okanagan & deal with the sunshine tax & high Shaw bills instead.

Rice Reef 05-30-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 720514)
Agreed Mike. What kind of deal is that? What, they just pick a customer every so ten and say here is a deal?????

My Shaw large bundle is regular $149 as listed on their web page. Premier tv, best of HD, great channel selection, everything but the movie crap channels, high speed internet and home phone with a long distance package. And no contract.

I still have to buy my HD receiver, get one digital box free and pay for the other. Yet a decent overall deal, as compared to what I have here.

And as Telus still cant bother calling me back, I guess its Shaw.

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Originally Posted by mike31154 (Post 720530)
Could be one of those 6 month 'get you hooked on a bundle' deals & after that the rates crank up to 'normal' levels the rest of us schmoes get. And yes, I had to buy my Motorola digital cable receiver as well.

Or we might all have to move to Victoria, but it rains too much there, so I reckon I'll stay in the Okanagan & deal with the sunshine tax & high Shaw bills instead.

It is for 12 mths and it goes back to regular pricing. They ( Shaw) set up a booth in front of Walmart back in dec. this was to attract new customers to Shaw. I was with Telus and was paying $45 per mth for the three items then and my contract was coming up for renewal. Telus was not able to match nor was willing do anything so I switched. As I was about to switch Telus gave me a retention call and was going to extend my $45 per mth for another year... Isn't this ironic?
My brother and parents had also switched and got the same deals.

Doug 05-30-2012 10:18 PM

$119 for first 6 months Mike, then $149 after

mike31154 05-31-2012 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rice Reef (Post 720589)
It is for 12 mths and it goes back to regular pricing. They ( Shaw) set up a booth in front of Walmart back in dec. this was to attract new customers to Shaw. I was with Telus and was paying $45 per mth for the three items then and my contract was coming up for renewal. Telus was not able to match nor was willing do anything so I switched. As I was about to switch Telus gave me a retention call and was going to extend my $45 per mth for another year... Isn't this ironic?
My brother and parents had also switched and got the same deals.


Hmm, might have to move to Vic after all. I have to ask though, what's the regular price after 12 months?

Doug 07-05-2012 03:35 PM

Just an update. I,m with Shaw. No particular reason, except as I said ,Telus never called back????

My Shaw package is $149. Similar Telus is $133. I did not look at the differences in them however for channel selection. No contract is what appeals to me, even if I get nothing for my $16 more.

Mind you I said so far........:lol:

Now as for my cell phone. Good thing I called Rodgers and asked about any charges when keeping my Manitoba number here for awhile. Its all good. :lol: Someone changed my long distance plan to 500 m texting, when I already have unlimited texting. Then every local call I received was long distance.

As usual however the customer service was excellent and we worked it out to the best outcome possible. One thing I,m not happy about is the loss of my Manitoba plan. The called it a small population base. :lol:. So data plan is more here for similar. I ended up with taking less for a plan but actually saved a bit of money, so thats fine. Phone time is ok but not much data plan. I had 2g on my old one and only 250m here but likely fine for what I use it for. I just have an i phone for calling and texting anyways...:lol:

globaldesigns 07-05-2012 05:07 PM

Both are bad and good. I consider them both the devil, it is just a matter of which devil you wish to pay.

Here is my point of view, based on technology:

Telus = DSL, your speed will be determined by the distance your house is to the hub. The farther you are, the slower you get. Benefit though, whatever your speed is, will not change...

Shaw = broadband, you are basically connected to a very large network, the more people on it, the slower your connection will be. However, this technology can have faster download burst rates than DSL.

I would determine what you will use it for. If you use Netflix, then you want to make sure you have the bandwidth alottment, the more you watch, the more bandwidth you will soak up. Especially if you do things like Torrent. All providers have caps, nothing is unlimited like the advertising states, except for your actual connection. You have unlimited connection to the internet, but NOT unlimited bandwidth/data.

Based on what you want to use it for, then you can decide whom and what package to buy.


Edit: OOOPS!!! after typing all this, I reread and realized you were talking about tv bundles. Oh well, I will leave and hopefully this helps someone else. In regards to tv, I went with Bell, use to be on Shaw... Bell is 100% true digital in transmission, even though a program may still be old with poor quality. Bell was same price, but HD (lots of channels) were free, free network roaming, and so much more for the same price.

chewie 07-11-2012 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 719401)
what ever telus says they'll give you, write it down and then call shaw and they will beat it. a friend went back and forth between them about 3 or 4 times and got a sweet deal out of shaw.

Steve


Did the same thing. Have ALL channels, fastest internet ( xtreme) and land line plus shaw sent two HD pvrs to me. Paying $108 a month, good for one year...
My In laws have Telus and I think the HD channels are garbage. We both have the exact same 50" LG Lcd TVs and Shaws picture wins Hands down. Telus' picture is more grainy and thier picture keeps cutting off and on every once and a while. Had to have Telus visit a few times to get things sorted out ( phone cutting in and out, pvr not working etc)
The only thing I do think is neat is the call display coming up on the tv when someone calls....not cool enough though to put up with crappy (IMO) service and having to sign a contract.

Doug 07-11-2012 03:17 PM

So how the heck does one get that, when I have the medium package, which is regular $149, paid for my one HD receiver, pay rent for 2 of my other digital boxes and only get 6 months at the cheap rate??????????????????????????????????????

chewie 07-12-2012 01:23 AM

shaw
 
My wife called up and said we are going to cancel and go with telus if they cannot beat their price. At the time we where paying just under $200 /month. So that is what they gave her. Maybe we just lucked out and got a good representative or it may be because we have been with them for years and have referd alot of friends to them. (Get so much off as well for each referal)

Doug 07-12-2012 02:25 AM

Ohhhh. I see. I think. Not sure how a company, {and I,m sure Shaw is not alone}, can charge some one price, another a different price and so on, for more or same packages.

chewie 07-13-2012 07:17 PM

Yeah i totaly agree. Large corporations are all the same, they will gouge you for every penny they can to increase their profit. If you dont complain then they will continue to do so. Its like walking into your bank and seeing a posting saying that "as of --date-- we have to increase service fees for blaa blaa, due to increased costs of operating" yet every year you hear on the financial news that the banks have yet again made a record profit that year...:idea:
The rich get richer....

jorjef 07-13-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 730407)
Ohhhh. I see. I think. Not sure how a company, {and I,m sure Shaw is not alone}, can charge some one price, another a different price and so on, for more or same packages.

I'm just guessing but I would think rather than cast in stone pricing schedule the reps are given a wider range to work with selling their services. I sell a commodity, and very few customers get the same price for the exact same item. I make a judgement call when I quote, some times I win sometimes I loose. I would think it would be the same for them...

mike31154 07-13-2012 08:02 PM

Hmm, IMO selling a commodity is somewhat different than providing a service such as cable, internet or phone. Commodities are sold under much more of a free market principle, no?

The problem with cable & phone companies is that they've been fortunate to operate somewhat of a monopoly with little or no competition. The CRTC gets involved & messes things up too with their restrictions. Things get even more complex when you get a commodity such as natural gas provided by another pseudo monopoly like the gas company. Whether you purchase the gas from a broker or from the gas company, you'll always be paying something to the gas company to maintain the infrastructure, pipelines etc. When I think pure commodity, I think more of natural resources or agricultural products such as gold, silver, cattle, grain... Much more open market driven than the pricing schedules offered by cable & phone companies. I could be totally out to lunch too though, just thinking out loud.

All I know is the cable & phone companies have the markets cornered/divyied up in certain regions of the country and they've had an easy ride for too long. Things are opening up & services like Netflix etc. are probably starting to instill some fear in the established outfits. They're going to get what they can while the getting's good, because the winds of change are on the way with respect to cable, internet & phone services. You can usually tell how well off a company is when you get the glossy, high quality mail advertising a service you probably already have from them, but they can't be bothered to check files of customers before they mail this crap out.

It's time to UNBUNDLE!!

MarkoD 07-13-2012 08:07 PM

Anyone on telus tv that wants a free trial for channels can pm me

Lampshade 07-13-2012 08:25 PM

I've been with Telus for 3 years now, overall, amazing service, better than I've seen from any company (Including telus mobility). What I've Noticed:
Telus internet is screaming fast, double what I've ever had with shaw in 4 different locations.
Telus Internet has a fast download AND upload, making gaming way faster. recently they're tuned it back it seems(in the past 1-2years), but still is far better than I've seen on shaw.
Shaw HD TV looks WAY better than Telus HD, the day someone told me this I was ruined, I compared a few different peoples shaw TV's, and set up a HD antenna to test my own, and damn, it does look snowy. Telus says they're working on this, which is good.
Telus forwards you email from "we where able to upload part XX of movie YY, please don't upload" Shaw doesn't bother with the emails. (I heard this from a friend that downloads....).
If you download over your cap on Shaw 3 months in a row you get bumped up to next pay level, telus has never cared how much LAfishguy/mrsaltwatertank I watch.


After all that... I'm cancelling TV once my contract is up, Theres another + for show, no contract. My PVR died last week and honestly, i didn't notice till this morning when my son wanted to watch his shows. So I had to go to netflix and select the show manually. what a painful ordeal....

jorjef 07-13-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mike31154 (Post 730789)

All I know is the cable & phone companies have the markets cornered/divyied up in certain regions of the country and they've had an easy ride for too long. Things are opening up & services like Netflix etc. are probably starting to instill some fear in the established outfits. They're going to get what they can while the getting's good, because the winds of change are on the way with respect to cable, internet & phone services.

That in a nut shell is why I think these reps have flexibility when quoting. A more open market has forced them to be competitive with the next guy.


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