Ok, got them all loaded, we even caught the purple tang. Should be interesting around here for a few weeks :neutral:

I think we need a pic of so many dudes in such a small space :grouphug:

+1

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I can post a pic as soon as I manage the NH3 spike I got overnight! This is going to be a long 3 weeks...

Brad, have you thought about using Fluval Zeo-carb, or something similar?
Even just some Seachem AmGuard?
I have both on hand for my QT, as well as an AmAlert.
And you know Prime will work during emergencies.

I've got prime, so squirted some in the tank, but I'm not sure how much to use. I'll pick up some AmGaurd as soon as I can get to a store.

and making more water.....

On my bottle of prime, it says 5ml for 50 gallons. That removes 1mg/L ammonia.

Great, thanks.

Funny, the website states the same, but my 1g size says 0.8mg/L
I'm sure it's not vital

Brad you should know that overdosing Prime can cause serious O2 depletion, so you should just use some tonight before you buy the AmGuard, or AmQuel or whatever you decide on/find

didn't know that. Thanks. I may have to reroute the sump off my frag system to the q tank so that I can run more water and a skimmer. I rinsed the foam in the aquaclear last night during the water change, so probably reduced the bacteria substantially. Guess I'm doing another WC tonight....

And because you're running a lower temp, I'm sure if you wanted to go a little crazy with the Prime tonight it will be OK.
I'd be inclined to do a water change and then monitor it every hour or 2 before bed.
Another 25-50% WC before late-to-bed wouldn't hurt either .... :wink:

Why don't you try running 2 foams in the Aquaclear and alternate rinsing. Plus some carbon and read about the Zeo-carb.
Now, here's a useless suggestion considering your time frame, but maybe you should put some biopellets in your Aquaclear and in conjunction start dosing Stability daily at twice the dose ( since you're going shopping anyway ).

Well, water probably won't mix before bed time, and I have to crash soon. I've added some prime, and also added about 20lbs of rock. And a power head aiming at the surface to keep O2 up....
I have 2 foam blocks in the filter, but got all OCD on them last night and squished out all the muck. Shoulda left it alone or done only one. right now I have about 40 pounds of rock and the 2 foam blocks, so the bacteria should recover soon enough, but the next few days will need lots of water :)

So you're up to what now, 40-50lbs of rock? That will help lots.
Please report back tomorrow and let us know what you are doing/adding.

BTW, Sunday is QT Picture day :mrgreen:

If the NH3 hasn't dropped by morning, I'll reroute the frag sump with skimmer to the fish tank. Right now, 40+ pounds of rock, 2 foam blocks in the large aquaclear, a large korallia across the surface and added 5ml of Prime. Before this NH3 was about 2.0ppm, so if it hasn't dropped by 6am, I'll connect the sump, which has about 60 or 70 gallons and a large skimmer.

I've got a biocube not being used if you want another holding tank. or you can qt that powder blue at my place :biggrin:

Thanks Jon. I've got an empty 50 here, but no established filtration. worst case, I can add the 90g sump to the system. But since I'm treating them, I'd prefer not running a skimmer or dosing an extra 70g of water :)

I have a yellow faced sleeper Goby and he is always moving my crushed coral around the tank, also spits stuff over my leathers and makes a mess. I was going to get rid of him but he keeps the bottom fresh and clean looking as well as trying to catch him would not be easy, so he wins. :smile:

Brad I have another big aquaclear just like the one your using if you want to use it. I don't think it has any sponges tho. Text me if you need it.

Brad stated he added 5ml of Prime to his 50g tank. If what I'm calculating is correct, it will not make any difference at all.

Is my math off ???

If 5ml of Prime in 50g of water removes 1mg/L, and there's 189L in a 50g ( give or take), doesn't this mean that you would need to add a whole lot of Prime (close to a litre of it) to remove that 1mg of Ammonia?

189 * 5 = 945ml of Prime

This tells me you would need to add almost a litre of Prime to remove just one mg of Ammonia in his 50g tank.

Am I missing something here, or is this why people overdose Prime?

Would someone show me how I am off here, or confirm my math?

I dont see why people have a problem with this. It's only temp. Also if the fish are showing no signs of infection or bad bacteria then no problem. If its long term them fine. It not like every one is going into certain lfs going you can't keep that fish on there because a 3 foot by 18 by 18 inches isn't big enough for that fish.
If your water is stable. And its only for short term. And they remain eating. Look healthy.
Then it's really Just keeping up keep.
For thoses of us in Calgary how about looking at the angel, orange shoulder tang, and clown tang at a certain local fish store on 16th.

I'm not justifying nor am I saying its wrong. In a few years it might be impossible to get any saltwater items.

Sorry for the bad grammar.
Also for the noted I have had a lot to drink tonight.
Looking forward to the plumbing I did hopefully it hold without leaking.

The question to be answered here was;
"is the math off on the Prime dose?"

Cheers to your plumbing holding up bud :drinking:

I've plumbed during beers when I shouldn't have :happy:

Thanks Shelley, but it's looking better. NH3 down to under 1.0ppm, and I'm going to connect it to the sump now.

I don't think anyone is having a problem with this, as it is a temp solution. Circumstances being that these fish were only available now due to a tank shut down, my schedule got pushed forward a bit. I've actually found everyone quite helpful, and even Naesco hasn't tried arresting me :)

ok, 5:30am and I've got the sump hooked up, an extra 10lbs of rock and an ER RS180 running for now. I'll let the skimmer run for the day and then turn it off to medicate the tank (assuming NH3 goes to 0).

Leaving for the day, NH3 sitting at 0.25ppm. Looks like it's going down.

1mg/L refers to concentration of NH4. Not dosage. So you don't need to time 189L. Actually since Brad has (had, since then he connects the QT to his sump) 50 G, he only needs to dose 5 ml to lower the whole tank of NH4 by 1mg/L (theoretically).

Just got home, tank is still sitting at 0.25ppm, so no increase over the last 12 hours. Good thing. I'll change some water later on, not sure there are any stores open tonight to find more prime. Fish all look fine though, so we'll see what the next 12 hours brings.

Brad just keep that skimmer going and don't have any lights and if you can cover the tank do it this will cause the fish to relax and be less stressed out. And they will forget about who is in the tank and don't feed so much. Let the slimmer do what it needs to do. And don't worry about what others think or say. Remember you are a mod and. An ban them. Good. Luck buds

Mike, I can't keep the skimmer going, I've got to medicate the tank and skimming will remove it. But so far, everyone is getting along and just came to the corner begging for food. They're all looking fine, so once NH3 drops to 0, I'll turn the skimmer off and medicate, changing water as needed.

Ya, I woke up thinking about my confusion.
Quite the brain fart on my part.

So as I approach adding the fish back to the display, what's everyone's suggestions on how many to add at a time?
5 good size tangs, 3 anthias, three clowns, one Emperor angel, 2 chromis, and a damsel (in a pear tree)..

I would add the chromis and damsel, wait a few days and add the clowns, wait a few days and add the anthias, then wait a week and add the rest. This is of course testing daily and assuming your tank is keeping up.

Skip the pear tree

Sounds like a plan!

Nutrient removal. Like mangroves, but bigger and you can eat pears later! :razz:

I would be more prone to adding them in a reverse order based on aggression and territorialism rather than size

so far they all get along in the Q tank, although with all the hiding spots, it's tough to observe them. and most are new to me, so I don't know their behaviours very well. At this point, I think I just have to worry about NH3 levels as I add them to the display.