I dont have a Q/T at the time ,however if its critical I could whip one up.

Much water testing is in order. A water change as well. How large of one ,I am not sure ,given contradicting information.

first of all to neutralize ammonia which is burning your fish gills and mucus, you could add some Seachem Prime until the bacterias population resume to a decent level.

Good thing your PH is not that high because the higher the PH and the more toxic ammonia is.

Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly

+1 agreed completely:)

+2 Good Luck with everything.

When reef wars said a large water change ,I was thinking along the lines of a 50% water change :wink:


Other then that ,shall do


Also I have some Kanaplex ,will that be alright for the anti-bacterial ??

Yes...I believe kanaplex is reef safe....but make sure first !
I know it is safe for marine tanks...but you'll have to double check on it's effects on corals and inverts.

Ya ,I checked the seachem site and they said that it should be safe for a reef...

Also I'm assuming it should go like this ??

Water Change
Add a little extra prime
Add my phos ban of choice

and test the water at a later point.



Also I've been thinking of adding an airstone as all the fish are beathing a bit heavy today ,would the be fesable ??

Don't add more Prime than the recommended dose. Just add it to the new water you mix up before the water change.

What kind of airation do you have in the tank now? Is there a lot of water flow ( powerheads) ?
If not...a lack of O2 and low gas exchange could be part of the problem.
An airstone won't hurt....but you will need a more permanent solution...such as additional powerheads if this is the case

I'm running a fluval 305 and a korilia 425.

And now an airstone as well.

What kind of skimmer are you running?

None.


Also wouldn't running carbon in the tank eliminate the point of adding Kanaplex ??

Correct....you don't want to run carbon while dosing with medications...but I would definitely start once you've finished the treatment.

What size is your tank?
Looks like a 55 from the pics.....might want to either add another powerhead, or change the existing circulation around to get better flow going.
Wait until you fix up with water changes, meds, etc and adjust flow once you see what happens

Only a 33 gallon :sad:


Also the female anthias does not look to hot ,here are some pictures from this morning.

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Looks like she's developing white spots...not good.
Can't tell for sure if it's ich or Velvet.....do you have a knowledgable LFS nearby you can take her to ?
Treating for parasites in your tank could mean death to all inverts and corals...but you may not have any choice at this point.
It also means not adding any more livestock for approx 6 months after all signs of it are gone.

O.k ,I just finished the water change.

During it I added about 2 tablespoons of GFO phosphate remover to the canister filter.

I'm now going to add the Kanaplex and mix the garlic into their food.

I shall do another water test tomorrow.

That fish is full of parasites. I don't think it will survive long without a proper treatment.

I don't think kanaplex is the way to go unless it cure parasites, which I doubt. Maybe you should try Paraguard instead but that would probably require that you isolate the invert first or put your fish in quarantine.

Sounds good.

I can pop the coral and snails into a different tank treatment.

I shall go buy some Paraguard tomorrow ,it sounds like the "cure all" fish medication.

It's not the fastest acting medication around but it is broad spectrum med so it will cure most bacterial infection and parasites. I know it work great for brooklynella and in few days fish are doing much better, but I never tried it for velvet.

Paraguard is great as a one hour dip when you get new fish.

Snazzy.

So for the one hour dip I'll assume that you mix it with tank water in a separate tank ,pop an airstone in there and let them sit for and hour ??

This morning they seem to be a bit better ,the chromis was bobbing around ,which he hasnt done for a while ,and the filefish is still swimming and looking well excluding her eye. Other the others look more or less the same...

No...you can't do the one hour dip now...too late for that. That process is only for new fish before introducing them into your tank. You now have what appears to be not just one, but several diseases in your tank...taking fish out, dipping them and returning them to your tank will do no good...because now the parasites and bacteria are in the tank - in your water, your rock and sand.
You are now going to have to treat the entire tank

Oh ,no ,I was asking about that for new fish in the future ,not the fish I have now.

I'm not that stupid :wink:

+1, too late for the one hour dip for now, but in the future, you simply fallow the directions on the bottle for the concentration and I don't even put an airstone in there. I usually acclimate the fish in the bag for temperature. then you can either drip with the tank water or put a little bit of tank water in the bag every 5 minutes. Just make sure you don't drop any of the bag water into your tank! Once the fish is acclimated, I do the one hour dip, then I remove it from the bag with my hands and put if in the tank. It is best to watch over the fish during that hour, just to make sure it's not too stressed.