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Aysha 03-13-2012 02:14 AM

Just the CB
the cromis just hide all the time now.
is he being bullied?

reefwars 03-13-2012 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 693033)
Just the CB
the cromis just hide all the time now.
is he being bullied?


its possible but chromis do like to hide in the rockwork when they are scared or want out of the open they could be still getting use to you.


what are you feeding them??? it would help very much to make sure that they are getting garlic in their food if you are feeding frozen or flake just soak before adding:)

keep stress down in the tank so watch the two and make sure they are getting along day and at night alot of stuff goes down during the night;)


the ich can be in the tank and the fish do not necessarily die, its just important to keep the fish alive and strong......basically swimming and eating:)

Aysha 03-13-2012 02:34 AM

they like to swim and they like to eat
what they eat:
the bits of green algae that grow on the rocks
new life spectrum marine (contains garlic)
their treats:
omega 1 freeze dried mysis shrimp
tetra micro crabs
seaweed

thank you for taking the time to help me get this sorted out.
just keep swimming swimming swimming......

reefwars 03-13-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 693048)
they like to swim and they like to eat
what they eat:
the bits of green algae that grow on the rocks
new life spectrum marine (contains garlic)
their treats:
omega 1 freeze dried mysis shrimp
tetra micro crabs
seaweed

thank you for taking the time to help me get this sorted out.
just keep swimming swimming swimming......



even with garlic in the nls pellets i would still buy some garlic extract and really soak it in:):) this will help they fight off the parasite.its also important not to stress them out.

Aysha 03-18-2012 12:06 AM

Everyone looks much much better.
I hooked up the other pump and they perked up immediately.
I also ordered the filter basket from intank because I find the stock setup pretty ineffective.
yay! thanks!

when I turned the other pump on I noticed there were pinky nail sized white shrimps popping up . What are these ? where did they come from? will my fish eat them :)

Cugio 03-18-2012 12:10 AM

Maybe they are Mysis shrimp.

Aysha 03-18-2012 12:38 AM

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Aysha 03-18-2012 04:23 AM

yeah fuzzy crap photo my 5D is in the shop. (don't drop an slr it makes bad things happen) anyway I'm wanting to turn my lighting to blue maybe the 36 Watt Actinic ? or blue LEDS but I think for the LEDs I would need the mod kit is this correct?

I'd like something like this
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6...7cdcb488_z.jpg

how do I set up lighting like that?

scubadawg 03-18-2012 05:01 AM

I know how you feel I dropped my D700 on the back side (viewfinder), in front of the Sydney Opera house, was still working but cannot manual focus, relied on auofocus, hoping it was OK, $600.00 repair bill.:sad::sad::sad:

It was a good thing, it happened on the 2nd last day of my trip.

Reefie 03-18-2012 05:29 AM

To just add more blue to your lighting, you can consider the 12" Ecoxotic Stunner Strip in 445nm Blue. I use 2 of them that run 24/7 to act as Moonlights and also to supplement the colour of my LED. Contact Martin from Modular LED, he is a sponsor on here. Should be about $50 or so for the Stunner and then $20 or so for the power adapter.

Aysha 03-18-2012 05:36 AM

and I can just swap out my stock lighting for those?

bignose 03-18-2012 05:42 AM

Make sure there is enough room for your mag cleaner to move freely between the rocks and your glass it will make maintenance less stressful. Glue down your frags with that big snail before they land in the sand.

Welcome to Canreef, this site has made my hobby a very good experience.

Aysha 03-18-2012 05:49 AM

I had that thought with the snail as well, however he passed away a week after I got him. I really should re arrange my rocks a little bit.

Aysha 03-19-2012 01:22 AM

I got some beautiful corals today I shall get pics up post haste.

Aysha 03-19-2012 03:25 AM

a fuzzy smartphone image
ive lost 2 camera chargers in a manner of days

Aysha 03-19-2012 03:27 AM

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helps when my attachments work

Aysha 03-21-2012 04:09 AM

Coral beauty was doing really well over the weekend he was eating and his colours were bright.

today it looks grim.
the poor fishes yellow areas are a pale cream colour his fins are torn and bloody. there is a film over his eyes. I did the best I could but I guess this guy wasn't meant to be. he's alive but I suspect he'll be gone by morning.
poor little buddy.
paramaters are still reading fine
because the ich outbreak happened 3 or 4 days after I brought him home and he was a new arrival the LFS suggested that the trip may have just been too much for him.
so it goes.

fishytime 03-21-2012 05:51 AM

sorry about your CB....the other symptoms dont sound like ick....I suppose they could be a result of stress from the ick.....you can have my CB if you wanna come get em (little coral nipping bugger):mrgreen:

Ginu 03-21-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 696165)
Coral beauty was doing really well over the weekend he was eating and his colours were bright.

today it looks grim.
the poor fishes yellow areas are a pale cream colour his fins are torn and bloody. there is a film over his eyes. I did the best I could but I guess this guy wasn't meant to be. he's alive but I suspect he'll be gone by morning.
poor little buddy.
paramaters are still reading fine
because the ich outbreak happened 3 or 4 days after I brought him home and he was a new arrival the LFS suggested that the trip may have just been too much for him.
so it goes.


That sounds more like marine velvet... Very similar to Ich in some ways
I would strongly recommend reading up on this disease as its quite brutal. I've never had it myself but if it's either Ich or marine velvet, I would recommend not addin anything to the tank for 6 weeks, (I can't remember) and during this this time I'd keep the tank as clean as possible and perhaps add a uv light to the mix; some people believe in uv lights some don't, but I don't think it hurts.

Once that cycle is complete and fish less I'd add one small cheap fish to see how it does... It's mean but safer than throwing away lots of $ for fish. I spoke to the owner of a small lfs and he was having a really tough time getting good and healthy marine fish.

Also pay close attention to the lfs as they are more than likely to have diseases in the tanks. Is the lfs reputable? Are the aquariums clean? Typically I pay close attention and watch the fish I like for a while. Sometimes I pay for fishy and have them hold it for a week if they are newly brought in.

I'm sorry to hear about the CB and hope the disease doesn't spread.

letsgofishin 03-21-2012 07:57 AM

[I'm sorry to hear about the CB and hope the disease doesn't spread.[/quote]
Sometimes I pay for fishy and have them hold it for a week if they are newly brought in


one of the girls & my LFS actually just recommended me doing this...this way I can make sure they are healthy and eating and if some thing happens during the week and he does'nt make it, I get store credit to buy a new fish

Aysha 03-21-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 696200)
sorry about your CB....the other symptoms dont sound like ick....I suppose they could be a result of stress from the ick.....you can have my CB if you wanna come get em (little coral nipping bugger):mrgreen:

that's very sweet of you but I will have to decline .I lost the poor bugger during the night. I want to hold off for a few weeks from adding more fish.
the corals are fine and the other inverts beautiful.
the nasty symptoms I described happened in 48 hours tops. he matched the description of ich before then.
the chromis is fine last I recall but he was hiding due to the CB bashing himself on the filter and powerhead like a well dying fish. breaks my heart to see them go.

I only go to places where the tanks are clean (these ones are on their own system) with hand caught fish (no spearing no cyanide that makes me shudder)

that is a good idea to pre buy my fish. I'll keep that in mind.

Reefie 03-21-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 695159)
and I can just swap out my stock lighting for those?

Regarding the Stunner LED Strips, they're mainly used for supplemental lighting and colour.

If you want more than that, an easy solution are the Ecoxotic Panorama PRO LED fixtures. You could easily double-side tape them inside the hood. They are water-proof, but I've always preferred to keep all my lighting inside the safety of the BioCube splashguard.

Sorry to hear about your CB, I just lost my Flame Angel, Purple Tang, and a couple others in my QT. Had and issue with the Heater. It wasn't calibrated properly and cooked all the fish.

Ginu 03-21-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefie (Post 696407)
Regarding the Stunner LED Strips, they're mainly used for supplemental lighting and colour.

If you want more than that, an easy solution are the Ecoxotic Panorama PRO LED fixtures. You could easily double-side tape them inside the hood. They are water-proof, but I've always preferred to keep all my lighting inside the safety of the BioCube splashguard.

Sorry to hear about your CB, I just lost my Flame Angel, Purple Tang, and a couple others in my QT. Had and issue with the Heater. It wasn't calibrated properly and cooked all the fish.


Hey Ken thanks for the frag, I'm curios why does everyone run a heater in their tanks? I've been monitoring the temp at night and it doesn't drop below 77 which I'm quite OK with as my chiller chills it down to 77 during the day. I have two heaters, however I have had a incident where the heater got stuck in the on position and cooked all the fish in my freshwater tank a few years back and since then I've been running heater-less without any casualties :)

Reefie 03-21-2012 09:49 PM

I'd recommend QT-ing all fish before putting them into your DT, 2 weeks would be a minimum.

I'm QT-ing for 2 weeks with Paraguard, and then 2 weeks without.

A friend just told me about the 3-3-3 rule of thumb. The first hurdle is 3 Days to get a fish settled and eating, 3 Weeks to make sure they don't have any diseases, and if they make it past 3 Months, they will live for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 696270)
that's very sweet of you but I will have to decline .I lost the poor bugger during the night. I want to hold off for a few weeks from adding more fish.
the corals are fine and the other inverts beautiful.
the nasty symptoms I described happened in 48 hours tops. he matched the description of ich before then.
the chromis is fine last I recall but he was hiding due to the CB bashing himself on the filter and powerhead like a well dying fish. breaks my heart to see them go.

I only go to places where the tanks are clean (these ones are on their own system) with hand caught fish (no spearing no cyanide that makes me shudder)

that is a good idea to pre buy my fish. I'll keep that in mind.


Bblinks 03-21-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginu (Post 696408)
Hey Ken thanks for the frag, I'm curios why does everyone run a heater in their tanks? I've been monitoring the temp at night and it doesn't drop below 77 which I'm quite OK with as my chiller chills it down to 77 during the day. I have two heaters, however I have had a incident where the heater got stuck in the on position and cooked all the fish in my freshwater tank a few years back and since then I've been running heater-less without any casualties :)

I don't use a heater in my tank, its stable at 26 degrees all day everyday but it does heat up a bit in the summer.

Ginu 03-21-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 696410)
I don't use a heater in my tank, its stable at 26 degrees all day everyday but it does heat up a bit in the summer.

It will be interesting in the summer with the MHI lights and Chiller running in the living-room which is close to the kitchen and my wife spends all her time in the kitchen :) I am expecting some angry wife comments coming my way this summer, however fish will be nice and cool behind the chiller :)

With that being said, I will get a AC unit as my wife is going through pregnancy this summer and the last thing i want her to endure is Vancouver summer heat :)

Reefie 03-21-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginu (Post 696408)
Hey Ken thanks for the frag, I'm curios why does everyone run a heater in their tanks? I've been monitoring the temp at night and it doesn't drop below 77 which I'm quite OK with as my chiller chills it down to 77 during the day. I have two heaters, however I have had a incident where the heater got stuck in the on position and cooked all the fish in my freshwater tank a few years back and since then I've been running heater-less without any casualties :)

A Heater is used to keep Temp swings from happening and to keep a constant temperature. A temperature swing of more than 2 degrees Fahrenheit can stress out the more sensitive fish. I use both the Chiller AND Heater to keep things more stable, although my place gets really hot in the Summer from all the windows.

You're welcome for the frag, under lots of light, the base goes neon green with purple-ish polyps. It's a pretty hardy and fast growing coral, soon enough you'll be fragging it. :biggrin:

Reefie 03-22-2012 12:28 AM

Aysha,

You can take a look at the thread below for the Panorama PRO's

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...896#post695896

Aysha 03-22-2012 02:31 AM

I looked at those last night. I think that is exactly what I am looking for :mrgreen:
I am sorry for the loss of your fishies. I cannot imagine it gets any easier with time.
Your rule of 3's I like it.

after looking at photos I must have mistaken the disease for ich due to a few white patches. sadly it looks like I was mistaken

Aysha 03-26-2012 04:53 AM

Steve had a sale over at RC he helped me get over the idea of no fish for 2 months by selling my a bunch of corals! my tank is empty but it is getting better looking!

I picked up a neat blue leather corals and what was supposed to be 2 mushroom heads but after I got it home it turned into about 8 and a few misc frags.
YAYYYYY!

He has been very helpful in finding out why my fish got sick. I know now where the ONLY place my fish will come from will be.:mrgreen:

Aysha 03-31-2012 11:11 PM

so I cant have/not buying anymore fish for the next few months.
so I decided to make all the alterations my tank needs now.
I replaced the pumps and the whole back end filter system (thanks inTank)
I also added another bunch of corals THANKS WAYNE!

Next month?
Panoramic pros. I'm already sick of bulbs and I haven't even had to buy new ones yet.

Reefie 03-31-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 699548)
so I cant have/not buying anymore fish for the next few months.
so I decided to make all the alterations my tank needs now.
I replaced the pumps and the whole back end filter system (thanks inTank)
I also added another bunch of corals THANKS WAYNE!

Next month?
Panoramic pros. I'm already sick of bulbs and I haven't even had to buy new ones yet.

Haha! I know EXACTLY what you mean, I yanked out the Coralife PC's about 2-3 months after I had the tank running.

I'm currently running 2 Vertex Illumilux Marino Bianco's 7K White/450nm Blue, 2 Panorama PRO 12K White/445nm Blue, and just added the Panorama PRO RGB. I added the RGB for more spectrum and growth.

I'll admit that they're pretty neat, you can dial in whatever colour you want out of them. Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Orange, Purple, Pink, etc.

I took an iPhone video of it fading through 7 colours. I use that during the day to get the full spectrum, and on Blue at night for moonlight.

http://youtu.be/4iJeARfe7Cc

Like I said in one of my previous posts, there are endless upgrades you can make with the BC29. :lol:

The ONE thing that I would recommend, if you have some extra $$$, is get an MP-10 ES. No need for the Wireless, save yourself the $50 for more coral or fish. :wink: It was one of the BEST purchases I've made for the BC29!

Another thing I'd also suggest is the Tunze 9002 Nano Skimmer. I went through 2 other skimmers before bucking up and buying the Tunze. I was trying to save money with the other 2, but in the end it cost me more.

I'm on Week #2 of my BC29 being fallow, luckily I loaded up on SPS to keep me entertained. I've got 4 fish in QT treated with Hypo at the moment. I ONLY have 8 more weeks to go on being fallow. Going 10 weeks just to be safe from Ich.

Aysha 03-31-2012 11:59 PM

Thanks for showing that to me. I cant decide between blue or magenta so maybe the RGB is just what I'm looking for.
I asked and I was told 2 pro lights and 2 60 watt adapters over in the other thread. Does that sound right?
turns out Modular LED is located in Red deer (1.5 hours from here) so I may just go in for a visit.

also what is a MP-10 ES?

Reefie 04-01-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 699564)
Thanks for showing that to me. I cant decide between blue or magenta so maybe the RGB is just what I'm looking for.
I asked and I was told 2 pro lights and 2 60 watt adapters over in the other thread. Does that sound right?
turns out Modular LED is located in Red deer (1.5 hours from here) so I may just go in for a visit.

also what is a MP-10 ES?

You will only need one 60W adapter, just get the 2-way splitter and you can run both. I would suggest getting the Dimmer Switch and use that with the 12K White/445nm Blue as they are REALLY bright. For the RGB, you will also need to get the RGB controller, it's really neat! It's the remote control that you can use up to 30 feet away.

I got mine from Martin at Modular also, super fast shipping!

The MP-10 ES is a controllable powerhead that has one side inside the tank, and the actual motor on the outside of the tank. It keeps the heat out of the tank.

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/wp...ater+Pump.html

Aysha 04-01-2012 12:29 AM

I looked at the controller,
as for the adapters thats good I only need one that makes more sense. I was going to pick up a dimmer too. The powerhead is more than I paid for the whole tank LOL it's nice but a bit too funky for what I'm looking at spending.

Reefie 04-01-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Aysha (Post 699583)
I looked at the controller,
as for the adapters thats good I only need one that makes more sense. I was going to pick up a dimmer too. The powerhead is more than I paid for the whole tank LOL it's nice but a bit too funky for what I'm looking at spending.

The one thing that I have learned about this addiction is that the money you save up front on cheaper equipment can and will cost you a lot more when you will be upgrading it later. However, to each and everyone's own.

A cheaper and reliable alternative to the MP-10 is the following:
Tunze 6015 Turbelle Nanostream
http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/tz...mp+-+6015.html

I had 2 of these running in my tank. I'm an SPS junkie, so I wanted a lot of flow. One will probably suffice for what you may be looking for.

Aysha 04-01-2012 12:59 AM

that's more what I'd be wanting.
you have a valid point however being new to the hobby I want to keep the spending "down" for the next few months until I can be sure I'm in it for the long haul. I mean I've spent hundreds and hundreds already but hundreds become thousands very quickly :wink: with very little return on investment if I decide it's not for me.
If I decide to upgrade? the 66 gallon RSM is going with it. Starter hobbyist with a starter set up.

Reefie 04-01-2012 01:16 AM

I'd also recommend this to create a bit of irregular flow on the return pipe of the main pump inside the tank.

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/hy...Deflector.html

Edmonton newbie 04-01-2012 01:23 AM

i do believe in the pay it forward thing so if you want to see how an mp10 would work in your tank i could LEND you the one from my wifes tank for a day or two to see if you like it before you go running out to spent that cash on one

Reefie 04-01-2012 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Edmonton newbie (Post 699613)
i do believe in the pay it forward thing so if you want to see how an mp10 would work in your tank i could LEND you the one from my wifes tank for a day or two to see if you like it before you go running out to spent that cash on one

Kudos to you! That is a GENEROUS offer! The only bad thing is that Aysha might fall in love with it and end up spending the extra $$$.


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