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i dunno why daniella has to attack the TC, he is basically just saying be careful when handling zoas or other corals. yes he could be wrong on his assumptions of his arm being numb cuz of the zoas, but all hes doing is warning us to becareful. thats the message is he trying to tell us. wear gloves and dont risk injuries . so i dont kno.....attacking someone that is trying to help us just makes u look like a XXXXXX
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brad what happened to rogue mod???? just noticed lol |
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Thanks for the chuckles people. Keep up the good work:splat::onfire::onfire::onfire:
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To be fair, there are LOTS of reports of palytoxin poisoning. Originally it was said that only one group of zoa's from one Hawaiian tide-pool contained this. SO the odd's of anyone one of us having it are slim to none. Now that people know about it... there's stuff on lots of aquarium sites saying that ALL zoas/paly's contain it. If this is also true, it'd be more common.
In general, the warning is fair, if you're feeling messed up, see a doctor. There's lots of weird crap in our tanks, some worse than others. |
Geeez, I did not attack anyone. Where do you see name calling? anything offensive? If there is then I apologize as I did not meant to make it a personnal attack. I am just tired of seing people jump to such conclusion without even knowing or verifying this before they post it.
It's not the part that he's saying wear gloves that bother me, that's a good advise, it's the blaming something on zoanthids that could be totally unreleated. Why does it bother me? because it is hard enough to get some good looking zoanthids in this country and if people start to spread fear like that then it might get even harder to find good zoanthids in the future. It has already hapened in a local store where I live so they don't sell zoanthids just because of these. BTW, there is a risk of being poisonned by palytoxin by eating seafood and that risk is probably greater than being poisoned by handling zoanthids while fragging. The source of palytoxin is a symbiotic dinoflagellate which lives in corals. And if anyone interested...a person even tried to commit suicide with palytoxin... If only he had knew that all he had to do was buy some zoanthids and eat them.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...es-affair.html Quote:
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Been there done that......a couple times
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=68234 http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74765 |
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murray i thought of you the second this was posted.....didnt we all have this conversation already lol :):) |
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Several times this topic seems to pop up every 6 months or so.... |
Nooowww, before you all chew my face off for saying this keep in mind I'm playing devils advocate here. In no way am I saying you should make a point of being "unsafe" while handling or caring for any of our marine creatures but everyone pointing the "palytoxin" finger really needs to stop doing so.
Daniella is simply explaining that as far as the scientific process goes you all blow, and quite frankly I have to agree with her. With out scientifically based proof (some sort of test identifying palytoxin as your culprit) your all jumping the gun and pointing at a compound that probably has little to do with whats going on. Yes Max experienced symptoms but there are hundreds of thousands of compounds in saltwater created by hundreds of thousands of different organisms, any one of these could be your culprit. Max could also have any number of physiological problems wrong with him in addition to the effects of this "mystery compound". So again, take from it what you will but with out definitive proof please stop pointing blindly at Palytoxin. She makes a really good point; Quote:
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levi raises a good point could be as simple as a bristle worm in the zoas/palys and an alergic reaction ......i guess the only thing i learned from this thread was to take precautions when working in your tank because theres alot we dont understand or alot of things we dont even know is in there:) |
I demand to see WHMIS sheets!!!
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I think the problem here is Daniella at times comes across too strong. Pushing her point to the point of being a bully. Daniella, I respect your opinions, and what you say does ring some valid points. I also know that you try to bring good and valuable information to this forum, thank you for this. So lets keep this thread to the topic and not a bashing party. If the thread creator thinks this warrants going to see a doctor, then they should. |
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Maybe if she answered in french people wouldn't get offended...... |
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god I hate bristleworms..... swollen/numb fingers FTL!!
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I think the original post has been respectively beaten to death...RIP!
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Well as for me and I'm sure a good portion of the people on the site not being bilingual it would be hard to be offended. "par levou francais" if so , maybe not so much.. |
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RIP thread:( |
over 50 replies in one afternoon for one thread...not bad....and man am i racking in the post padding on this one woo hoo :):)
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