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StirCrazy 08-08-2011 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 628383)
My sps have full polyp extension 24/7. The only time they retract is when I touch them or when I do water change and they are exposed to air.

I guess my tank must not be normal.

nope 12 years ago we rarley saw huge polyp extension during the day. for the last 22 years I have been diving hawaii, and other places same thing little or no polyp extension during the day lots at night. so to me that says that is normal.

a few papers I have read years ago linked extension to suspension feeding, others I have read link it to increasing surface area for light adsorption, so who realy knows......

I never worried about it much myself.. heath and color were what was important, never was extension during the day ever an indacator of health so I simply never worried about it. I had growth that was faster than norm, I had briliant colors and lots of extension at night when I did feed before bed. My brain used to be about 5-6" diamiter during the day, and a night would expand to ovewr 12" my acro's would look smooth during the day but almost like milli's during the night. millies well they always have good extension .... go figure that out :mrgreen:

my actual theory was it is a defence mechanisim, the ocean calms down at night, so maybe the intence wave action during the day was to much for the corals so they pulled in, at night when it is more calm they extend to catch food...

another question would be that thoes of you that have good polyp extension during the day... whats kinda flow do you have and do you vary it at night?

Steve

Aquattro 08-08-2011 04:48 AM

Steve, I guess my question comes about by the fact that for the first 3 or 4 months, every piece I had displayed full PE during the day. Now, 905 do not, with no obvious reason, other than the one water change I did with different salt (which affected my alk). Ok, somewhat obvious perhaps, but until I get my alk back to where it was, unproven hypothesis :)
So the tank has matured, the zeo system has had a chance to develop (or over develop with my dosing schedule), lighting is more than sufficient, feeding has been constant, no fish additions at the before/after point, so it's a bit of a mystery. Not so much a concern, but more a puzzle that I'm curious about.

StirCrazy 08-08-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 628395)
Not so much a concern, but more a puzzle that I'm curious about.

ya it would be nice to have a fish researcher do a 5 year study on it and get a difinitive answer :mrgreen:

you doing any dog stuff in the interior this year?

Steve

Aquattro 08-09-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 628539)
you doing any dog stuff in the interior this year?

Steve

not unless Cloverdale has moved closer to Kamloops :)

daniella3d 08-09-2011 02:11 AM

I deed, I don't have a lot of flow, nothing strong, maybe that's why I have great polyp extension any time.

A lot of people say that with SPS you need strong flow, but mine is very weak and I still have great growth, color and extension in my SPS. My alkalinity is always low, around 6.5.

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 628392)
another question would be that thoes of you that have good polyp extension during the day... whats kinda flow do you have and do you vary it at night?

Steve


Aquattro 08-09-2011 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 628585)
My alkalinity is always low, around 6.5.

I'm guessing this has some influence on PE. The one difference from before/after for me is my alk is higher. I saw a tank today with huge PE, alk was at 6...

lastlight 08-09-2011 04:32 AM

My PE is always great day or night.

Alk is always around 7.5 - 8

chris121277 08-09-2011 01:40 PM

Just tagin along here :popcorn:

StirCrazy 08-09-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 628600)
I'm guessing this has some influence on PE. The one difference from before/after for me is my alk is higher. I saw a tank today with huge PE, alk was at 6...

I always did keep my Alk a couple points higher than most people also...

Steve

shrimpchips 08-09-2011 04:18 PM

My PE is decent during the day, and crazy at night. Alk is low - 6 - 6.5 dKh, Ca 400 - 440, Mg 1350.

I noticed before that with an angelfish in the tank for a few weeks there was less PE on a few pieces it liked to nibble on, but other corals it left alone always had pretty good PE.

Aquattro 08-09-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 628717)
My PE is decent during the day, and crazy at night. Alk is low - 6 - 6.5 dKh

Hmm, starting to see a pattern. anyone else want to corroborate??

Aquattro 08-12-2011 03:19 AM

Update: As of today, I can see quite a bit more PE than previously. Wayne (rice reef) was just by with his macro lens and we can see PE on almost every piece.
Today my alk was 6dkh, so this follows along with my thinking high alk affects PE. However, I've also reduced my zeo dosing and have been adding a bit of potassium, so I can't be sure the exact reason, although my prime suspect is the alk...

daniella3d 03-29-2013 02:40 PM

Interesting conclusion. It make sense after reading all that thread. I never wonder why I had such good polyp extention. It was there and I thought it was the norm.

I have a red planet frag in direct current and there is bearely any polyp extention although it's growing and incrusting at the base. I think a strong direct current is not helping either.

Also sometimes I had my alkalinity go higher and it did not affect the extention. Once it was at 12 for a white until I calibrated my dosing pump properly. Now I keep it between 6.5 and 8.


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