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ALang 03-19-2011 07:38 PM
Ok, my 2 cents.
I've tried Acan Plus when I heard about some great things happening to others' acans/ LPS. As my tiny frags were not doing much but barely existing, I thought that I had nothing to lose. I bought and tried the stuff.
And all I can say is that, I have tried Reef Chili, but when I fed my acans, blastomussas, a tiny 3/4" frag of plate coral, and my other LPSs with Acan Plus, they all responded like nothing that I have seen before.
All my frags of barely living acans are now showing lots of fleshy polyps, my plate has grown to 1-1/2" and others are showing great colors and feeding responses, no matter what time of the day I fed them. And this is since after Christmas.
I didn't feed as often as Patrick did, either, just whenever I had the time and remembered to.
I don't really know what's in the bottle, just that it worked well for me. I have used lots of stuff in this hobby that I have had no idea what's in the bottle. Maybe that's wrong, but I think that everyone should have their own opinion as to how they'd like to manage their hobby.
And I also think that if everyone were to really read through what they have written down before they post for the world to see, we all could be saved from bad spelling and harsh-sounding comments.:sad:
It is my own decision to try something new, and this time, especially, I am very pleasantly surprised by the results. Great product, James. I will definitely continue to buy and use it.

Aquaria 03-19-2011 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paddyob (Post 599911)
Has anyone bought FM? I know locally they definitely do not make their line more affordable, or cheaper.

Acan Plus is well priced at $20. And I have not seen FM priced lower on any coral food locally. So if cost is the factor, then most people would choose AP.
Sry when I was in jl aquatics the other day I thought I saw the bottle of FM for under 20 but I coulda been looking at the wrong tag I apologize

paddyob 03-20-2011 01:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquaria (Post 599936)
Sry when I was in jl aquatics the other day I thought I saw the bottle of FM for under 20 but I coulda been looking at the wrong tag I apologize
Don't be sorry. I am in Edmonton. Prices could be different where you are.

hillegom 03-20-2011 01:33 AM
Because I see so many people saying good things about Acan + (ingredient list notwithstanding) I would try this product to make up my own mind. If the corals do better, like everyone says, I would buy it again because then I could say the product works in my tank
I don't see what all the hullabaloo is about. Acan + either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then nobody would buy it. If it works because it had magic in it, I would still buy it because it "works"
Just my 2cts

Ryan 03-23-2011 06:54 PM
after some digging around and phone calls I have found out an indgredient list must be listed on all pet foods.

So Acan Plus and Zeovit is actually not properly labeled and cannot legally be sold in Canada.

Refer to section 3.2 a)


http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...eng/01229.html

Howdy 03-23-2011 07:00 PM
Last time I looked I don't think Acan Plus was fish food. Just my two cents.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 600994)
after some digging around and phone calls I have found out an indgredient list must be listed on all pet foods.

So Acan Plus and Zeovit is actually not properly labeled and cannot legally be sold in Canada.

Refer to section 3.2 a)


http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...eng/01229.html

The Grizz 03-23-2011 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 600994)
after some digging around and phone calls I have found out an indgredient list must be listed on all pet foods.

So Acan Plus and Zeovit is actually not properly labeled and cannot legally be sold in Canada.

Refer to section 3.2 a)


http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...eng/01229.html
No saying you are wrong Ryan but do coral's fall under the category of being a pet? I would think that a pet would have to be a member of an animal species.

Just a question?

blacknife 03-23-2011 07:10 PM
even then not all ingredients are listed there is lots of crap in most dog/cat foods that are not listed in the ingredients unless you dig deep on the internet.
yummy things.. like preservatives that actually cause problems in your pets long term.

The Grizz 03-23-2011 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknife (Post 600999)
even then not all ingredients are listed there is lots of crap in most dog/cat foods that are not listed in the ingredients unless you dig deep on the internet.
yummy things.. like preservatives that actually cause problems in your pets long term.
Exactly, it took my wife 3 months and many phone call to some of the big name dog food brands to find a food that lists ALL there ingredients and have zero filler for our Huskies.

Coleus 03-23-2011 07:47 PM
ok where can i get a sampler so I can test this stuff out.

lorenz0 03-23-2011 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Grizz (Post 600998)
? I would think that a pet would have to be a member of an animal species.

Just a question?
Coral's are considered an animal (pending the type that is) mushrooms are still considered fungi and leathers as well if I remember correctly.

Still don't see the fuss in here, he honestly puts in all the effort to supply a food that in reality is to costly to produce. and it works to. Laurie had a good point with KFC, print off that document and storm into one demanding to see all the ingredients. If something has been proven to work, no point questioning it

Skimmerking 03-23-2011 08:26 PM
I'm just bothered by you Ryan you are making a stink about this Acan plus if you don't like it and don't agree with it then don't buy it. Personally I think that you are just causing a stink about it, because of whatever happened that your corals are not responding to it. Every type of corals and tanks are different.

give it a rest man. People on here totally disagree with me going over to Afghanistan. I don't really care what people are saying. People on here disagree that skimmer's LED's, pumps, Food whatever. I think that you got the point across and you have made your point. You don't like the food and it doesn't hold a list of materials that is used to make it. really does it matter.

Ryan 03-23-2011 08:39 PM
When I talked them I asked specifically about coral foods and they said it needs to be listed as well. All major ingredients must be listed.

Ryan 03-23-2011 08:41 PM
I think you need to reread my posts. I am quiet happy with it and still use it. I am just stating facts, if you dont like it you do t need to read it.

Xenia 03-23-2011 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 600994)
after some digging around and phone calls I have found out an indgredient list must be listed on all pet foods.

So Acan Plus and Zeovit is actually not properly labeled and cannot legally be sold in Canada.

Refer to section 3.2 a)


http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...eng/01229.html
This guide applies to cat and dog food only. It says following in the introduction:

"The Guide applies to all claims concerning pet food products included in labelling, advertising, promotional materials and all other forms of marketing in connection with the sale of these products. Please note, however, that the Guide is restricted to the labelling and advertising of prepackaged pet food for dogs and cats, and does not apply to pet treats or to food for other pets."

Then it says under that paragraph:

"This guide is not law."

Sad fact is that we still don't know what is in our dog and cat food, because even if it has an ingredient list on the packaging, the food still contains cheap ingredients from China and I don't think they will declare the traces of melamine in it.

We can not even be sure that there is no crap in the food we consume everyday. Well, actually I do know it is overpriced garbage that is offered to us consumers, in a fancy box and at a premium price. Big Companies have a whole team of lawyers who are professionals in concealing undesirable facts and getting around laws and regulations, of course a well-sized marketing budget is set aside to make the garbage palatable to the consumer.

I really have to keep that in mind everytime I go to a large chain grocery store in a hurry instead of trying to make it to a local farmer's market or butcher's shop.

Skimmerking 03-23-2011 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 601025)
I think you need to reread my posts. I am quiet happy with it and still use it. I am just stating facts, if you dont like it you do t need to read it.
I have reread your posts you are bitching cause there isn't a list of ingredients. then dont worry about it again if its bothering you then don't buy it.

its friggin coral food OMG get over it man. I just can't believe that you are on this don't put it in your tank then you are the only prson who is havng a problem with it.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Skimmerking 03-23-2011 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 599785)
Cant we all just get along.

I use your product in my tank and have seen great results with it. I have used Fauna Marin and seen the same results as well. Both good products and its nice to see it locally made.

The problem I have with your write up is this. In one breath you say your not in it for the money.
"My personal goal is, and always will be, to make the highest quality food to
promote the greatest amount of growth and just have healthy beautiful corals
PERIOD. I believe the growth and size of my corals speak for themselves."

Yet in another breath you complain about another company trying to copy your product. Of course its going to happen. You think Mr. Ford didnt see it coming with the automobile?

Personally I enjoy sharing information with other hobbyists whether they be someones private tank or major company. It only benefits the hobby when people share their experience, what works for them, what doesnt and so on. Its only when people try to hide what has been working from everyone else that this hobby with fall. Unfortunately I am seeing more and more of it as time goes on. I am not saying go hand your recipe paper out to Fauna or any other company, you have already done that by make your product available to the public.

IMO you should be proud a big company like Fauna Marin sees you as such a big threat they need to try to use your product to sell theirs. Acan Plus has seen such great results with just word of mouth along with posts here from buyers. Why not just enjoy your success instead of complaining?

Not to mention a little competition keeps businesses honest. Put out a good product for a good price and you will reap the rewards. I am sure you know this already with Acan Plus.

Now if this is a shot at someone or someones company maybe you need to take your drama off canreef. We have seen enough of it in the past year to get our fill.
To me you need from this post you are stating that you are unhapy with the Acan plus and you are just bitching end of story.

the Problem I have with your write up is >>>>>>>>>>

I don't think people care you have a problem. if you have a problem with his food ingredients then take it to a PM .. you my friend are the drama in this post.

WOW

Ross 03-23-2011 11:06 PM
I'm guessing the ingrediant list is simple...
http://theflickcast.com/wp-content/u...n-simpsons.gif

Seriously though if it works great then use it.
People still eat hot dogs and we know whats in them.


Ingrediant list or not, they seem to like it and grow well as a result.
I for one am going to buy ACAN+ as long as JMES keeps making it.
He may well decide to stop and then where does that leave us?

Ryan 03-23-2011 11:08 PM
Maybe you should go through the thread again and quote the posts saying how much I like it.

I know your just trying to defend your little buddy and I will say it again for you because it seems to take you a while to catch on. I am not attacking James or the product.

Bblinks 03-23-2011 11:27 PM
Ok, where can I get my hands on acan plus. :mrgreen: I wanna try it out for myself. Bring it on.

fishytime 03-23-2011 11:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 601054)
Ok, where can I get my hands on acan plus. :mrgreen: I wanna try it out for myself. Bring it on.
Red Coral Online could probably hook you up:biggrin:

Bblinks 03-23-2011 11:51 PM
Thanks fishytime, I am on it.
:mrgreen:
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 601059)
Red Coral Online could probably hook you up:biggrin:

Zoaelite 03-23-2011 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lorenz0 (Post 601014)
Coral's are considered an animal (pending the type that is) mushrooms are still considered fungi and leathers as well if I remember correctly.

Still don't see the fuss in here, he honestly puts in all the effort to supply a food that in reality is to costly to produce. and it works to. Laurie had a good point with KFC, print off that document and storm into one demanding to see all the ingredients. If something has been proven to work, no point questioning it
:neutral: There is no soft coral that is considered a fungi, your mixing up the family name with a kingdom name.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Cnidaria
Class: Anthozoa
Order: Scleractinia
Suborder: Fungiina
Family: Fungiidae

Fungi have there own kingdom in the new "3 domain" classification of species.
Domain: Eukaryota
(unranked): Opisthokonta
Kingdom: Fungi

Silly Laurier... Shrooms are for kids!!:razz:.

I'm +1 with Ryan here, again I personally have used Acan+ with good results. All I'm saying is James is making some pretty large claims not only about his food but his competitors actions, claims on the internet have to be backed up... Haha I just burst out laughing on that one. Well no they don't have to be backed up but you can't honestly expect me to purchase your food after you say there's zero fillers and it's the BEST but no one can know the ingredients because someone is going to steal it.

fishytime 03-24-2011 12:14 AM
Ok first of all..... the mans name is Jason, not James.......

and second, Levi...have you ever used any zeo products?.....probably widely considered to be the best additives for your reef...... and no ingredients list......the proof is in the pudding..... just look at the mans corals....have you ever seen a Duncan that looks like a torch?..... http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69638 .......scroll down.......:wink:

Zoaelite 03-24-2011 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 601066)
Ok first of all..... the mans name is Jason, not James.......

and second, Levi...have you ever used any zeo products?.....probably widely considered to be the best additives for your reef...... and no ingredients list......the proof is in the pudding..... just look at the mans corals....have you ever seen a Duncan that looks like a torch?..... http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69638 .......scroll down.......:wink:
My apologies for some reason I keep mixing up peoples names, and again I know his product works as I have personally used it. I'm taking the lazy approach on my reef as of late, no zeovit, no fancy chemicals, no acan plus and in my opinion there has been no difference.

hillegom 03-24-2011 12:51 AM
Well, I would still like to try it.
Anyone here in BC carry it? Specifically lower mainland?

Ryan 03-24-2011 01:16 AM
Red coral has the exclusive on it and even though red coral is the distributor there is a good chance no saltwater specialty store would buy products from a competiting store.

Bblinks 03-24-2011 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hillegom (Post 601084)
Well, I would still like to try it.
Anyone here in BC carry it? Specifically lower mainland?
I just priced it out, it cost 20 for the acan plus but shipping is around 15, I am not sure if I can justify spending almost as much on shipping as it would cost for the product.

paddyob 03-24-2011 01:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 601088)
Red coral has the exclusive on it and even though red coral is the distributor there is a good chance no saltwater specialty store would buy products from a competiting store.
Agreed. I feel this will limit the distribution. If you really want to make it fly, you need to distribute it yourself.

Red Coral has a good thing going for themselves.

The Grizz 03-24-2011 01:47 AM
Quote from Bblinks:

I just priced it out, it cost 20 for the acan plus but shipping is around 15, I am not sure if I can justify spending almost as much on shipping as it would cost for the product. End Quote



Just order a bunch of corals from Red Coral Online store and have them put it in the box as well.:biggrin:

fishytime 03-24-2011 01:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Grizz (Post 601099)
Just order a bunch of corals from Red Coral Online store and have them put it in the box as well.:biggrin:
Now there's someone who's thinking!!!:lol::wink:

Coleus 03-24-2011 02:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 601077)
My apologies for some reason I keep mixing up peoples names, and again I know his product works as I have personally used it. I'm taking the lazy approach on my reef as of late, no zeovit, no fancy chemicals, no acan plus and in my opinion there has been no difference.
I have to disagree, i have seen the same coral in two of top tanks on canreef and one tank has a much nicer color because of zeovit.

Sure, you don't have to feed your coral and they are still doing ok, but if you want it to grow fast and have nicer color, you need supplement feed.

It is all to a personal reference.

If Acan plus can make my duncan extend its tentacles like a torch then all koodos to Jason and I don't give a crap what is in there. :-)

Skimmerking 03-24-2011 02:48 AM
not a problem Ryan i wil take this to a PM with you.

Skimmerking 03-24-2011 02:55 AM
I was going to take this to a pm, but why:crazy:

lorenz0 03-24-2011 03:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 601064)

Silly Laurier... Shrooms are for kids!!:razz:.
the ones in a baggy help me see the world better :mrgreen: .... speaking of mushrooms, where did that baggy go

but thanks, always fun to learn something new every day

Bblinks 03-24-2011 04:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hillegom (Post 601084)
Well, I would still like to try it.
Anyone here in BC carry it? Specifically lower mainland?
I just priced it out, it cost 20 for the acan plus but shipping is around 15, I am not sure if I can justify spending almost as much on shipping as to the actual price of the product.

Cranky When Wet 03-24-2011 04:19 AM
+1000 Acan Plus
 
+1000 Acan Plus

Dear Jason,

I'd love to see you patent the pending, 13 ingredient, formula and urge you to consider ramifications of exclusivity... Patents are quite expensive but the process doesn't require the entire cost to be paid immediately. And yes, marketing costs money but I truly believe in your product. Partnerships have benefits but they can be limiting if not total train wrecks. I know you are not doing it for the money now; but, there is serious potential here for you.

Keep up the great work and know you are appreciated!

I. Horvath aka Bunny

p.s. One trade show in the right country may be a huge start.....

RedCoralOnlineStore 03-24-2011 04:21 AM
You are correct on the shipping, it is pricey for one bottle...Canada Post...wish I could get it to you cheaper as I have had numerous emails on Acan Plus with shipping being our biggest obstacle. Keep in mind that I could actually ship 10 bottles for that $15 shipping. If there are a few of you in the same area I suggest going together on it to cut the cost. :wink:

H2o2 03-24-2011 03:36 PM
shelf live
 
Maybe i missed it some where but what is the shelf live of Acan+ cause i am only home every 2 weeks to feed it for a week.
Thanks

hillegom 03-24-2011 04:10 PM
I would be in for a group buy.
+1 How long is shelf life? Refrigeration required?
Thanks


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