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All good points, and you hit the nail directly on the head.. the world has become an uber safety nightmare. I had a chuckle when you mentioned the older house basement windows, that unless you are "Elasto" man no one would ever fit through. If your wife is anything like mine best to get her "stamp" of approval as a future bedroom for Jr. lol
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Buying the extra land would be ideal I think. Even with the added costs it probably wouldn't cost much more than removing the windows and possibly installing new ones. The house next door is actually still owned by Douglas Homes which my Realtor just happens to work for so it might be pretty easy to get permission. The permit agency is permit pro. What other options would I have? Permit Pro didn't mention anything other than removing the windows. |
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This link would give you an idea of how the sprinklered protected glazing works. http://www.municipalaffairs.gov.ab.c...r/06BCV010.pdf
You may want to talk to Permit Pro to see if that would be accepted as an option, it might be as simple as adding 1 or 2 heads per window. If there is enough water pressure etc. We usually like dealing with Superior when can, though permit pro is another we work with frequently. But since it is permit pro, there are no options that way. Getting talking with permit pro about other options may be the best way. Shoot me a pm tomorrow when I am at the office to remind me to look in the code to see if I can find some things out. Is it a walk-out basement as well?? if it is that may help with having bedrooms with no windows. |
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Thanks for the info I will contact permit pro and ask for other options. |
Hope some of my info will help you out. Its always hard when somebody screws up.
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The realtor don't know what they are talking about, it does happen, maybe not there, but it should be able to be done.
Adding one layer of 5/8" type 'x' Gypsum is not a big deal, in fact you might have to only use 1/2' Type 'C'. Though I would keep persuing with buying the land to start with. You would think the bank, realtors, county would be doing anything they can to get the house sold, esp with the problems it has. |
Yeah I'm going to look into it more.
While adding another layer of Gypsum doesn't sound like much it's just one more thing we would have to add to a growing list. The upstairs drywall is complete and painted so going backwards again isn't ideal. The living room also has a gas fireplace on that wall which is all built in with drywall so going around that area alone will be significant. The proposed conditions from Wheatland for the variance are exactly as follows: Quote:
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buying the land will be much easier, that is for sure.
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in this case I think I would be talking to the builder of the other house and see if they are intrested on working something out with you. If they are willing, then it is time to get the lawyers involved.
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if they are still in that phase the 300.00 buck survay cost is probably no problem for the developer/agents to adsorb. Steve |
Actually after getting more information it turns out it's the roof which extends out too far, the distance between the actual foundations isn't a problem. According to the actual listing agent many houses in the community had the same problem but eventually they were passed without the need for modifications. He assured me that it will work out to my favor, just takes time.
I'm a little frustrated with all the misinformation and different stories so for now I'm just going to sit back and let them figure it out. I got two realtors and a lawyer working on it so if they want to get paid they have to make it work so I'm leaving it up to them. If it works out great, if not oh well. |
I would ask for a copy of the real property report and review it yourself. if the roof is a little too far it should not effect the windows in any way.
I did some code looking today and it the wall was less than that 1.2m no windows are allowed at all. So you would have to the extra land or a protected opening. |
Yeah I wish I could get a copy of the "real" report but it seems unreachable since I don't actually own the house. All I've managed to get is a few different stories and some copies of a few email correspondents between Permit Pro and Wheatland. I have a copy of the non-approved RPR but it doesn't actually state what the problem is, the dimensions on the RPR are listed as 1.19m and 1.15m but it's not clear if these dimensions are from the foundation or roof. If the problem is the roof I don't understand why removing the windows is the recommended solution.
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I'd be asking for it for the sake of principle.
When our neighbours bought their home they were encroaching on our property (their shed, fence, deck, hot tub) and we went through the lawyer circus as they wanted us to sign an encroachment agreeement AND sell them the strip of land they're stuff is on. Long story short their lawyer was a douche and we said no more, refused to sign anything, and said we want their stuff off of our property. The reason we didn't sell to them the 5" strip that our neighbours needed was because they sent their cranky lawyer over first rather then coming to talk to us directly. Those same neighbours are trying to sell their house right now with little success because of this issue. Save all that stuff you've gotten so far because this may sort itself out now, but when you go to sell it may pop back up. |
So I spoke with the owner of the property next door and he's willing to make a deal for 3" of dirt. Not sure what he wants for it yet but I'm sure it won't be cheap.
I also have to resurvey both properties to make sure a boundary adjustment will work before we do anything more. Then I need to evolve the county which will also apparently involve fees. Next get everything in writing and involve a lawyer $$. Then resurvey both properties again with the new adjustments and finally have the new surveys approved by the county. This isn't going to be much cheaper than the alternative but the end result will be way better. I just hope it all works out, the offer expires on the 14th and another buyer is waiting on the side lines so hopefully I can get most of this organized before then so I'm positive it'll work out. |
This sounds like the best option for you though. I hope your new neighbour will let it go for a reasonable price.
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Yeah so the guy wants $10,000 for 3" from his 7 foot side yard. Some people are just dinks.
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If things do work out in your favor I don't envy you having to live beside that guy! The neightbor behind me is a dick, so I know what it can be like.
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I think I'm going to call the owner of the actual community, from what I've heard the guy is awesome to deal with and is trying to promote a friendly and social environment. I don't think he'll be too thrilled one of his builders is trying to screw one of his potential new residents. |
try to low ball him, says 500 and see what he reacts. I think he just throws that number out to test the water.
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What a douche. When my neighbor had his fence on my property I granted him the easement and didn't charge him a dime. I felt bad the city forced him to pay to resurvey it in the first place.
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