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Cut back on the calcium reactor.
This is why I am such a fan of balling as you have exact control over each element. If one is too high you simply cut back the ML being dosed. |
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Ok so cut back on your dosing ;)
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week 10 review
Its water change and dosing day, however due to Canada Posts incredibly inept service there wont be any dosing this week. I will dose as soon as it comes in.
Parameters this week are : SG 1.025 ALK:11 MAG:1100 CAL:410 NIT:4 PHOS:0 I have'nt dosed anything all week in a effort to try to get my alk to come down but its kind of tough with using IO salt for WC. I have been dosing Mag all day and now have the Mag back up to 1350. Color is definatly coming back in some of the corals that had recently faded and the new ones I have added all look good with good PE (horn coral) and the new clams seem to be doing fine. The corals that had their pollyps bail are now growing new corralite structures and have small pollyps. Sure makes for some interesting growth patterns. |
Week 11 review
Ok so there has been a bit of a change up with the new formula Prodibio and the dosing amounts. I had recieved my next batch of suppliments and they are the new and improved formula. The dosing has changed from 1 ampoule of each additive per week to 3 ampoules/15 days as per the manufacturers directions. The tank looks pretty good and the corals are still looking slightly better each week and PE may finally be improving :biggrin: but i think this new dosage will push the tank over the hump that we have come up against with the nitrates.
So this week it was a WC and tests as usual with all the parameters the same as last week except the Alk which i am bringing down slowly through reduced Kalkwasser dosing. I am dosing 2 sets of suppliments this week to make up for the missed ones last week when I dosed 1 set instead of 3. Next week it will be the full 3 sets as per the Manufacturers directions of 1 set/50G. |
week 12 update
10% WC and dosing of 3 full sets of Ampoules minus the reef booster.
Parameters this week CAL:430 ALK:9 MAG:1335 PHOS:.04 NIT:4 Not really sure whats up with the phos/nitrate readings being up other than while I was away my pellets partially plugged up and werent tumbling correctly and I wasnt able to do my tests before the fish were fed today. I will redo those 2 tests tomorrow morning before feeding time. After being away for a week and seeing the corals when I got home I really noticed some colour changes in some of them. A lot of the colours are getting richer and my pocilliopora looks fabulous. Still no great improvements in the pollyp dept. tho. They are there but still no extension to speak of. |
week 13
WC day today. Nothing due to be dosed this week, but next week I am due for a full set.
Heres this weeks numbers: Cal:450 Alk:8.5 (new Elos kit) Mag:1320 Nitrate:5 Phos:.05 Havnt really noticed anything new in the tank this week but colours are slowly improving still. I added a ton of new flow this week in the form of 2 Korilia Evo 14's on a wave program and the Seio 620 on the FrankenSwirler so we will see if that does anything. I had to do a couple of extra feedings this week because I added a couple of new fish and this probably caused the slight increase in Nit/Phos. |
Update
I was due to finish my review of the Prodibio product however I was not happy with the results thus far. The results were there just nothing that made you kinda go wow or anything. I think most of the problem was the first half of the review was with the older formula and a reduced dosing and also not dosing any of the Reef Booster. It wasn't until i got the new improved formula and followed the recommended dosing for the final month that i was starting to see any great changes. My nitrate and phosphate numbers were still above 0 but i was starting to see definite changes and improvements in both the coral colors and PE. I managed to talk Michael from Aqua Digital into extending the tests for another month to see if the improvements would continue. I am going to be dosing the BioClean kit which is a stripped down version of the Reef kit as it only contains the Bioptim and BioDigest ampules. I will be adding to this the Reef Booster ampules that I had left over from the previous kits. I will update again in 2 weeks when it is time to dose again.
Tank parameters today were: Cal-400 Alk-8 Mag-1200 Phos-.04 Nitrate-5 |
I have been working through a reef kit as well and feel the results about the same. I want to continue with the digest and biotipim. i have not been using the reef booster the last few weeks as it seems to overload and clog out my skimmer for a day or two. not sure if the batch i have is new or old formula or even what the difference is i guess ill have to re-read your thread when i have time later.
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Yes the reef booster definitely knocks the skimmer for a crap. Not able to form a foam column and micro bubbles out the wazoo.
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nov 22 update
Added my last set of dosages today and did a 15% WC.
Parameters this week are: CAL-430 ALK-7.5 MAG-1335 NIT-2.5 PHOS-.09 No great changes but still noticing gradual color changes in some of the corals. PE is still minimal. I really hate dosing the reef booster as it really plays havoc with the skimmer. Skimmer wont produce anything for 2 days other than a TON of micro bubbles. |
its funny that you have problems with the skimmer with the reef booster. I usually just shut my skimmer off for a couple hours after doing a dosing set, and it is usually good after that (Vertex IN-100)
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This means the system is not taking it all up, in this case you can dose the nano size vials.
If booster is left in the system the corals have had enough of a feed, bit like us if we order that 20 oz T bone but knew an 8oz sirloin was enough ;) If you also leave the skmmer running while doing the booster dosing this can play havoc as you coat the insides with neat Omega 3. Hope that helps |
Yes I usually leave my skimmer shut down for 12 hours or so after dosing the booster.
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Final analysis
So its been an interesting couple of months working with this stuff and noticing changes in the corals. Firstly let me say there initally were 2 types of coral in my tank, the ones that were screwed and the ones that were relatively normal. The screwed ones (all the Millis and Acro's with no pollyps) are still screwed however i believe that these corals were permanently and irreversibly damaged by what ever caused the condition in the first place. A lot of these corals have gone through color morphs and a serious case of zits (large water blisters in the underlying tissue) and some very odd growth patterns. Some even to the point as to be even slightly grotesque. I have been conversing with Bob Fenner on these issues and perhaps the only solution may be to simply remove the corals. They may never recover. Now onto the good stuff. The corals that were normal to start with now look fabulous. Colours, Growth, PE all look great. My algae that grows on the sand bed and glass were eliminated to the point that i was cleaning the glass less than once per week. Although i never did reach ULNS status on the tank the additives did however get me quite close and i think it is probably very difficult to achieve anyhow when you are dealing with a relatively deep sand bed, old rock and high bio-load. Also in my conversations with Bob Fenner he was not really a proponent of ULNS systems anyhow stating that phosphate levels of 0 were not desireable where coral growth is concerned, but that reasonably low levels were more desirable as corals need the Phos. for growth. The product was easy to dose however the dosing instructions were somewhat vague in the beginning. I am already starting to notice a change for the worse in the tank (algae coming back) now that I no longer am dosing. I would definitely recommend this product to anyone who is looking to improve their tank, however it is relatively expensive to run for a larger system, but may be cheaper than some of the other systems out there say like Zeo. Finally i would like to thank Micheal from AquaDigital for the opportunity to do this review and the advise along the way. |
Great review.
Thanks, Poontang. Mitch |
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I think this little critter might be your polyp extension problem. I suspect the very slight increase in noticing polyps recently might be due to the accelerated growth or the improved health of your corals... and so they can 'catch up' with it... but Clown gobies EAT SPS polyps. I am wondering if anyone else can chime in about this? I have personally kept a clown goby and from purchase time to 2 weeks later, I had 6 SPS colonies without polyps, so I promptly removed him and polyps came back. Just thought I would throw this in there. I have not read the full thread yet, just got to this piture and scanned through the rest to see if your polyps increased... but great review! Thanks & Cheers, Chris |
I have never seen him eat any polyps and suspect that he is not the cause. The colony that he lives in is the healthyest colony that i have and it it growing quite well. Some of the colonies that are doing the worst are ones that he never seems to be interested in. I have recently added a acro frag to the tank and it seems to be doing fine and I am planning to try a Mlli frag soon to see what the results with it are. I am almost starting to wonder if whatever event has caused all of this is over however the affected corals were damaged beyond recovery. I actually miss using this product, my algae has increased quite noticibly.
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Abcha0s: Yeah, some of my SPS took awhile to recover. Poontang: Its just a thought... im not saying its the cause... but no one has really come up with anything so im just suggesting its possible. Thanks for doing the review... and why not pick it[the system] up again? Cheers, Chris |
Well I guess it wouldnt hurt to put him into my nano for a bit to see what happens.
I may start the system again after seeing the difference that it made to my tank but I found that it is relatively expensive. |
Did moving him to the nano tank help at all?
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