Ooohhhh you got a Norman too!!! My guy is doing great. I took him off of frozen foods to slow down his growth. He is as big as Griffie now! Norman is the fastest growing fish I have ever had.

I miss my big fatso... but my smaller fish sure don't. He looks awesome!

GOOD POINT! Well said! I do have digital thermometers ($15 a piece new) that I use for my tub transfers. I have found them to only last me a few months before they go, battery goes low, salt build up on the probe, or water splashes on them. However the gauge reads a bit inaccurate at times against the same brand thermometer but as long as its close. I used glass cause I used it against the others to see what is correct. Especially when the digitals read all different in the same water. It's time for a controller!

Dear Santa... Let me explain. Hehe

He's the largest puffer I've ever seen! I was surprised when I first seen him. I did get a orange spoted goby he hasn't been able to catch, although I wish he would. Goby is digging big holes under my rock and tumbling it. I can't even catch that lil bugger!! I was hoping Stewie could for me. :lol: I also put a lawn mover blenny and a damsel in there with no luck of him catching.

Hey did you ever see the video of the lady that did work out routines infront of her porcupine puffer and he followed. I gotta see if I can find that video. Its so neat! Next I will try work outs in front of Stewie to see if he responds. :lol: This time I doubt he's bored but a little under the weather. I know the silver lead balls he injested can't be good for him.

Good Old Griffie there what a nutbar. he should be CANREEF'S mascot.

Never saw the videos I bet Griffie would do it though. Just tie a shrimp to your waist, or dress in clown fish colours:lol: Griff would get the gobies by herding them into the corner where my overflows were. Generally they would go into the over flows and drown in the sump downstairs from the rushing water. Then he bit my Mandarin in half remember? He hunts a certain way but he never bothered my LMB. Get a clown fish, he will love you forever... he seems to really enjoy those! Just kidding! He does love those though. He also enjoys wrasses, and after my Mandarin finally died he was looking for him forever. They are supposed to be poisonous and it did not bother Griffie a bit to eat half of it. I doubt that a belly full of lead would bother him either...

Give him time for a hunting strategy for the gobie, he will figure it out since he has nothing but time.

Hahhaaaa!!! No kidding, the butthead.

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ROTF! :lol: :lol: :lol: That would be too funny! :laugh: He could do it! He loves posing for the camera! Hehe

I could just see myself now...dressed in a clown fish costume, doing aerobics in front of the tank. Derek and my neighbours would think I finally lost my NOODLE! :laugh: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You really must go to Elite and see George, Colby's cowfish... he is HUGE! Makes Norman look wee. I grew Norman out quickly so he could handle my powerheads in the tank. When he ate Griffie's puffer chow and frozen foods he grew very rapidly. I now have him on more vegan fare but he gets frozen food treats. I still need to come by and see your tank one of these days. I have had really bad Laryngitis and cannot even speak to my clients. I see the phone ringing and can't answer it.

We still need to get this Marine betta to you. I have done nothing with my tank at all, and have no new additions of any kind. If you want a fish with a lot of personality I would get a Sargassum trigger if I were you. My guy Dave is a hoot! Of course Bananaman is the the star of the show most times... I ahve never seen another Banana wrasse anywhere. If I could catch your foxface I would give her back to you. I grew her all out really nice as you know. The tangs don't even mess with her anymore. Chad the Regal Angel is thriving but he has pretty much murdered every soft coral I had in my tank, and my toadstool are chewed to heck now too. My tank is slowly turning into a FOWLR, but I am okay with that. My fish need to swimming space.

More pictures please!!!

Porcupine Puffer Aerobics video
 

I found one video showing puffer aerobics...although not that good quality. I have seen a better video years back that was very cool, but I can't find it now. Check this one out below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsvONE2Lkr4

Think Stewie (a.k.a Griffie) would go for this... with a clown suit on and some good background beats? :laugh:

Hahaaa that fish looks like he wants to eat her. Poor guy is begging like he is going to die :mrgreen:

Yes, you do! Your welcome anytime. Hope you get better soon. I can only imagine how frustrating that would be.

Yes, the Marine betta has got a home whenever. If it wasn't for the crazy weather and my crazy Christmas schedule I would drive out there to see you in Brad Creek. Which reminds me I still have to get the powerhead I left at your place. This weekend I'm off to Edmonton, then the week after off for Christmas in B.C. Wanna meet up in the New Year?


I've had the full reef over the years and then I get a really cool fish that eats corals and I end up saying screw it to the reef. There is different aspects of the hobby for sure. Although I admire the reef tanks, I'm more for the fish. I've done the reef already for many years. I like fishy time! It's a small sacrifices I make to have the wonderful and unique species.

Yes the New Year will work for me!!! That means I have an entire year to try to schedule something with you:wink: I was in the sump room last night and saw the power head sitting there, LOL!

I like the fish aspect much more as well. My Kenya trees won't grow because of Chad (the Regal angel) either, he has killed all my scolmias too... little bugger. My CBB is not being nice to the softies either! What can ya do? I tried fish whispering by holding up a feeding stick... it works but I get really sick of standing there looking like a nut job.:surprise:

I love my fish, they are so tame they swim in and out of my hands when I am feeding. That to me is the biggest reward in this hobby... they trust me. That is why when it come time for the betta to go home, YOU will be the person with the fish net:twised: The Bananaman even takes food out of my hand now, but we both scare each other since I am afraid he might clip me with those brutal teeth.

So get the clownfish suit and make a video...:mrgreen: You will be famous!I am so glad you took Griffie and love him for his "personality" and appreciate him like I did. I still can't believe he ate what he did... mind you it fit into his mouth. What a bone head.

Update?
 

How's Griffie these days?

Update..
 

Stewie has been under the weather. He's been laying on the sand bed alot. Today he tried to eat but seems to not be able to chew. It does look like he cut his mouth a bit, most likely on the glass. I noticed he has slowed down quite a bit. However I think he's on the road to recovery, since he did manage to swallow some food this morning and showed interest in it. Stewie's tough stuff. I'm sure he will recover.

All the rest of my fish, except for Stewie have been removed from the main tank & housed in another tank until I completely do a few water changes and find all the broken glass and silver lead beads. I was away this weekend, so I will try the magnet idea on the lead beads and dive in later this evening.

In all the time I have had him, he never once laid on the sand bed. I wish we could take him to the vet. Keep trying the peas to see if he might pass out whatever he might have ingested.

Also he LOVES big chunks of frozen mysis. Expensive treat but he would ALWAYS eat it. I would be hand feeding it to everyone else and he would come gulp it up out of my hands and I did not argue.

Keeping both fingers crossed.

Unfortunately lead is not attracted to a magnet. Only iron, (Fe) is. If those balls are lead, you will have to "find" them.

So has he eaten since the incident? If not you might want to consider my initial suggestion, it's not always easy to do the right thing but often very easy to do the wrong thing.

Leeanne mentions that he has been eating, but his mouth could have injuries...

Griffie is a very large puffer and I have no idea of how someone would put this fish down. I don't even want to think about it yet... he is a tough fish and I am sure he will be fine.

I didn't see mention of it actually eating only trying to eat. You'd put the fish down by freezing it. Glass isn't like snail shells, it's much harder and when it shatters it can be extremely sharp. A person could easily eat and pass hard shells and many other objects but glass not so much. I've also kept puffers and they certainly are tough but rarely loose there appetite. IMO chances aren't good if it still hasn't eaten.

Griffie has gone well over 10 days without eating when he ate snails he could not digest. If he was here with me, I would be hard pressed to put a giant puffer into a container and freeze him to death! This fish is more like a human being, or a house pet... to freeze him to death would be out of the question! I am sure I can speak for Leeanne on this as well. I know she will try the mysis when she sees to try it. If I did not live so far away, I would be down there like a shot.

I think it is too soon to do anything. I also recall being advised to feed him only once a week back when I got him. Give him a chance he will come through it, I know he will. I am very attached to this fish even though I don't have him anymore.

Lets all hope for the best.

It's all we can do...

freezing fish is a terrible idea if it actually came down to it clove oil is by far the best way to go, not that i want this to end up in that way

You might want to READ before you post. See
below for my past post:

The fish is recovering and eating... End of story.

:shocked: WOW! I'd hate to be your fish!! You are QUICK to freeze a fish. I think you better go and do some research on how painful freezing is to a fish and how slow of a time it kills them. FYI - It's not uncommon for scale-less fish (puffers, boxfish, lionfish, etc) to stop eating for various reasons, especially after an injury occures. I have had porcupine puffers in the past not eat for up to two weeks and recover fully. Im not looking for or asking for feedback on what I should do with my injured puffer. However; I appreciate all the kind comments and support regardings Stewie's (A.k.a Griffies) recovery.

This post had gotten way off topic.

Now back on topic...The post is about personal experiance of having a glass, floating thermometer break in a tank and if they suffered any ill effects? How they removed the silver beads? Or did they?



Thanks a bunch :mrgreen:

+ 1 :biggrin:

I did try the magnet idea and you are CORRECT! It didn't work! The lead balls will NOT stick to the magnet. I just removed all the fish, parts of the sand bed, the best I could, running carbon and began a series of water changes.

The manufacter of these thermometers say that the very bottom of the tubes are made up of small parts of metal balls (to help sink) and lead balls.


Thank you for posting! :mrgreen:

Well obviously I missed that he was eating which is why I simply asked if he was. I don't see the need for the attitude, perhaps you should take your own advice before over reacting and making blunt and insulting assumptions. If a fish is sick and won't recover the humane thing to do is put it down, there are many ways to do this. I'm not pushing for anyone to kill there fish and I only made the suggestion based on the fish not eating which I clearly stated.

When someone becomes attached to a fish I see the situation the same as any other house pet in which case you wouldn't let it suffer and starve to death before making the right decision. This is the only reason I mentioned this option as it was clear the fish had many people that cared for it. If that makes me a terrible fish keeper or person in your books so be it.

Good luck with the fish, glad to hear he's eating.

Thanks a bunch :mrgreen:

Good to hear:biggrin: My stewie is just a baby still but I changed my thermometer after reading this thread lol

I'm glad to hear the post sent out awareness about the thermometers possibly breaking in a tank or in a fish mouth. I'm glad to hear your baby Stewie is going strong. I still get a kick out of us naming our puffies the exact same name! :lol: Porcupine puffers are soOoOo very adorable when they are just babies. They are sooOo curious too. Keep an eye on your little one. :biggrin:

I would think it shouldn't matter what kind of animal it is... I would hope it wouldn't matter anyways. Im not saying freezing is right (it is infact inhumane), I just think the species or attachment level should be inconsequential in such a decision-making process.