Yes I will try to take one tonight. The spot is kind of like a dark spot mid way down his body. Its only on one side.

He has now stopped eating and has slightly clouded eyes. I feel so bad for him. I think the last time he ate was about three days ago. Too bad because he had such a great appetite. :(

I know there is ich in the tank right now too (Hippo tang has it) and I am amazed the CCB has been able to fight that off so far.

Don't know if there is much I can do for him at this point. He is still swimming around but looks rough. Every other fish looks great and acting normal (besides Hippo who is rubbing a bit). Same old story as EVERY CCB I have tried.

Great for a few months and then suddenly its health deteriorates rapidly for no apparent reason. Certainly do not think he is going to make it and will not try another one.

Quite hard to see in the pics but here ya go. Its the darker area behind his pectoral fin. It almost looks like a bruise? Its not on the other side. My first thought was the liver (cyanide caught fish often die if liver failure) but the liver is lower and in front of the pectoral fin. Kidney could be a possibility but I don't think so either.

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well the liver and the kidneys are in the same general region, the heart is infront of the pectoral fin. At least by any books that I've read.

I'd say either way you're looking at a rupture though. Sorry I couldn't be of more help

I think you meant the heart and liver are in the same general area and kidney is a bit further back?

But yeah, I think its some kind of rupture for sure.

woops. yeah. I guess I should stop typing and watching Dark Knight...

LOL...I actually watched that earlier today!

totally...
I had almost thought someone had stung him or something as he had been eating fine up until one day, randomly, he started to act as you have described.
Never really considered it might be cyanide...

Eye looks cloudy also....

Yeah I mentioned that earlier. Both eyes were cloudy for a day. They are back to normal today but he still will not eat. I think its just a matter of days now :(

This is turning out to be such a hard thing to watch. This poor little guy seems to be just slowly deteriorating. Its getting very hard to watch. He is paper thin, looks like organs have failed/ruptured and is getting some bruise like markings on his body (not internal). He just hangs up in a corner near the over flow and looks back at me when I go to the tank. I feel so guilty and wish there was something I could do for him.

Its always hard to loose fish but to watch them slowly die in a otherwise healthy tank is so tough. The tangs seem to not even notice him there anymore and will bump into him as they swim by...he just kind of floats away. So sad :(

That's rough, poor fish :sad:

Please euthanize the fish.

I actually had the clove oil out but he just ate and started swimming around so I am going to hold off for a few hours. I doubt hes getting better but after watching him swim again and eat, I don't want to take him out yet.

I've never been able to bring myself to do this, I always hope the fish will get better. Here's hoping that yours does.

I have done it in the past but its very, very hard. I got everything ready because I can't watch him like this much longer. But then when I fed the fish, he came out of the corner and ate. He was swimming around again too.

I still do not expect he will make it and will most likely have to euthanize him tonight but I guess I am just holding out...

brutal dude sorry to hear this. :cry:

Really tough morning...he still looked terrible even after eating yesterday and I had to make the decision to put him down. I have had to do this with sick fish before but this time seemed especially hard even though I have not had him long.

Its so frustrating to have yet another CBB thrive in the tank for a month and then suddenly deteriorate for no apparent reason. He was eating so well, swimming great, very friendly little guy. He fatten up so nicely in that time and then got that spot on his side which was clearly internal (looked like a rupture as I said earlier) and within a week he stops eating, gets paper thin, can't swim right and is gone :(

I am now 100% convinced that unless these fish can be caught properly, stores should not be bringing them in. Just in this thread alone there are enough experiences of sudden death to back that up. I have had it happen 4 times now and every time its the exact same. Mine have all come from the same LFS and I assume the same supplier...

I am going to see if I can somehow find a MAC certified CCB and try again. I am curious to see how well they fare. I have a feeling much better.

If anyone knows where I can find a MAC certified copperband, can you please let me know. I will gladly pay double or triple even :D These are one of my favorite fish and one of the reasons I got into saltwater from brackish years ago but I have never been able to find one that will survive more than a few months.

I guess I got lucky, I got my copperband (my first attempt at a copperband) back in march from oceanaquatics.
Wendell had told me they had just come in and he couldn't promise that they were eating but only 2 days after being shipping up to me he was settled in the quarantine tank eating mysis like a pig. 6 weeks later when I put him in the display he had to go through some pretty serious hazing from the achilles but he weathered it and is now the 2nd boldest fish in my tank

CANADA
Coast Mountain Aquatics
12871 Bathgate Way #19
Richmond, British Columbia V6V 1Y5 Canada
Tel. +1 604 244-0670
Email kyle@marinefish.ca

This is the only MAC certified imported for Canada listed on MACs website that I could find, maybe they could direct you to a retailer in your area who sells MAC certified fish.

Thats awesome, thanks!

Had the same thing happen to me... twice. CB is healthy, eating well, stops one day and is dead the next. It's quite frustrating. I figured when it happened the second time that it must be something else at work. Cyanide makes sense.

If the stats people are throwing out on here are true, then the collection of these fish is truly unacceptable and unsustainable. Does anyone have more information about the place in Richmond? All I know is that it is not retail.

No info yet but I will post when he gets back to me.

I would love to see a shop open up using them as a wholesaler...Hmmmm gives me some ideas :) My dad has been debating opening a business when he returns to Vancouver in a few years to retire and since he wouldn't need to make profit and easily has the start up cost....

I am going to have to talk to him ;)

He lives and often dives in the South Pacific and has been greatly bothered by the whole situation, so I bet he would be quite open to the idea of a shop selling MAC fishes.

hey GSP what store did you get your "bad" CBBs from? just wondering so i dont get one from there:)

i got one and it seemed nice and healthy, eating and everything my first one and a vary nice fish, but it had some flukes(i think)and when i put it into my QT i had a PH crash and it died, sucks sence if i left in the tank and did FW dip probebly would have lived, iam going to try another and most likley i will get it from the same place,

but this cyanide thing brings to mind other fish, like black/bue ribbon eels, and orange spot file fish, both i think after a bit of experiance and a lot reading dont seem to be the impossible fish people seem to say they are, it just comes down to the fish and i think the fact they must be caught with cyanide, it also makes think about other fish like eels and jawfish, that would seem to me to be vary hard to get out of there holes/rocks any other way but with cyanide yet they dont seem to have the dismel survival rate of the other fish??

Oh I don't want to name names ;) Thats not the point of this....

I think many of the LFS here in Vancouver get livestock from the same wholesalers and this store does not buy these fish knowing they have been caught with cyanide...well they must know by now I guess but...I do wish they would stop bringing them in but we all know they are not going to do that as they sell very well.