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Thanks for the great explanation Mike, well detailed like always makes you wonder on how some of the tank survive/ Any ways back to the review.
I have been gone away for a hockey tournament since last Sunday. so i didn't dose ULTRA MIN S. OR FEED THE CLAM FOOD. I did do a 10 gal water change on Sat before i left. 16 Jan. - Dosed Ultra bak starting 1ml as instructed - dosed ultra min s 1 ml to. My alk dropped from 8.0 to 6.1 dkh so i dripped from suppertime til the next morning to get it up again. here are the levels so far. lost one of my big clam crocea when i got home the fish were having a great day. CAL 495 ALK 6.1 TEMP 78.3 SALINITY 1.025 PO 4 0.01 heated test MAG 1350 Nitrates 10-15 PPM :cry: PH 8.2 JAN 17 dosed Ultra Bak 1ml dosed ultra min s 1ml fed small amount of clam food lowered lights on the tank 3 " took off Phosban due to running Ultra Bak since they both take out PO 4 Good new I'm seeing some pretty good PE from the new frags since they had 1 week to get used to the tnak since i was gone. today im going to snap some new pic when i get a chance to post before and after... Jan 18 ultra Bak 1 ml ultra Min s 1ml fed clam with ultra min s 1ml together if that 10 gal water change pictures to follow today i hope if i get soem time . |
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Jan 19th dosed ultra BAK 1ml and Ultra Min S 1ml Jan 20th Ultra Bak 1ml again Ultra Min S 1 ml small amount of Clam Food Added 4 large colonies of acro's red /Purple Humilis Deep water acro Tri color baby blue and white. acro Purple Acro tested PO 4 after 5 days of dosing Ultra BAK at 1ml for my 150 gal system. tested 15 days ago i think that was at may be 0.01-0.02 now i see is all white so i guessing tha its working maybe those salifirt tests its hard to read unless you have a digital one all corals are doign great the clams are coloring up and the SPS are doing that too. So Mike do I start adding 2ml per day or keep it at 1 ml per day for the tank |
If you can give me the heat test PO4 reading as of today i will then give you new dosing guidelines
Need photos too. Things to watch white film on glass - excess use of ultra bak Dont over feed clam food or minS Other than that all seems well. |
sounds great Mike i will get that for you after supper long day at work, jsut got home had to go for a run to burn off some neg feelings....:twised:
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ok back sooner then i thought just incase that you got my message on here.. i will post a new one tested @ 80F and the PO 4 is IMO
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BEFORE ultra bak
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...L/DSC06075.jpg present after 2 weeks of dosing BAK I think so far that that colors are darken up with is nioce lots of the acro's are swoing deeper colors like the purple stag... I have just started Carbon in my phosban reactor I hope that is ok so far.. http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...L/DSC06093.jpg |
Its all looking so good :)
You can increase the bak after one week to 2ml and watch the tank daily, if the corals get too bright then increase the Min-S |
ok then i will increase to 2 ml and ten watch for the brighten colors then ,the white stuff isnt on the glass either....
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JAN 22
Started to dose 2 ml per day for now of ULTRA BAK , noticing some of the SPS reacting to the food GOOD. JAn 23 Ultra Bak 2 ML small amount of clam food Added some Carbon to the tank with the phosban reactor. tank is looking alot clearer now. Jan 24 Ultra Bak 2 ml the sps are starting to color up less signs of struggle with the SPS. Jan 25 10 gal WAter change tested Nitrates 15-20 PPM 1 ML CLam food 2 ML Ultra Bak Jan 26 2 Ml Ultra Bak Tested PO 4 .01 fed light Jan 27 2 Ml again of Ultra Bak 1 Ml Ultra Min S The tank is looking alot clearer and bright today in the corals, the clams dont seem to have the punch the maxima look blah... |
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I guess you have reduced your feeding of the clam food as you say they are off colour. Also the high Nitrates will effect the clams colour they hate any nitrate. Find the nitrate cause. Increase the Min-S to 2ml a day and let me know how often you are feeding ultra clam You are now in the process of fine tuning your system. ;) Add 2ml of min-s as of today |
ok then Mike i feed 1x per day of the clam food , in the morning and its like 1/8 of a tease spoon of food if that.
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Just remiding myself of the thread after the break away
Nitrates - yes i remember now, bit too much clam food at the beginning. Ok change of plan, we must get those nitrates down so stop the clam food and consentrate on your parameters. Dose the Bak and the Min-S as directed and I will follow up tomorrow with you |
ok STOP WITH THE CLAM FOOD
2 ml ULTRA MIN S and 2 ML ULtra BAK daily in the morning gotcha mikey ,.. and oh ya congrat on being a daddy:mrgreen: |
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You writet "10 gal WAter change tested Nitrates 15-20 PPM Which test you use and did you test direct after the change ? Greets claude |
yes that was before the water change
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It is normal that the No3 test did not showed the corract paramter mostly they will be disturb by elements in the tank. Do not stop the dosing reduce it a little bit and add some Ultrabio in your tank If you make to big changes it is never good start slowly and stop slowly Greets claude |
i have nt stopped dosing Claude, Mike told me to increase the Ultra Bak to 2 ml for my system, i have a total of 150 complete.
and to increase the Ultra MIN s to 2 ml too. I have stopped the Clam food with the ultra MIn S mixed in |
This is just claudes slight miss understanding.
Carry on as you are. I have also learnt that if you are adding Min-S to the tank you dont have to add it to the Clam food, just mix the clam food with RO. Why do I suggest this? Well we have been doing some test with a very big clam importer in the states and have shown that if you are already adding Min-S to the system in drip form you dont need to add it again to the food. So you have two choices, add the Min-S to the clam food but not again to the tank or add seperate. once you have your nitrates down i suggest carrying on seperately. Post on Sunday your NO3 level and PO4 level and then we go from there. |
I will send you some ultra Bio also as directed by Claude :)
Man you are gonna have a tank that pops once all dosings have been settled! Claude please review the whole thread and suggest a correct dosing regime, this Clam review has progressed into a full non Lith low nutrient dosing review. |
ya Claude read the whole thread shame on you, and just for that you have to let me trial one of the 3 dosing pumpunit too. :lol:
So Mike what im reading is ultra Min separate 2 ml per day in the morning the Ultra BAk. 2 ml in the morning If I want to use the clam food mix with RO/DI Water, you were right from the start thou Mike. mixing it with WAter |
Ya dreamin my friend ;)
Yes you are right 2ml of bak 2ml of min-s after 14 days dose clam mixed with RO Add to the mix ultra bio being sent to you when you remind me by pm of your address |
I should add some side notes to those of you that are following this thread
If you have persistant nitrate issues, Bak alone can take some time in getting on top of the issue. So adding the highly potent Ultra Bio to the mix you are adding extremely powerful denitrification bacteria to the tank daily on a controlled level. adding bio and bak at the same time will destroy ALL bad nutrients fast, this goes for ANY tank. Ultra bio is the bacteria and Ultra Bak is the food source. If you just add Ultra Bak, you will in time eliminate the bad guys from the tank, but it takes time as you are boosting the already existing biological loading of your system by direct feeding. By adding Bio you are also massively increasing the amount of bacteria in the tank which then the Ultra Bak will feed. Result a full LN system! ;) Low Nutrient |
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i see little grass hopper one thing about reefing you never fully understand all.. i love it
Mike Im curious how long will and can I trial for.. is there a certain deadline. |
As long as you are happy carrying on there is no deadline.
Dont worry, with ALL fauna products you can stop using them at any time. (but why ;) ) you just need to come off it slowly never go cold turkey! Once you have you system stable we will then talk about future progressions if you decided to have a system that was free of bad guys and a tank full of lush corals. |
Next step -
Review the new Fauna marin Ultra lith filter Oops cat out the bag !!! One for March that is ;) |
Well as this review is getting SO much attention and has progressed from an Ultra Clam review to many products of Fauna Marin, Claude from Fauna Marin has agreed to take over and guide you live on the forum for all dosing and get this review really rocking :)
So over to claude, he will have many questions for you, please follow his guidence 100% you will have amazing results :) Being dosed so far are Ultra Clam Ultra Min-S Ultra Bak I am to send Ultra Bio shortly |
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Ok i have sometimes problems to understand your postings i can read english but slang is difficult what i need to know what you add at the moment in your tank please also which salt / elements / and foods also your actual water parameters. which light you use and could you send here a pictures greets claude |
hey claude i can type it out in German just say the word , not many people know that i can translate english to german one of my fine trades that i have :mrgreen: and being sexy is the other one.. :biggrin:
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10 gal per week for water changes 150 gal total I feed mysis 2 times per week spirlina flakes and prime reef too flakes every day 2times Run CARBON in a reactor I run 3x 250's 12K Reefflux 2 12K and 14K in the middle 7hrs per day CAl 450 ALK 8.0 DKH Magnesuim 1350 Nitrates 15 PPM 1.024 temp 79F I dose ULTRA BAK 2 ML ULTRA MIN s 2 ML Soon to have Ultra BIO |
And for the rest of us that fall into the catagory "hard of thinking"
English is just fine :lol: |
hey no worries mate. lol
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LOL You just told me in german you need 10 girls to make the water change :-DD :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: how many and which carbon you use ` and did you dont use any trace element ? please change the salt to Reef Crystals from instant ocean or Tunze salt Greets claude |
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no trace elements as of yet havent bee ntold to use it. i have lots of seachem cal and ALK additives left... why am i switching salts I have a huge supply of IO salt. I have been using IO for 7 years now. I would like to know why i would be switching salt. can i switch salts after using this IO , why is INSTANT OCEAN not used but reef cystals is |
some salts work better with Lith systems than others, Claude has done many experiments and found the one he suggest works best with the Fauna Lith products due to the chemistry of the salt and what additives are used in their production, this can lead to too many trace elements in the tank which your clams will not like
By changing to the salt claude recommends you will have a balanced system with only the trace elements that your system requires at the right amounts also |
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hmm i did not know the carbon did you use ist longer time yet and did you check the PH Level after using it RC Salt is made for reef tanks IO for fish tank the IO salt is not as stabil as the RC salt thats the reason why i said better use this greets claude |
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What i need is also your Po4 level and PH Swing Did you have a sandbed or normal Berlin System ? Greets claude |
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Thats makes sence, might have to look into gettting RC salt now ... |
OK the trial is going really good IMO. I have seen lots and huge PE on the SPS.
since the 27 of Jan weekly water changes on SUN still running BLACK diamond Carbon in TLf reactor. increased to 2ML per day with the ULTRA BAK and ULTRA MIN s CLaude here are the lasest test s for ya ... PO4 0.03 ppm it is going up from 0.1 to .03ppm NO3 10PPM ALK 7.4 CAL 350 PH 8.2 All tests are from Salifert. I dont know why my PO4 is going up i thought that this stuff the BAK is suppose to take it out...:sad: may be im not seeing somthing. i have put off on the clam food for 1 week so far too.. my be its the min S doing it.. |
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The Bio and Bak will bring down the PO4, Min-S can not increase PO4 as there is no PO4 in it, it is an amino acid no organic compound, the PO4 will be coming from residual in the tank which we discussed on the phone that the Bio will resolve combined with the Bak. This is being sent today. As we discussed on the phone the first clam would never latch from new and was always wandering around, this is a clear sign of weakness and time will always weed out the weak, the other one as you said never grew or opened up so again, the strong will thrive the really weak no matter what you did will fade. Ultra Clam food in many occassions have saved ropey clams from going over the edge, but that is dependant on some very regular small target feeding and also that they have not gone too far already. We have a dealer in Ottawa that target feeds his new imports for two weeks before releasing for sale and has not had a loss since. (he will be a sponsor here very soon also ) With the new dosing of clam - Bak - min-S and the Bio for your PO4 within 1 week you will see even greater results. |
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