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sphelps 10-28-2008 03:00 PM

Thanks!

For the size thing just to be safe is the measurement referring to the skeleton size? Or when it's fully expanded. Only reason I ask is sometimes you can buy an open brain, torch coral or other LPS coral at a small size and they can easily expand to twice their size in a few days, the only thing constant is the skeleton, so I'm assuming that's what we should be measuring?

ElGuappo 10-28-2008 05:59 PM

IMO for things like torches ETC it should be per head. this is how they are sold. and i have one with 6 legs on the skeleton but only 3 of the legs have coral. it does however have about 12 heads. but again it comes down to honor as without being able to veiw it close up it would look like 3 heads in a pick. im not using this piece as i just took it out of my other 10 as its sweepers could reach almost 3/4 the way accross the tank.

JDigital 10-28-2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGuappo (Post 355441)
IMO for things like torches ETC it should be per head. this is how they are sold. and i have one with 6 legs on the skeleton but only 3 of the legs have coral. it does however have about 12 heads. but again it comes down to honor as without being able to veiw it close up it would look like 3 heads in a pick. im not using this piece as i just took it out of my other 10 as its sweepers could reach almost 3/4 the way accross the tank.

JL and LA both sell them by size according to their websites. JL Aquautics

Since we are using them for alot of pricing, might as well measure them as such.

sphelps 10-28-2008 07:02 PM

So are we to measure estimated full expanded size then or just skeleton? I'm good with any method just want to know which one to follow.

With torch, frogspawn, and hammer per head is fine but not all of these corals are branching style you can also get ones that grow from a single head.

JDigital 10-28-2008 07:05 PM

So, I did a bit of work, and put together a fairly good price list. I know I am missing things, but this should cover most of the common stuff.

If you have something that isn't on the list, post or PM and I will get it priced and added to the list.

Here is what I got so far.

Zoas:
- $5 Zoas (>15 heads)
- $10 Zoa Colony (>15 heads)
GSP Frags (Sizes based on mat width)
- $10 < 1.5"
- $15 2"-4"
- $20 4"+
Ricordia/Yumas
- $5 Smaller than a Toonie
- $10 Larger than a Toonie
Mushrooms/Metalic Mushrooms
- $5 < 1"
- $10 1.5"-2.5"
- $15 3"+
SPS Frags (Acro, Mille, Digi, Birdsnest, Monti.. etc)
- $10 < 2"
- $15 2"-5"
- $20 5"-15"
Clams (All species, Sizes based on length, not width)
- $20 < 2"
- $30 2.5"-3.5"
- $45 4"+
Hammer, torch, frogspawn, Bubble coral.. stuff will long polyps that reach out:
- $15 Small <3" (Skeleton @ Widest part)
- $20 Large >3" (Skeleton @ widest part)
For things like Brains, lobos, favites, plate-ish stuff:
- $15 Small 1.5-2.5"
- $20Large is 3"+
Duncans:
-$10/single head
-$20/double head
-$30/triple head
Dendros
- $10/polyp
Suncoral:
- Yellow (tube coral): $15 small (<2"), $20 large (>2")
- Black (tube coral): $20 small (<2"), $25 large (>2")

rocketlily 10-28-2008 07:25 PM

This price list is a good thing. Too bad it wasn't done before the contest started. I have based the prices of my tank on the first post, as well as emails with you and Michika.

I am now sitting at:

Prices on first post: $237.89
Added last night: Used Korilia Nano Powerhead $26.21
Added last night: 4 Blue Mushrooms $20.00
Added last night: Small Devil's Hand $15.00

Total Tank as of last night $299.10

Added today because of price increases $45.00

Total Tank as of today $344.10

Looks like I'm over, so I guess I'm disqualified.

JDigital 10-28-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketlily (Post 355476)
This price list is a good thing. Too bad it wasn't done before the contest started. I have based the prices of my tank on the first post, as well as emails with you and Michika.

I am now sitting at:

Prices on first post: $237.89
Added last night: Used Korilia Nano Powerhead $26.21
Added last night: 4 Blue Mushrooms $20.00
Added last night: Small Devil's Hand $15.00

Total Tank as of last night $299.10

Added today because of price increases $45.00

Total Tank as of today $344.10

Looks like I'm over, so I guess I'm disqualified.

You're not DQ'd... LOL

Where were your increases?

sphelps 10-28-2008 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketlily (Post 355476)
Looks like I'm over, so I guess I'm disqualified.

Well what changed, it's looks pretty much the same just more detail. Once thing that can't happen now is any price increases. rocketlily, what changed to increase your budget?

Also Dendros and Duncuns should probably be the same price ($10 per polyp), and suncorals should be much less and probably per colony with similar pricing to other LPS.

JDigital 10-28-2008 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 355478)

Also Dendros and Duncuns should probably be the same price ($10 per polyp), and suncorals should be much less and probably per colony with similar pricing to other LPS.

Fair enough, that stuff is kinda out of my coral knowledge :)

Recommended Suncoral prices?

sphelps 10-28-2008 07:48 PM

Should we eliminate the rare zoo pricing and just have zoo pricing? I'm just thinking to keep it simple as there are other rare corals other than zoos and people may have different opinions on what exactly is considered rare. Or keep it as is, just asking :biggrin:

I know this is probably a little frustrating for some and obviously it would have been better to have everything 100% at the start but since this is the first contest we should all bare with JDigital (including myself) and accept the fact that we're all learning here as we go and somethings may change but only in the spirit of helping everyone in the contest. Thanks JDigital for putting up with all this and especially me, I would have quit a long time ago :lol:

Yellow Suncoral (tube coral): $15 small (<2"), $20 large (>2")
Black Suncoral (tube coral): $20 small (<2"), $25 large (>2")

rocketlily 10-28-2008 08:03 PM

Prices from 1st post:
Quote "$10 small colony of special rare zoas, or regular zoos that are 15-50 heads"

Pricing on my thread as of last night:
Quote "9 med zoanthids (15 - 25 heads) @ $10.00 each $ 90.00 (transferred from 50 gal tank)"

Pricing on today's thread:
Quote: "- $15 Zoa Colony (>15 heads)"

Pricing of my tank as of this afternoon has increased by $45.00. This $45.00 increase has put me over $44.10.

JDigital 10-28-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 355482)
Should we eliminate the rare zoo pricing and just have zoo pricing? I'm just thinking to keep it simple as there are other rare corals other than zoos and people may have different opinions on what exactly is considered rare. Or keep it as is, just asking :biggrin:

I know this is probably a little frustrating for some and obviously it would have been better to have everything 100% at the start but since this is the first contest we should all bare with JDigital (including myself) and accept the fact that we're all learning here as we go and somethings may change but only in the spirit of helping everyone in the contest. Thanks JDigital for putting up with all this and especially me, I would have quit a long time ago :lol:

Yellow Suncoral (tube coral): $15 small (<2"), $20 large (>2")
Black Suncoral (tube coral): $20 small (<2"), $25 large (>2")


Hahah! I won't be organizing the next one.. :lol:

Sounds good on the Zoos as long as we can all agree that is the best plan. Would make my life easier. :mrgreen:

Suncoral Pricing added.

JDigital 10-28-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketlily (Post 355485)
Prices from 1st post:
Quote "$10 small colony of special rare zoas, or regular zoos that are 15-50 heads"

Pricing on my thread as of last night:
Quote "9 med zoanthids (15 - 25 heads) @ $10.00 each $ 90.00 (transferred from 50 gal tank)"

Pricing on today's thread:
Quote: "- $15 Zoa Colony (>15 heads)"

Pricing of my tank as of this afternoon has increased by $45.00. This $45.00 increase has put me over $44.10.


Prices reverted to Original. :)

Chaloupa 10-28-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 355488)
Prices reverted to Original. :)

Good.....I think that's fair as we all have been going by that .... and then to change it meaning someone is DQ'd isn't fair......looking forward to the Nov 15 pics!

JDigital 10-28-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaloupa (Post 355510)
Good.....I think that's fair as we all have been going by that .... and then to change it meaning someone is DQ'd isn't fair......looking forward to the Nov 15 pics!


No one was DQ'd... and the zoas were the only thing that I changed. My mistake.

Just trying to provide a detailed price list for everyone to use, and at the time there was a regular and rare zoas to price accordingly... Now that they are the same price, there shouldn't be any issues.

noirsphynx 10-29-2008 02:22 PM

I bought a baby ricordia from a LFS for $9.99. Is it safe to assume I can add one of my baby Rics for that price as well?

JDigital 10-29-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noirsphynx (Post 355676)
I bought a baby ricordia from a LFS for $9.99. Is it safe to assume I can add one of my baby Rics for that price as well?


Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 355466)
Ricordia/Yumas
- $5 Smaller than a Toonie
- $10 Larger than a Toonie

.

noirsphynx 10-29-2008 04:56 PM

Sorry, I have no idea how I missed that, thanks.

noirsphynx 10-29-2008 05:03 PM

Am I the only one getting confused here? I'm constantly having to shuffle through this thread to find prices on corals. Is there anyway a sticky can be made at the first of the post where the concrete prices will be so we're not having to dig?

ElGuappo 10-29-2008 05:13 PM

STICKY THiS:mrgreen:

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 347738)
Alright, so for everyone who wants to discuss prices this is the thread for you. I will, once we've decided on some price points, ask Christy very nicely if she will post a sticky thread.

Originally I had suggested something along the lines of the following and we had some mixed reviews. So this is your chance to say something.

e.g.
-$5 small colony of regular zoas, under 15 heads
-$10 small colony of special rare zoas, or regular zoos that are 15-50 heads.
-$10 small SPS frag, under 2"
-$15 SPS frag from 2"-5"
-$20 SPS from 5"-15"
-$30 small clam, under 3.5"
-$15 small softie, e.g. leather, xenia
-$20 large softie
-$15 small LPS, e.g. hammer
-$20 large LPS
- ? specialty items, aussie acans, suncorals, dendros, etc.

I think a basic list for non-specialty things will make the process a lot simpler.

1) Do we still want to go with a basic list?
2) Prices should stay here, go up, go down?
3) What else should be on the basic list?

Once we have an idea of the basic list I'll be able to better reply to the PMs I've gotten about pricing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 355466)
So, I did a bit of work, and put together a fairly good price list. I know I am missing things, but this should cover most of the common stuff.

If you have something that isn't on the list, post or PM and I will get it priced and added to the list.

Here is what I got so far.

Zoas:
- $5 Zoas (>15 heads)
- $10 Zoa Colony (>15 heads)
GSP Frags (Sizes based on mat width)
- $10 < 1.5"
- $15 2"-4"
- $20 4"+
Ricordia/Yumas
- $5 Smaller than a Toonie
- $10 Larger than a Toonie
Mushrooms/Metalic Mushrooms
- $5 < 1"
- $10 1.5"-2.5"
- $15 3"+
SPS Frags (Acro, Mille, Digi, Birdsnest, Monti.. etc)
- $10 < 2"
- $15 2"-5"
- $20 5"-15"
Clams (All species, Sizes based on length, not width)
- $20 < 2"
- $30 2.5"-3.5"
- $45 4"+
Hammer, torch, frogspawn, Bubble coral.. stuff will long polyps that reach out:
- $15 Small <3" (Skeleton @ Widest part)
- $20 Large >3" (Skeleton @ widest part)
For things like Brains, lobos, favites, plate-ish stuff:
- $15 Small 1.5-2.5"
- $20Large is 3"+
Duncans:
-$10/single head
-$20/double head
-$30/triple head
Dendros
- $10/polyp
Suncoral:
- Yellow (tube coral): $15 small (<2"), $20 large (>2")
- Black (tube coral): $20 small (<2"), $25 large (>2")


noirsphynx 10-29-2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGuappo (Post 355721)
STICKY THiS:mrgreen:

Thanks ElGuappo :smile:

ElGuappo 10-30-2008 12:08 AM

Sooooooooooooooo i have this toadstool seedling i was thinking i may be able to squeeze into my budget i was just wondering what i would be charged for it? it is smaller than a dime and is not a frag. when i bought mine this was the size of a pinhead. i also have a second one that is also the size of a dime i am willing to sell to anyone locally for $5 . can i claim the one i want to use for $5 ?????/

i am willing to sell to anyone locally for $5.... yes i have 2 and 1 is for sale.

rocketlily 10-30-2008 02:40 AM

Can someone please tell me what a piece of Blue Cloves would be. Size is 1/2" x 3/4".

Thank you

sphelps 10-30-2008 02:44 AM

ElGuappo - $5
rocketlily - $5

ElGuappo 10-30-2008 03:14 AM

Well while ive been gone i see there are lots of posts. had a bit of a time catching up. the who price change and rechange was new to me. and believe it or not i think i may have a decent idea. i was looking around and i have seen no prices on CUCs. i was just wondering if perhaps we wanted to set a flat rate for things like hermits, snails and such. just and idea.

Marg snail 1.5
sm turbo 2
lg turbo 3.5
red hermit 1
blue hermit .75
sand sifting star 5
astria snail 1.75.

??????????????????????????/:wink:

rocketlily 10-30-2008 03:17 AM

Would we not post the prices on a CUC as the actual prices we paid when we went and bought new ones?

I paid $1.99 for a Blue legged hermit crab, so that's what I posted.

sphelps 10-30-2008 03:21 AM

I think you're suppose to go by J&L pricing for CUC

Ryan_Lap 10-30-2008 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 355886)
I think you're suppose to go by J&L pricing for CUC

Yup, too many diff prices. Easier if we all pay the same.

ElGuappo 10-30-2008 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 355886)
I think you're suppose to go by J&L pricing for CUC

This is essentially what i was wondering. so far i have posted what i paid.

sphelps 10-30-2008 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGuappo (Post 355891)
This is essentially what i was wondering. so far i have posted what i paid.

Yeah use J&Ls pricing, I believe the price list generated in this thread is just for coral since pricing varies so much. Inverts and fish have more consistent pricing and are generally the same as J&L but if you get it for less than listed on J&l all you need is some kind of receipt to use the price you paid.

JDigital 10-30-2008 03:34 AM

JL or Liveaquaria for CUC/Fish prices

ElGuappo 10-30-2008 03:37 AM

Sorry feeling ignorant here. does this mean on anything we paid more retail than listed at jl we use jl's price ?( used less 25% no used price on livestock) and anything we got at a price better than jl we list at that price provided we can supply a recipt?

Sorry i am jsut trying to find out if there is a standard here or if its all what we paid individually.

JDigital 10-30-2008 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGuappo (Post 355899)
Sorry feeling ignorant here. does this mean on anything we paid more retail than listed at jl we use jl's price ?( used less 25% no used price on livestock) and anything we got at a price better than jl we list at that price provided we can supply a recipt?

Sorry i am jsut trying to find out if there is a standard here or if its all what we paid individually.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 355898)
JL or Liveaquaria for CUC/Fish prices

There's your standard. :)

ElGuappo 10-31-2008 07:54 PM

What about sale price? can we use sale prices listed on either of our price coomparison sites:question:?

JDigital 10-31-2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGuappo (Post 356338)
What about sale price? can we use sale prices listed on either of our price coomparison sites:question:?

As long as you provide a link.

noirsphynx 11-17-2008 06:30 PM

Is a very small leather frag that's about the size of a toonie still $15? I'm also wondering about a sun coral single polyp. I have one that I paid $5 for a while back, is it still $15 for a single head?

JDigital 11-17-2008 08:06 PM

If you can provide the reciept for the good deal, you are welcome to use the price you paid, otherwise we all need to stick to the price list. :)

noirsphynx 11-17-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 360707)
If you can provide the reciept for the good deal, you are welcome to use the price you paid, otherwise we all need to stick to the price list. :)

I believe I do have the reciept still but it doesn't specify what the item is. It's one of those generic reciepts.

Ryan_Lap 11-17-2008 08:26 PM

I thought everybody paid the same on LS. I didnt think we could 'score' a good deal on LS and corals.

For instance....Im getting a bunch of mushrooms for 'free' in which I 'scored' a deal. I guess I dont have to claim them in the budget then.

noirsphynx 11-17-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noirsphynx (Post 360712)
I believe I do have the reciept still but it doesn't specify what the item is. It's one of those generic reciepts.

Never mind. I found the reciepts but all they give me is a total of what I spent and no actual items.


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