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Darth Wader 05-14-2008 09:05 PM

Yea totally. People will have forgot all about it when the results come.

Treebeard 05-14-2008 09:41 PM

Although the Calgary Zoo has had some "bad luck" recently, it doesn't seem fair to be charging, trialling and convicting them all at once. It is possible that this was a deliberate attack.

Brent F 05-14-2008 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i have crabs (Post 324101)
visitor tampering was ruled out today.

Latest story is poisoning suspected
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/can...html?id=515110
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...2-85ad833be39e

Darth Wader 05-14-2008 10:27 PM

If it was poisoning that’s some really messed up stuff for a person to do. I mean honestly how crazy of a person would you have to be to poison stingrays in the zoo? I'm not saying its not a possibility I'm just saying thats a really crazy thing for a person to do. However having said that, dragging a dog behind a vehicle is messed up and we all heard about that happening so I wouldn’t put it passed some of the messed up people out there.

Delphinus 05-14-2008 10:56 PM

Some animal activist wishing to discredit the zoo?

Some (severely misguided) miscreant taking "revenge" on rays for Steve Irwin's death?

Pranksters with no regard for the life and/or well being of an animal?

Who can even guess what some people are thinking? It's sickening to me but I think it's a real possibility that can't be ignored. There's just not that many things that would have such a devastating impact so quickly. Something got into the water ... accidentally or deliberately.

The saddest part is that if it WAS deliberate, short of someone coming forward with information, we might never know who or why.

i have crabs 05-14-2008 11:03 PM

[quote=Matt;324113]Hippo did die.

wrong hippo
the adult from denver did die wich was no involvment of the calgary zoo the baby hippo was from the granby zoo and is back thier now
http://www.zoodegranby.com/en/visite...tes.htm#polita

dsaundry 05-14-2008 11:51 PM

I would think that this is the result of a really sick person{if poison is determined} I know it can happen but it would have take a major collapse of the system for it to have had this type of effect...my guess is poison..:sad:

staffordreef 05-15-2008 02:23 PM

Maybe it's best if it does just blow over. It is tragic about the rays; but in context how many fish, coral and invertebrates die in Calgary each day in the pet stores and in peoples homes due to neglect, untreated diesease, water quality issues, poorly designed systems....? It's like the ducks in Northern Alberta - people are quick to rally against the oil industry yet everyday 100,000's of birds are killed by cats and I don't see any movement to eliminate them. Every day there are threads on this website from people whose tanks have collapsed, who can't keep certain corals alive yet still keep trying, who try and keep fish in tanks that are too small and we all give them advice and wish em better luck next time. If the public decides that ultimately wild animals should be left there because people can't take care of them then we all better start looking for a new hobby. Those who own glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

My 2 cents.

dsaundry 05-15-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Maybe it's best if it does just blow over. It is tragic about the rays; but in context how many fish, coral and invertebrates die in Calgary each day in the pet stores and in peoples homes due to neglect, untreated diesease, water quality issues, poorly designed systems....? It's like the ducks in Northern Alberta - people are quick to rally against the oil industry yet everyday 100,000's of birds are killed by cats and I don't see any movement to eliminate them. Every day there are threads on this website from people whose tanks have collapsed, who can't keep certain corals alive yet still keep trying, who try and keep fish in tanks that are too small and we all give them advice and wish em better luck next time. If the public decides that ultimately wild animals should be left there because people can't take care of them then we all better start looking for a new hobby. Those who own glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

My 2 cents.
Not sure I agree with that completely. If it is a result of a deliberate action I think it is deplorable of the guilty party and they should be punished. as for regular actions of nature,Eg, a cat killing a bird etc, thats a normal instinctive action of an animal. As for the oil industry, sure I would love to see them pay but being realistic I know it probably won't happen, just keep watching our fuel prices going up and maybe one day the general public will say "ENOUGH". Until that time comes you might as well get used to it..I agree some people shouldn't keep tanks or any pets for that matter, however sadly it usually takes some deplorable action for any action to be taken. But yes there are those in the aquarium industry argueably shouldn't be but some of the people that are new are going to make mistakes, thats why there are forums to help them understand where they went wrong. Its the people that make the same mistakes over and over again that should find a good book to read and stay out of the aquarium biz. As quoted by a much smarter person than me.."Those that do not learn from their mistakes are destined to repeat them" Everybody must start from the beginning and with time and knowledge they achieve some of the beautiful tanks you see on the various web sites. It also brings a love and understanding of what nature offers us in the wild, as evidenced by some of the great dive pictures members send in. So to summarize I agree that some people shouldn't be allowed to have pets of any kind, I disagree that it should just blow over. A reason for it must be determined, whether its poisoning or a fault with the zoo's system.....my 2cents

i have crabs 05-15-2008 08:37 PM

i herd a someone from the zoo today on the radio and it seems like they have no clue what happened wich i guess isnt news but when asked if they had any staff with experience or expertice on keeping rays or animals like them the zoo guy completly dodged the question wich seemed like they have no qualified person to me wich is a little unresponsible if true, hope its not.
i do wish we could see what type of equipment is used 40 something rays seems like way to many i seen the tank with 18 and thought that was enough, i also wonder what tests they do and how they test them

spikehs 05-15-2008 09:30 PM

perhaps it was a cumulative thing and it reached a "critical mass" so to speak? If something was spreading through the water at some sort of exponential rate, the system could have been able to handle the load until it doubled again (or whatever) where it was suddenly too much for the rays to take?


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