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fishoholic 03-29-2008 03:30 PM

Very impressive and brave! Good luck with your build.

michika 03-29-2008 04:29 PM

So how about a bit more on what kind of finished product we are trying to achieve. I've always liked the tank stand setup that Cprowler has going on his 120g system. We want to do a control box/storage on one side on our system.

A few things that I want have on this tank;
- filtersock holder
- Removable top off container
- Automatic feeder

I'll see if I can dig up some photos of what we are aiming for, or at least drawings for comments.

michika 03-30-2008 02:58 AM

Its a box!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0161.jpg

The dilemma
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0159.jpg

So our dilemma now is the debate between going with eurobracing, or go with this non-eurobracing. My concern is that when we pop a 250w MH over this glass piece that it will hinder the light penetration in the tank. Anyone have any suggestion on this?

We are willing to buy the extra glass to do the eurobrace, we are just wondering how much of a benefit will it be to us in the long run, and in regards to using MH lighting.

Next up;
- Tank Bracing
- Floor reinforcement

cprowler 03-30-2008 03:18 AM

Looking good Catherine, Can't wait to follow along with you guys on this one.

Pan 03-30-2008 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 313961)
Its a box!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0161.jpg

The dilemma
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0159.jpg

So our dilemma now is the debate between going with eurobracing, or go with this non-eurobracing. My concern is that when we pop a 250w MH over this glass piece that it will hinder the light penetration in the tank. Anyone have any suggestion on this?

We are willing to buy the extra glass to do the eurobrace, we are just wondering how much of a benefit will it be to us in the long run, and in regards to using MH lighting.

Next up;
- Tank Bracing
- Floor reinforcement

Wow looks like someone wasn't playing the xbox at least :)
Looks good. You might consider getting the one brace re cut using starphire glass that way you can brace it the light will penetrate and cheaper than getting all that glass for eurobracing. Eurobracing is a hinderance when it comes to cleaing to, all that salt as opposed to cleaning the one brace :)

KrazyKuch 03-30-2008 04:06 AM

Good point on that....I guess I can call Bow Valley on Monday and get that cut up as well as the piece of glass for the overflow!

Pan 03-30-2008 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyKuch (Post 313990)
Good point on that....I guess I can call Bow Valley on Monday and get that cut up as well as the piece of glass for the overflow!

Think it would be the best/cheapest option. or you could always just do the four corner triangle thing...i've seen a few tanks like that...mine is like that. Seems to work...god i hope so...

KrazyKuch 03-30-2008 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 313992)
Think it would be the best/cheapest option. or you could always just do the four corner triangle thing...i've seen a few tanks like that...mine is like that. Seems to work...god i hope so...


How would the corner triangles stop the pains of glass from bowing out in the middle, that sounds like something to just reinforce the corners!!

saltynuts 03-30-2008 04:38 AM

new tank
 
better hurry up i have a lot of stuff to sell soon!

Pan 03-30-2008 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyKuch (Post 313999)
How would the corner triangles stop the pains of glass from bowing out in the middle, that sounds like something to just reinforce the corners!!

I am not sure, i've just seen a lot of tanks like this...i know mine does not bow...it's 24 inches high though..maybe a tad higher...but i think 24 ? :)
You could ask bow valley though :) i think if i was building one though i would probably use bracing in the middle though..if only for piece of mind. But I have only ever built little tanks for myself :)

michika 03-30-2008 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed holland (Post 314002)
better hurry up i have a lot of stuff to sell soon!

Getting out again or upgrading?

rigger11 03-30-2008 06:21 AM

hes bailling out again!!!!! just for the summer i think?

michika 03-30-2008 03:54 PM

Crazy man that Ed is! We are tentatively planning a trip up to Edmonton at the end of April. So Ed I guess we should coordinate something, and you too Rigger11, we want to get together with you as well.

michika 04-02-2008 03:54 PM

A much needed update;

The glass for eurobracing has been ordered, someone just needs to pick it up. Its available tonight.

The required mermaid photos;
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0162.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0171.jpg

The wood for stand, storage closet, and hood
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0177.jpg

This was yesterday;
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0181.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0183.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0184.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0185.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0186.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0187.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0188.jpg

Der_Iron_Chef 04-02-2008 04:51 PM

Looks great, Catherine. I wish I had y'alls mad tank-makin' skillz!

justinl 04-04-2008 05:50 AM

lol I love the livestock!

Any reason you didnt make the corner braces on the stand go from the floor up to the top of the stand (rather than between the horizontal pieces as you did)? I just figure it might be stronger to transfer the weight of the tank to the floor via single pieces of wood rather than three distinct pieces.

spoot 04-04-2008 06:34 AM

The single top layer is best, as it will end up being flatter. I would have the legs go all the way down on mine and just built the bottom frame inside the legs. Just personal preference. One it is all screwed together, the legs and the bottome frame will move and act as one, transfering the weight to the floor evenly along the whole bottom.

KrazyKuch 04-04-2008 12:51 PM

The reason I did it this way is so that not a single screw is taking any weight....the screws are just holding the wood together!!!

KrazyKuch 04-15-2008 11:59 PM

Much Needed Update
 
Well it's been a couple weeks but We finally got our glass for the overflow and Euro Brace. Also did some more work on the stand, got the plywood down and the foam so it's ready to go!!

The Euro Brace is 5/8" thick and 4" wide, The overflow is 5/8" thick and is 6" deep, the two side supports for the overflow is 3/4"(reason for such thickness is that bow valley had scrap pieces kicking around so we got them cheap!)

Stand so far!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020527.jpg

Shot of the plywood!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020528.jpg

Glass for the Euro Brace and the Overflow!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020544.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020545.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020546.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020547.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020548.jpg

Black acrylic for the overflow!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020549.jpg

Overflow in Place!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020550.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020551.jpg

Shots of back Euro brace being attached
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020553.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020555.jpg

Attaching the side pieces of the Euro brace
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020556.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/P1020557.jpg

michika 04-16-2008 06:18 PM

We are planning a Tank Lift party on Sunday May 4th. We'll be offering BBQ foods along with Rock Band. By that time the tank should be drilled and ready to be set up on the stand.

Delphinus 04-16-2008 07:18 PM

I'll come help lift!

Pan 04-26-2008 07:37 AM

Need more photos of it waiting to be lifted....lets go...come on already.

lastlight 04-26-2008 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyKuch (Post 315491)
The reason I did it this way is so that not a single screw is taking any weight....the screws are just holding the wood together!!!

This was the reasoning I used for doing the exact same thing on my first tank. Will do it again!

michika 04-27-2008 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 320532)
Need more photos of it waiting to be lifted....lets go...come on already.

Photos tomorrow, its Rock Band night with family! We now have our skimmer too!

Pan 04-27-2008 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 320717)
Photos tomorrow, its Rock Band night with family! We now have our skimmer too!

I'll settle for pics of you guys doing the rockband think...you go full out and dress up in costumes :)


What skimmer did you settle on?


sigh......

"and the new one I got today is a DUAL Recirculating DDNW-250."
I really should pay attention.

michika 04-28-2008 03:13 AM

Some photos of the skimmer. Tank drilling will probably happen this week, it keeps getting pushed back, but it will get done eventually. The skimmer we picked up is an Octopus dual recirculating skimmer (DDNW-250).

Before cleaning, and just prior to a wet test
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0223.jpg

Test water from some rock we are cycling
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0224.jpg

Putting the collection cup into perspective
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0227.jpg

A shot down inside the neck
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0229.jpg

The skimmer collection cup from my 28g nano in comparison to this new one.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0230.jpg

michika 05-09-2008 01:47 AM

So as some of you can guess the tank lift party didn't happen this past weekend. Thats okay, we ended up putting it on the stand tonight.

First the stand needed a hole for the plumbing
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0245.jpg

Kevin cut in the hole, I watched, and plugged my ears.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0247.jpg

A hole!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0249.jpg

A padded hole
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0251.jpg

Then through the magic of photography the tank is suddenly on the stand!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0252.jpg

The glass needs to be cleaned, and then our next step is the floor, adjusting everything so its all level.

The rock is still cooking, and it is thankfully far less foul. I hope it will be ready soon enough to get this tank full of salt water in the next two weeks, maybe 4 weeks if I need to wait.

Pan 05-09-2008 02:24 AM

Yay!...



oh and...about bloody time :)

michika 05-09-2008 02:28 AM

So true!

There should be lots more progress in the next month. Tomorrow is a big day for building, or at least this weekend is. I'm STILL waiting on my bulkhead shipment, I think tomorrow I will just purchase locally. Where would I go for bulkheads in town?

lastlight 05-09-2008 06:01 AM

I saw a bunch at Elite the other day...

Build's looking great. What type of foam did you get?

Pan 05-09-2008 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 323078)
So true!

There should be lots more progress in the next month. Tomorrow is a big day for building, or at least this weekend is. I'm STILL waiting on my bulkhead shipment, I think tomorrow I will just purchase locally. Where would I go for bulkheads in town?

Emco has the white pvc threaded bulkheads...

michika 05-09-2008 12:23 PM

I think its neoprene foam. It came from Rona.

Well I'm over by Emco so I may head over there at lunch, if not, to Elite I will go.

BC564 05-09-2008 03:30 PM

I'm tagging along for this build....very interesting.
Hope Sunday works and I can see the progress in person.

michika 05-10-2008 02:24 AM

There may actually be water in it on Sunday!

Emco Waterworks is the place to go to get bulkheads, its on 44th st and 90th ave (I think). Glen is the man to speak to if you are wondering. I unfortunately went to the wrong location, and will be waiting until Monday for my bulkheads, unless another store in town carries them. Everyone seems to be out lately.

Pan 05-10-2008 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 323219)
There may actually be water in it on Sunday!

Emco Waterworks is the place to go to get bulkheads, its on 44th st and 90th ave (I think). Glen is the man to speak to if you are wondering. I unfortunately went to the wrong location, and will be waiting until Monday for my bulkheads, unless another store in town carries them. Everyone seems to be out lately.

Told Ya :)

michika 05-11-2008 03:26 PM

Alright the first part of this weekend's photo montage!

1st we moved the RO/DI to a better place, from under the kitchen sink into the utility room. This allows us to fill a larger container with RO/DI rather then the 3g storage container we had before.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0254.jpg

Then out came the Acetone, and as per Bow Valley we cleaned up all the extra silicone that was in places it shouldn't be.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0257.jpg

The tank clean up
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0260.jpg

Then into the dreaded crawl space to reinforce the floor
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0263.jpg

Again, through the magic of photography its suddenly done!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0265.jpg

The inaugural bucket of the water test
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0270.jpg

The second bucket of the water test, which by the way went very well.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0273.jpg

Boomboy 05-11-2008 05:04 PM

but what about the third bucket... what happens next. its coming along nicely, its that time in between putting water into it and getting your first fish into that really sucks to wait for.

michika 05-11-2008 07:18 PM

Lol @ 3rd bucket!

Well there is salt in the tank now and its almost all mixed in. Next up is the sand, Caribsea's Agronite, and something else by Caribesea, but its much finer, Oolite perhaps? Both came to me super cheap, thanks buy/sell forum, and in bags!

Pan 05-11-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 323518)
Lol @ 3rd bucket!

Well there is salt in the tank now and its almost all mixed in. Next up is the sand, Caribsea's Agronite, and something else by Caribesea, but its much finer, Oolite perhaps? Both came to me super cheap, thanks buy/sell forum, and in bags!

Hurry up..it's raining and there is nothing on the television...and i don't want to do my water change right now.

Side note..if i had cable there might be something on tv.

Looks great so far catherine, so what are your stocking plans...besides the ones you have already got...the ones in your little one are going into the new tank right? Every had a Marine Betta? was lookinga t one the other day, pretty neat looking, guess i should look it up.

michika 05-11-2008 07:40 PM

You should have stayed in town yesterday, then I could have put you to work over here!

Okay stocking plan tentatively are;
Tangs - various, will post when I actually have them
Emperor angel
Male mandarin, which I have already. I would like to add a female, but they seem to be extra hard to find.
I want a schooling fish of sorts, I am researching glass eye cardinals right now
Pair of yellow headed jawfish
a few lipstick conches
my one yellow damsel, one of my first fish from when I first started.
Clown gobies - green, or yellow, not sure yet.

The plan is to do a bunch of low islands throughout the tank, and to eventually grow up SPS colonies, like stags, digis and birdnests. I would like to create a forest like look and have the SPS act as hiding spaces. I want to put a minimal amount of rock in the display, and plan to keep the bulk of the rock in the sump.

Since I have to wait for the SPS to grow in, I'll be adding fish in 3 or so waves. 1st wave will be a few more social fish, and my existing livestock. I want fish that will stay out and will socialize, and in turn they will bring out any shy fish I add in the future. 2nd wave will be some of the bottom dwellers; jawfish, and maybe a blenny. 3rd wave, once the SPS has grown in, or I add rock towers (if my SPS problem continues), will be the schooling fish, and those that have an intimate relationship with SPS, like clown gobies. I think all in all I want 5-6 larger fish (tangs, the angel, wrasses) , 5-10 medium fish (smaller wrasses, etc), and probably 10-15 small fish (cardinals, gobies).

We'll take it as it goes and make changes as need. I'll definitely consider any fish. I saw a lookdown at the store today, and thought it was quite cool.


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