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SeaSerpant 01-14-2008 02:20 AM

I haven't made it yet. I'll post pics when i'm done.

SeaSerpant 01-14-2008 02:37 AM

I'll post the pics tommorow nite.

SeaSerpant 01-14-2008 07:21 AM

I couldn't sleep so here are the results.
(This what he says)
These tanks actually sat on top of each others glass work. It was actually pretty scary looking. If i recall correctly, there is 6 baffles on the sump
The tank is drilled with an overflow. The sump is also drilled for a return.

I have the stand results (bones and still rough draft till next week)Attachment 2256

Attachment 2257
I have better pictures but note the sticking out bar.

SeaSerpant 01-14-2008 07:27 AM

Anyone have google Sketchup. An thoughts?

SeaSerpant 01-14-2008 11:40 AM

McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Maximum Size: the Paracheilinus mccoskeri grows up to 4 inches.
General Size Specifications: This fish will come to you generally around 2 to 3 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The McCosker's Flasher Wrasse prefers a tank of at least 20 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Paracheilinus mccoskeri is a carnivore and likes to eat variety of meats (fish, scallop, shrimp, squid, clam).
Level of Care: The McCosker Flasher Wrasse is a medium maintenance fish.
Behavior: The McCosker Flasher Wrasse may act peacefully toward other fish.
Hardiness: This is a hardy fish.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).

Longnosed Hawkfish

Maximum Size: the Oxycirrhites typus grows up to 5 inches.
General Size Specifications: The small size will come to you generally 1 to 2 inches; the medium generally 2 to 3 inches; the large generally 3 to 5 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The Longnose Hawkfish prefers a tank of at least 20 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Oxycirrhites typus is a carnivore and likes to eat meaty treats (like feeder shrimp).
Level of Care: The Longnose Hawkfish is a low maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Longnose Hawkfish may act aggressively toward other fish.
Hardiness: This is a hardy fish.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).

Mandarin Goby

Maximum Size: The Pterosynchiropus splendidus grows up to 2.5 inches.
General Size Specifications: The small size will come to you generally 1 to 1½ inches; the medium generally 1½ to 2½ inches; the large generally 2½ to 4 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The Green Mandarin Goby prefers a tank of at least 20 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Pterosynchiropus splendidus is a carnivore and likes to eat mostly copepods in well established tanks. May learn to accept mysis shrimp and flakes with time and patience.
Level of Care: The Green Mandarin Goby is a high maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Green Mandarin Goby may act peacefully toward other fish.
Breeding: Able to breed.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).

Percula Clownfish

Maximum Size: the Amphiprion percula grows up to 3 inches.
General Size Specifications: The small size will come to you generally ¾ to 1¼ inches; the medium generally 1¼ to 2½ inches; the large generally 2½ to 4 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The True Percula Clown prefers a tank of at least 20 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Amphiprion percula is a omnivore and likes to eat variety of foods (meats & veggies).
Level of Care: The True Percula Clown is a medium maintenance fish.
Behavior: The True Percula Clown may act semi-aggressively toward other fish.
Breeding: Able to breed.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).

Magenta Dottyback

Maximum Size: the Pseudochromis porphyreus grows up to 3 inches.
General Size Specifications: This fish will come to you generally around 1 to 2 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The Strawberry/Purple Pseudochromis prefers a tank of at least 10 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Pseudochromis porphyreus is a carnivore and likes to eat variety of meat treats, Mysis Shrimp, prepared foods.
Level of Care: The Strawberry/Purple Pseudochromis is a low maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Strawberry/Purple Pseudochromis may act semi-aggressively toward other fish.
Hardiness: This is a hardy fish.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).

Lawnmower Blenny

Maximum Size: The Salarias fasciatus grows up to 5 inches.
General Size Specifications: The small size will come to you generally 1-1/2 - 2-1/2 inches, medium about 3 - 4 inches and large about 4 - 5 inches, not including the caudal fin.
Minimum Tank Size: The Lawnmower Blenny prefers a tank of at least 30 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Salarias fasciatus is a herbivore and likes to eat algae off the rocks, glass and sand, marine and spirulina algae, regular and veggie flake food, pellets and may eat mysis shrimp.
Level of Care: The Lawnmower Blenny is a medium maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Lawnmower Blenny may act peacefully (but may become territorial) toward other fish. Tends to dislike other Blennies with similar body type.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).

Thanks to http://marinedepotlive.com
Does that help?

kwirky 01-14-2008 06:16 PM

I would have "X" beams on those stands because a strong enough shove in any direction would make the stands snap apart and you'd have glass and water crashing on the floor. I'd have X supports on the back of each stand, and on the outer sides of the stands wherever possible.

SeaSerpant 01-15-2008 12:15 AM

I'm just doing a rough draft of everything. the actual thing will be done by a different person. Okay i just handed in a application form for tim hortons. if they take me i'll start a build thread.

SeaSerpant 01-15-2008 01:00 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Ok Here are some better pics of the tanks and sump and stand[ATTACH]Attachment 2264[/ATTACH]Attachment 2263

Edmonton Eskimo 01-15-2008 02:29 AM

I do believe that stand will be covered with plywood or something similar as the pics are just the skeleton. No cross bracing will be needed. The 2*4 construction skinned with plywood will be plenty strong.

SeaSerpant 01-16-2008 12:33 AM

Ok. so it would work. thanks. um. how much would it approximatly cost to make it like this with 2*4s plywood and paint?

SeaSerpant 01-16-2008 02:21 AM

Can someone tell me how much sand would i need? What kind of aroganite sand would i need. Sugar, .05 - .1,? Can someone tell me what i should feed all of the fish and coral and when to?

SeaSerpant 01-16-2008 02:39 AM

mflamb from reefcentral i had asked about the lights came up up with this
On your tank with those animals, I would make two 12 inch reflectors, and use 12K, 175 watt metal halide bulbs/reflectors, and put a T-5 actinic bulb in front and behind the metal halides. The color would be great and you would get good growth from the corals.

Anyone give me a template on how to make the reflectors. and where to get the materials?

VFX 01-16-2008 02:42 AM

Cost of stand?

Just calculate how much 2x2, 2x4 & how many ply panels you'll need (add some extra in case you need it) and head down to your local DIY store. to price it up.

Then add cost of finishing & joining & anything else you might need (varnish, nails, screws, handles, hinges, adhesives, tools etc.)

As for what to feed your fish & when?

Hope I don't sound condescending but, judging by the nature of this question, I'd be sure to do more research on every single bit of livestock you plan on getting.

And then research some more.

oh & I wouldn't reccommend a Mandarin Goby for a newly set up tank. Especially a 60g one!

.

michika 01-16-2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSerpant (Post 294552)
mflamb from reefcentral i had asked about the lights came up up with this
On your tank with those animals, I would make two 12 inch reflectors, and use 12K, 175 watt metal halide bulbs/reflectors, and put a T-5 actinic bulb in front and behind the metal halides. The color would be great and you would get good growth from the corals.

Anyone give me a template on how to make the reflectors. and where to get the materials?

You could also just order a batwing reflector from somewhere like J&L and put both bulbs in that. 175w bulbs are great, however just so you know not everyone carries them all the time. Cheapest place to get them is either J&L or Hidden Reef.

Bulbs that are more yellow-white, in the 10k range will give you better growth but most everything will be brown/green-brown, bulbs that are more blue, in the 20k range will give you brighter colors, but they will be mostly purples and blues. Most people aim for a 12-15k bulb to maximize both growth and color. Really though its all about personal prefernce.

Are you going to suppliment your MH lighting?

SeaSerpant 01-17-2008 12:04 AM

what do you mean by supplement?

Brent F 01-17-2008 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSerpant (Post 294731)
what do you mean by supplement?

Use another light such as actinics with your metal halides to suplement the colour range

SeaSerpant 01-17-2008 12:17 AM

Hey. yah i was going to do that to.
Quote:

mflamb from reefcentral i had asked about the lights came up up with this On your tank with those animals, I would make two 12 inch reflectors, and use 12K, 175 watt metal halide bulbs/reflectors, and put a T-5 actinic bulb in front and behind the metal halides. The color would be great and you would get good growth from the corals.
here is a pic of what hes done. How do you post more pictures than you "quota".

Brent F 01-17-2008 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSerpant (Post 294737)
How do you post more pictures than you "quota".

Delete some old ones or use photobucket

SeaSerpant 01-17-2008 12:58 AM

Thanks brent f. Okay here are the pics. http://s252.photobucket.com/pbwidget...t/c3545a67.pbw
Ok that is the lights for mflamb's tank. Here is the link to his build page for the lights http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...&pagenumber=12

Ok can anyone put the best brands they think would be good for a

70g skimmer

Pump(for flow)

Pump(for sump)

Salt

Heater

Anything i missed

Thanks
SeaSerpant

VFX 01-17-2008 02:00 AM

Best Salt

Skimmers 01

Skimmers 02

Heaters

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SeaSerpant 01-17-2008 02:15 AM

If i put a 250watt heater in my sump would it do the job? Thanks. any more.

VFX 01-17-2008 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSerpant (Post 294764)
If i put a 250watt heater in my sump would it do the job? Thanks. any more.

I would use 2 150w heaters instead of one 250w.

Also I'd use a controller instead of relying on the heaters built in thermostat.

Others may do it differently but I found that way has always worked for me.

.

michika 01-17-2008 04:50 PM

You may want to start a tank journal thread. It will allow people to keep up with your progress, comment, and offer you suggestions.

As for pumps, do you know what kind of return & flow you are going for? I noticed you said you wanted clams, and corals. I would first figure out how your going to return the water from your sump to your display. Some suggestions are a manifold, closed loop.

I personally like the Reeflo pumps (reeflopumps.com) because you can dial them back, and they are reasonably efficient when it comes to energy.

I also second the suggestion to use two heaters over one. It has saved me at least once.

You are smart to choose a skimmer above your expected capacity. Go big, its worth it, especially when your tank becomes more established and the bioload increases. I've only ever used 3 brand-name skimmers, so I don't have any recommendations for you. I run an Octopus right now and it does well, but I'm unsure how it would work on a larger system like yours. Watch the buy/sell forums for DIY skimmers, sometimes they are both cheap and extrememly well functioning.

SeaSerpant 01-18-2008 01:18 AM

Thanks for all the help. VFX i took your advice and made a build thread. If i need further help this is where you can help me http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=38703
Thanks again
SeaSerpant


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