Do you think a baby naso about 1-2 inches would be ok in my tank because im pritty sure a 65 is 3 feet long like my tank

Mytank is 4ft long

48*16*18

and no i dont because they need lots of room to swim. I know for a fact my tank is to small for my naso. That why i just bought the 6ft tank.

But to each is own. a baby will be ok in that tank, but only till it gets a certain size and you will tell by the attitude of the fish as it gets reallly testy, like its getting clostrophobic.

I am no expert, this is just what i have observed through my reefing expierience

Good thread, good advice and it is nice to see a new reefer ask for advice before they buy the fish. You will be a really sucessful reefer.

Trust me. Tangs are a fish you really get attached too. You will not be able to trade it in and it will suffer in a small tank as soon as it grows which for a tang is really fast.

The reason you need a large tank is because tangs are swimmers. They like the length a 6 foot tank gives them as they motor back and forth. Those who upgrade to a large tank really notice the difference.

Wayne Ryan

Angel Fish
 

With a 46gal tank, like has been said your better off going with the small angels Flame....Coral Beauty [ Pigmy ] I have both and no corals have been touched

If you go to Ron's 120 Reef...last page you will see a few of my fish...
red one is a Flame Angel

Today I whent to Ocean Aquatics an Janet said a naso(baby) would be fine in my tank.

well then that seems to be the answer you were looking for....take what you've learned and it is time to make a descision.

You know why don't you just get used to the fact that none of us are going to tell you it is okay. The fish store is of course going to tell you it is okay because they want to sell it. They are in the bussiness of selling fish to uneducated buyers. They need to make a living to.
But like dogboy2365 said here it is time to make a decision. I think you will make the right choice. They are some other beautifull fish out there that are not tangs. You just need to look for them.

Craig

Start planning for that bigger tank...a lot of fish stores just want to make a sale...these fish grow fast and need lots of swimming room
That said it's your choice...good luck

And.... you said earlier how you were thinking of trading in the naso when it grew to big for your tank..... remember that when you buy something and decide to trade it in to the LFS you will get only a small portion of what it is actually worth in trade... you will not get to trade a maturing naso for a juvy naso..... trust me from personal experience you will not get even half of what it is actually worth ... as findingnemo1 and redrover both so acurately stated above.... the LFS is just trying to make money so there is not chance of getting back your money ..... this seems like a poorly though out and uninformed money losing scheme....

dosent someone on Canreef here have the quote in their signature that says they are going to start banging their head against a wall while burning 100 dollar bills for their next hobby... lol... that just came to mind for some reason... lol

One point I should have mention, how I learned, I asked a lot of questions
then went on line and checked out the fish I liked, this way you learn from reefer friends plus the net,which will help in making hopefully the right choice

He's asked for advice and was given this. I think he shouldn't troll now.

whatever
 

- buddy how many tanks do u own? cuz the way ur talkin', I'd think u own a portion of the vancouver aquarium! -no offense or anything but that's the way ur soundin' lmaox10, sad si ti ''kool'' dude! lol:question:
ps: good luck with the nano...lol brate

Have we answered your question or are you still unconvinced that you should NOT get a large tang for your 46g?

bv reefer
 

Hey man time to cool off...everyone here have been doing there best to help new reefer's like Mik 101, I think you should do the same as it will save a lot of heart ache

WOW!

I am so glad you joined Canreef so that you could participate in thoughtful and constructive disscussion about a hobby everyone here loves.

Maybe i did not use enough smiley faces in my message?

:wink:

im just curious... what did that mean?

id tell you what i think of the naso trade plan, but you might as well just go read the other posts.

is there anything constructive in this reply?

I am on board with everyone else in their interest in Mik_101's question and I think he would appreciate keeping it on topic and NOT having people insulting the other people on the board...if the topic goes the way it is with insulting people then the mods will close down the thread...I think the thread has had some good interest to it....hard to say if the advice will be followed or not but it has sparked some great discussion!

Just so you know it's really hard to give up a tang once you have it. We had a Scopas tang that we tried to add to our 120 however our yellow tang did not like that at all (should of known better but I thought we could try) We ended up having to put the Scopas in our 30g :eek: After a couple of weeks we convinced our friend with a 90g to take our scopas tang. We knew we couldn't keep him in a 30g and even though we can still visit the tang it was hard as hell to give him up:sad: Just my .02 thanks Laurie

bv_reefer and Mik_101 are cousins, I believe.

Yep Moogled they are cousins from other posts I have read.....

I agree they are so hard to give up..I have a Naso in my 150g and he is a pet...I can't imagine giving him up and hopefully I won't have to as I think I am pushing the limit with him in my tank.....(not because of bioload but length of the tank)

:evilbat: Yes, please discuss it in a civilized manner.

Lots of good advice posted here. Although larger is better for most tangs, if one insists on having one in a smaller aquarium, then perhaps something like a scopas.

I still like the idea of a pygmy angel, perhaps a coral beauty, which are usually reef safe but like all angels, can turn on corals. Many tangs also can develop a taste for some corals.

My 45g cube, has a mated pair of "now breeding", almost 4 yrs. old percs and a lawnmower blennie. Thats it, except for the cleaner wrasse, {eats mysis}, that another aquarists had to remove because he nips at clams.

I would like to add another smaller colourful fish, but have not decided yet. Like most aquarists, I also love tangs, and even let the thought of a scopas in my cube, cross my mind, but decided it was the best to leave them be.

As you mentioned, they are in smaller aquariums now than ours, but once we purchase them, they will be replaced. I dont know how the trading in would go once they are larger. I have sold or given several away to larger homes, for various reasons but never purchased one with the intent of trading it in at a later date.

Anyways, not much more advice we can offer. Hope some of this helps.

Wow im realy surprised on how many posts I would get under this thread. Some I like some i defenetly i dont like... The thing is about tangs ther probably my favorite saltwater fish and ther is not one tang I can keep witch makes me whant to get 100g system(in my dreams) but honestly is ther tank of any kind i can keep...yellow tang, naso tang (just kidding. i wish),kole or scopas tang.

In the 46g, no. Sorry dude. There are just so many other choices out there that are a better fit. Get the bigger tank first, then get the fish to put in it - not the other way around. It's a bitter pill to swallow sometimes when we get it in our heads that we want a certain something and we'll surely be able to "upgrade later" - but it's better for you, it's better for the livestock, and it's better for the hobby in general, when you do the right thing. We've all had to do it (ie. make some tough choices.) Stick with what you can do comfortably, and you will save yourself a lot of trouble.

next, are you going to ask if a grouper is ok

grouper
 

-don't even joke about a grouper lol, don't give any ideas

Ro/di
 

-I just started deionizing some water for my 33-gallon as i'm starting
it next week and was wondering if I needed 2 deionize all 33 gallons
or just 15-20 gallons?

Ya im going to get a groper :neutral: lol

Ok i hoestly think I got over that I whant a tang(:cry: :cry: )so my "new" fish I have in mind is a lemon peal angle.
Sorrey to bring this up agine but I have seen a ton of people that have yellow tangs in ther 30 gallon tank.(just wanted you guys to be awere of it)Also the seem that they ae happier in someones 30 G tank that in the 100g in the LFS.

All I know is that it was horrible to watch our poor scopas tang trying to swim around in our tiny 30g, he kept bumping into the sides:sad: . He is sooooooo much happier (swims back and forth with freedom) in our friends 90g. As extremely difficult as it was to let him go, I feel better knowing that he has more space to move around in. Really when it comes down to it don't we all want what's best for our pets? I know I do, even if it means not getting what I want.

For example I had an opportunity to buy a sohal tang (which is our dream fish) but unfortunately I know these fish will not do well in less than a minimum of 300g. Since we only have a 120g in good conscience I could not buy this fish, knowing that I did not have a proper home for it. So trust me when I say that even though it's difficult, resit the urge until you have the right amount of space for the fish to be TRULY (not just seem) happy in. Thanks Laurie OMG I think I just became a member (sort of) of the tang police squad lol BTW lemon peel angels are really nice and a much better choice until you can get a larger tank

When we 1st started this hobby a little over a year ago we dreamed of one day having a 100g+ tank and honestly I never thought it would happen. However we now own a 120g so hang in there you might just get a 100g yet, ya never know what the future holds :biggrin: Although I must admit now I would like a 300g+ funny how that works eh?

I have a lemon peel angel...they're great! Very colorful and lively!

for a small tank for angels there is potters, flame, coral Beauty, rusty, lemon peel, bi color, pygmy angel. I ahve a kole tang that Doug used to own I have him in my 120 he love to graze constantly however, I believe that he was better in my 170 with the lavender....

What are the chaces he will nip at my cirals?

50/50. all dwarf angels are risky but coral beauty is the least likely to nip. lemon peels are pretty bad as far as dwarves go but who knows.

my Lemon Peel is in my FOWLR......there are some GSP and a few Paly's that it doesn't bother but I wouldn't trust it with anything I like as far as corals go...if it was a problem I'd hate to try to take it out....another really good one is a Cherub Pygmy Angel...small and lots of color...usually fairly safe with corals...but it's still an Angel...I had no trouble with mine
here's a pic for you to see what it looks like

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...upa/Cherub.jpg

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/tangs/nasotang/
Hmm maybe I will get a naso tang scince on thins site they say it needs a minimum of 55g

we have already stated our opinions. if you prefer to trust a source that is trying to SELL you the fish no matter the cost (it's not like they care about the fish's well being once it's out of their hands) over the unbiased views that we have presented, then so be it.

Oh never realy looked at it that way.:rolleyes:

it is stated right in the description :
http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/tangs/nasotang/

" it is important to provide it with plenty of swimming space. It also needs suitable hiding places. "
55gal is not even close for this kind of fish IMO.