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niloc16 12-21-2006 10:41 PM

i'm stoked i just got a phone call that my controller will be at the store in a couple hours and i got one with the wireless LAN. i've been waiting since the beginning of september for this unit. i guess christmas will have to wait now since i'll be to busy with the controller. my wife would love that. i'll post more when i get it.

support@proline 12-21-2006 11:35 PM

Good stuff colin
You will be very impressed ,let me know if you have any questions ,shoot me a pm or email.
Jason

SuperFudge 12-22-2006 04:22 AM

Thats Sweet Colin,

Fire some pics up when you get it wired.

Looks like ill have to hard wire mine, so that means youll have to keep us up to date on the wireless features and capabilities.


Marc.

niloc16 12-22-2006 08:34 AM

i'm really REALLY hoping tomorrow i can hook it up and start playing with it. its going to take a year to learn how to run this thing. i'll update you guys as soon as i get some pictures and installs done.

bullit67 12-23-2006 01:23 AM

Merry Christmas too me Merry Christmas too me

I picked up my ProfiLux plus II last night I am in the midst of setting it up right now so far so good LAN card and redux/Cond card are now installed just have to figure out where to put it that it is out of harms way pritty sweet setup And I have to figure out what the heck the clear plastic rod and plastic brackets are supposed to be for ?????? Oh well guess I will figure it out at some point

Doug

niloc16 12-23-2006 01:34 AM

today i finally got to open it up and check everything out, i installed the wireless LAN and redox card, and installed the drivers on my computer but ran out of time to try out the controller with my computer. i took some pictures of the whole setup right out of the box and for the install of the new cards.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/100_0908.jpg

here is before the cards installed
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/100_0909.jpg

and after
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/100_0910.jpg

and the final product

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/100_0913.jpg

i'll post more as i do the install. i am a little disappointed in the amount of outlets on the powerbars. i have to buy another power bar and an adapter for only 1 more plug but the power bars seem very heavy duty so thats a bonus. when i first turned on the controller everything is in german as well as the cd install for the computer, i guessed my way through the driver install on the computer and found an english button.

bullit67 12-23-2006 07:21 PM

well I got the power bars mounted and a good place for the computer a few little things I think they could improve on more expation slots only 3 and with the redox/cond card and LAN card installed that only leaves one left to work with and there is no mounts included for the probes at least a hand full of suction cups would be nice to get you going and had the same problem as Colin I cant read German so had to fumble around till I got lucky and found the language selection the probes seam to be top quality more to come later will try and get some pics up soon

Doug

OH yah i figured out what the plastic rod is for it is a braket for the float for water leavel ( thanks to Jason from Proline for confirming this)

support@proline 12-23-2006 11:42 PM

Thanks for the pictures colin.
1-The reason that there is no suction cups on probes ,these are not hobby probes ,labgrade probes usually don't come with suction cups ,as they are not mass produced specially for aquarium industry.
2-As for more outlets ,you can have up to 24 outlets in total on profilux ,which I believe is more than enough for any size quarium.
There will be another version of powerbars with 6 outlets comming in January ,you will be able to daisy chain them together for more outlets ,therefor they do not require an extra card or occupy a nother slot.
The reason there are 2 x 4 outlets per bar rather than 1 x 8 outlet per bar with the package is that this way you are able to draw almost twice out of the 2 bars rather than 1 bar with 8 sockets ,given that each bar handles 15 amps.
As what you have now with the controller ,you alraedy have ph/temp /multiple level sonsors ,redox ,conductivity , tunze pump control ,light dimming ,computer /internet connected ,timer programs ,moon cycles ,seasonal light control ,data logging ,alarms ,fish therapy programs ,led control capability,Multiple failsafe features ,......................& external view module.
Plus all that you are left with another slot as well.I am not sure what else you would like to contol
also they have bluetooth ,disolved oxygen ,ca & nitrates ,in D/D right now ,which as you see they have combo cards ,so each slot is able to handle multiple functions.
Also the other thing we can do if you did use (unlikely )all the slots & wanted to have more modules ( forexample in case you were controlling multiple tanks),we can chain another profilux as an extension to your currect controller ,as some other units have multiple card extensions.you have to get for this purpose.
Price of the extension profilux without any extra card is very reasonable & alraedy comes with more ph ,temp ,multiple level control capability ,another 24 sockets control ,....
Also the other thing you have to keep in mind is the quality of the unit ,the powerbar & the probes.
Unit has 2 year warranty,the programming is super easy & not near as many bugs or problems other known systems have .
when you are using a controller ,what is most important is that IT HAS TO BE RELIABLE WITH MULTIPLE FAILSAFE FUNCTIONS.
which is what you get with profilux is reliability.
Also the internal battery that does not need replacing like some others ,each outlet is on its own fuse wich is changable ,if one fail only that function is disabled rather than the whole bar & many more advantages over other brands.
BTW ,there is english manual included in the package ,best of what I remeber there is the set up process & language selection inthere .
Enjoy your new toys :mrgreen:

bullit67 12-23-2006 11:53 PM

Thanks for the reply Jason Dont get me wrong this unit is top quality just giving you some feed back. I already have a prototype made up for a rack to hold all the probes I understand they are very high quality but if someone that isant a do it yourselfer might have a hard time making something. Nice to hear that they are coming out with a power bar that can be dasiy chained instead of taking up a slot if they are looking at doing bluetooth for sensors in the future then we wont need any more slots

Doug

niloc16 12-24-2006 01:18 AM

i agree with doug, i'm not putting the unit down, just stating some issues i've seen so far so people have a heads up. one thing that i absolutely love is the amount of back up safety features there is in this unit. for example overheating, you can setup the unit for parameters of your heaters to turn off at a certain temperature, if that temp is breached then you can program dimmable lighting to be reduced a certain percentage per .5 degrees increase that the temperature climbs and then eventually turn all lighting off to further reduce heat or without dimmable lighting you can have it turn halides off one a time. i mean if you had a chiller the unit would also turn it on to reduce temperature but if you dont this are just a few of options you have, in addition they have fans that can be controlled by this unit that are variable speed and depending on the temperature increase the controller will increase the fan speed. i seen these fan units and they are gorgeous, and the most quiet fans i've ever heard. i'll be getting a 4 fan unit in a couple months i think once i get the controller setup. this unit can also to an extent control the ph of tank. if the ph decreases to much it will cut of co2 to your reactor if you have an electric solenoid attached to your co2 regulator.

question though jason, will one powerbar handle 2 400w metal halide or will a fuse blow in the powerbar, i heard that it will only handle one halide unit each. i'm going to run 3 400w and i was thinking of splitting them up onto seperate circuits but if i dont have to then i will run 2 off one powerbar. until i get another powerbar.

SuperFudge 12-24-2006 03:50 PM

Merry Christmas you reefgeeks !

Colin, yes the power bar will run as many halides as you have sockets, but just cant exceed the 1500 w rating in total.

You cant however, exceed 400w of halide per outlet, this will blow the internal fuse for that individual socket.
In my case i had 6 halides, 4 PC`s, and Led`s...so i had run a powerbar off of one of the outlets from the profilux, and tried to have more than one halide kick on with the use of one outlet...this was popping the fuses, this confused me becuase i wasnt running more than the 1500w total.

I asked Mattias (profilux designer) at Macna about this, and he said on any other type of light it is ok to exceed the 400w per outlet, such as t-5 or pc...but since the coil in halides actually draw way more than that on startup, its too hard on the internal fuse todeal with that power draw all at once.

Marc.

niloc16 12-24-2006 07:21 PM

merry xmas to you to marc,

thanks for the info. i've been trying to get the computer to communicate with the controller wirelessly for about 5 hours last night, and i must say it almost turned into a frizbee. i cant get it to work. when i use the serial cable it came with it works great, but with the WLAN, no chance. the computer states there is no device found. i'm going to attempt to try it again today but there may be a cheap controller for sale tonight. just kidding. i just hate fighting with computers.

SuperFudge 12-24-2006 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niloc16 (Post 226387)
merry xmas to you to marc,

thanks for the info. i've been trying to get the computer to communicate with the controller wirelessly for about 5 hours last night, and i must say it almost turned into a frizbee. i cant get it to work. when i use the serial cable it came with it works great, but with the WLAN, no chance. the computer states there is no device found. i'm going to attempt to try it again today but there may be a cheap controller for sale tonight. just kidding. i just hate fighting with computers.

Wouldnt happen to be a Linksis wireless router would it ?

bullit67 12-24-2006 08:09 PM

Colin

You do have a wireless network set up in your house From what I understand you need to have a wireless network up and running it wont go directly to your wireless computer it needs a router to work.

Just incase you didnt know

Then again I could be wrong as I have a LAN card and I beleive it needs to be conected to a router

Merry Christmas

Doug

niloc16 12-24-2006 08:26 PM

it is not a linksys router. i have a wireless network going already. i was trying again for about an hour, and no luck again. thanks though

bullit67 12-24-2006 10:27 PM

Marc

Do these things not work well with linksys routers ? or maybe not at all

Doug

Skimmerking 12-24-2006 10:43 PM

I to have a wireless ,not to insult you but you have to make sure that the address on the router is matching up with the address on your system. I found that out the hard way. I it wouldn't let me in until my brother told me about the address key..

good luck

and happy christmas

niloc16 12-24-2006 10:53 PM

how the hell do you match the addresses?

bullit67 12-26-2006 10:31 PM

Colin

have you tryed looking in the communication menu and set it to LAN it looks like it is set defualt to the serial port

niloc16 12-26-2006 11:28 PM

i've done that with not luck what so ever. i found the wlan tutuorial on the disc and tried to follow it but when i get to the step where you use the LAN/WLAN connnection tool the screen pops up searching for the unit and it states 0 connected. if anyone has another idea i'm really open for suggestions.

Ruth 12-27-2006 01:25 AM

So if someone were looking for a really good deal on one of these controllers now would be a good time to see if you want to sell or give it away? JK
Sorry I can't offer any advise Colin - I am a total idiot when it comes to computors and stuff.
I really hope you get it figured out as from all the reviews they are supposed to work really well.

niloc16 12-27-2006 01:54 AM

i dont have a problem with the controller itself, it works amazing but the wireless feature is a PITA. if you were here trying to help me hook it up and it still didnt work then i would probably give it to you ruth. JK. one day maybe i'll get it to go

bullit67 12-27-2006 02:32 AM

Colin

have you hooked your lights up too it yet? If so what kind of lights are you running are they just switched or are you dimming them? I had one of my atinics stay on the other day the indicator light on the power bar was off but the out let still had power when the cycle came around again in the AM for the lights to come on and off they turned off and have worked fine ever since then So if you ever have this problem let it run through the cycle and see if it corrects it self

Later

Doug

niloc16 12-27-2006 02:37 AM

thanks for the info doug, as of now i have nothing connected to it. i've been fighting the bloody thing to get it to connected wirelessly to the computer so until i figure that out i cant install it under the stand. lucky me.

bullit67 12-27-2006 03:05 AM

I mounted mine on top of my cap for now as I want to keep it away from all the moisture and salt from the sump because as you probly noticed when you put your cards in it is not a sealed unit and I can just imagine what a few years of salt would do to the inside of it once I build my tank utility room in the basement and move my sump down there I will move it and even then it will be in a sealed cabinet to protect it

Doug

niloc16 12-27-2006 04:19 AM

ok guys i need some help, finally i have some communication between the controller and the computer but during setup it now wants to me manually assign an ip address. it states to never select auto ip address. but i dont have a clue how to manual assign an ip. i typed in the ip address of the computer but the setup says that the ip is already in use by the computer. PLEASE help if you have any clue what to do

Psyire 12-27-2006 05:27 AM

I don't have much experience with wireless networking but if you need to manually assign an IP just pick an address 1 different from your computers.

eg.
computer: 192.168.0.1
controller: 192.168.0.2

niloc16 12-27-2006 07:13 AM

i think this is where maybe i was going wrong, i was altering a number in the first and second set of numbers. thanks for the help. i'll let you know tomorrow if it works. it would have been nice to have someone jump up from profilux and help me out here.

niloc16 12-27-2006 11:11 PM

well i finally got the unit configured to my computer but assuming i have made a small mistake or missing something because when i try to connect now it cannot find the unit and says to check settings and ports. the advice you guys gave on the ip address worked. i setup the redirector and followed the instructions but the unit will not connect.

albert_dao 12-28-2006 02:53 AM

Swing ding! I just got my Profilux!

Now all I need is a tank...

niloc16 12-28-2006 04:48 AM

a tank will help albert!

albert_dao 12-28-2006 06:30 AM

I know :(

I'm waiting on the delivery of my new tank. From there, I'll need to figure out a sump. I don't expect to have anything running for another month or so. Until then, I'll probably use a friend's tank to test the unit out.

niloc16 12-28-2006 07:14 AM

are you running it in the store or at home? what size are you doing? maybe i missed the input but i never heard you were starting a new tank.

albert_dao 12-28-2006 07:17 AM

It'll be for home use. As far as the tank goes, I have a Starphire 36 x 28 x 28 being built. The stand for it is already done and I'm just waiting to get everything in the room so I can figure out the sump and the water mixing stations.

I'm going to pimp out on the equipment where I can and this is one of the investments I've made towards that. Truth be told... I think I enjoy equipment more than livestock, haha.

niloc16 12-28-2006 06:00 PM

sounds good, should have a thread going for the build. make sure you take lots of pictures

adidas 12-28-2006 10:32 PM

nice controller

all I have is this: http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/s...oduct_ID=np-12

Chin_Lee 12-28-2006 11:59 PM

Prices
 
Will somebody or can anybody please post up retail prices for this controller and its accessories?
I am interested in getting a controller but I just can't figure out how much its going to cost me. There must be a list somewhere......

zulu_principle 12-29-2006 12:21 AM

Hey Chin

Try Here

http://oceanaquatics.com/store/categ...m-Controllers/


Wendell

Chin_Lee 12-29-2006 12:28 AM

nice
 
nice Wendell. thanks

bullit67 12-30-2006 10:34 PM

Well Chin I see in your profile that you are a Garbage Man. I am glad I am not the only one here who do you work for ? Resi, Front load, Roll off, ?

Doug


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