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Midknight 08-03-2006 09:32 PM

Hey Robb,

Check out Craigslist.com Lots of free stuff.
Have picked up lots of used/abused tanks and disasembed for parts.:wink:

albert_dao 08-03-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbAdams
Next question, How much would this cost me? Sans Zoevit (Sorry Albert, Im not sold on this yet) . I guess I could probably find a beat up old 25 gallon on buy'n'sell. Nah, I don't really know how to drill it, and I would still have to source all the rest of the glass to build the bafles etc.

I am still confused, I thought the baffles had to be before the snapper in order to prevent microbubbles from the skimmer getting pumped back into the display?


The baffles are only at the drain. I've found that EuroReef skimmers produce almost zero microbubbles. If you are running into problems with micro bubbles, it's just a matter of making a bridge from the outlet of the ER into the initial drain compartment.

RobbAdams 08-09-2006 04:59 AM

OK I am not really interested in moving up to an ER skimmer right away, as I have a coralife needlewheel skimmer to try first.:biggrin:

I have decided to move the sump to beside the tank instead of underneath it. The space there is not really any bigger but I have no overhead clearance issues, so it will be easier to get at , and hopefully will be a less daunting task for maintenance which should increase the chances of me keeping up with it.:redface:

What is the main advantage of an External return pump , instead of an internal MAG type? It just seems that plumbing an in sump return pump would be a lot easier?

Robb

Delphinus 08-09-2006 05:05 AM

Externals transfer less heat to the tank, if nothing else. Not sure if there are other benefits. I guess if space is at a premium in the tank because of, say for example, using an insump skimmer, heater, baffles, etc. etc., then maybe external would be easier to work with, but then you have to deal with the plumbing and the space considerations for outside the sump. Six of one, half dozen of the other. I have two tanks right now and one of each, and to be honest I don't see any advantage that one has over the other in a "slam dunk" sense, I mean they each sort of work in their own way.

albert_dao 08-09-2006 06:02 AM

Externals usually have much better tolerances to backpressure, at least the ones I work with do.

Fish 08-09-2006 08:56 PM

Robb,

Are you not getting my PM's?
If you have changed your mind, at least let me know so I can sell it to someone else...

- Chad

RobbAdams 08-09-2006 10:02 PM

pm'd you fish, sorry.

RobbAdams 08-17-2006 03:18 PM

so just a bit of an update, perhaps I will add some pictures this evening.

The tank is up and running, and the sump will be online this weekend I hope.

Equipment update is as follows:

-90 gallon Tank (Thanks Keith)
-220 Gallon Super Skimmer(Thanks Keith)
-Coralife Lunar Aqualight(Thanks Keith)
-175 watt 10,000k Ushio MH (Future upgrade being evaluated)
-Gen-x PCX-40 (MAK 4) for return (Thanks Rahim)
-Tunze 6080 for flow
-Eductors and locline will be here on friday for the dual return
-got most of my plumbing supplies for the return (Thanks Albert)
-RO/DI , 100GPD (Thanks Keith)
-CS-150 (1600GPH) oveflow with Aqualifter (Thanks Keith)

Things I still need:

-Sump, I think I have a line on a couple for tonight:mrgreen:
-Heater
-Plumbing for overflow(Anyone see a problem with using Flex line for this?)
-water topoff unit (perhaps plumbed directly to my RO/DI)


Any further tips , suggestions feel free to post.

andrewsk 08-17-2006 04:01 PM

Hey Robb,

As soon as I get my aquatronica set up I will be hooking up my 2 500 watt heaters and I should have a spare.

As for the Water Top off. I am not sure I would plumb it to my RO/DI. It CAN be setup using a float to go from the RO/DI if you wanted, or even into the topoff bucket, then the tank but here is the scary part :)

If your float ever screws up, you have an endless overfow potential from the RO/DI.

If you just hook the water top off to a 5 gallon bucket, the worst that could happen if there is a malfunction is the 5 extra gallons of water gets pumped into the tank.



Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbAdams
so just a bit of an update, perhaps I will add some pictures this evening.

The tank is up and running, and the sump will be online this weekend I hope.

Equipment update is as follows:

-90 gallon Tank (Thanks Keith)
-220 Gallon Super Skimmer(Thanks Keith)
-Coralife Lunar Aqualight(Thanks Keith)
-175 watt 10,000k Ushio MH (Future upgrade being evaluated)
-Gen-x PCX-40 (MAK 4) for return (Thanks Rahim)
-Tunze 6080 for flow
-Eductors and locline will be here on friday for the dual return
-got most of my plumbing supplies for the return (Thanks Albert)
-RO/DI , 100GPD (Thanks Keith)
-CS-150 (1600GPH) oveflow with Aqualifter (Thanks Keith)

Things I still need:

-Sump, I think I have a line on a couple for tonight:mrgreen:
-Heater
-Plumbing for overflow(Anyone see a problem with using Flex line for this?)
-water topoff unit (perhaps plumbed directly to my RO/DI)


Any further tips , suggestions feel free to post.


albert_dao 08-17-2006 04:07 PM

Hey Keith, did you already get the Aquatronica?

RobbAdams 08-17-2006 04:28 PM

good point on the ATO, sound like I should forgo that. Keep me informed on the heater issue. You are becomming my LFS:mrgreen:

Robb

albert_dao 08-17-2006 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsk
Hey Robb,

As soon as I get my aquatronica set up I will be hooking up my 2 500 watt heaters and I should have a spare.

As for the Water Top off. I am not sure I would plumb it to my RO/DI. It CAN be setup using a float to go from the RO/DI if you wanted, or even into the topoff bucket, then the tank but here is the scary part :)

If your float ever screws up, you have an endless overfow potential from the RO/DI.

If you just hook the water top off to a 5 gallon bucket, the worst that could happen if there is a malfunction is the 5 extra gallons of water gets pumped into the tank.


Another option is to get a dual sensor solenoid top off on a controller.

andrewsk 08-17-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbAdams
good point on the ATO, sound like I should forgo that. Keep me informed on the heater issue. You are becomming my LFS:mrgreen:

Robb

And who said there was no store in the South!!!!!!!!

RobbAdams 08-17-2006 04:57 PM

that Tunze is amazing, I had to turn off the light in "disgust" after I turned it on and it stirrred up all that crap in my "cleaned" tank. Skimmer cup produced about a week worth of dark skimate when I got up this morning

(In my best robert duval voice:)

"I love the smell of skimate in the morning."

Robb

andrewsk 08-17-2006 05:09 PM

Robb,

Post some pics of the tank. I am dying to my old baby in action.

albert_dao 08-17-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbAdams
that Tunze is amazing, I had to turn off the light in "disgust" after I turned it on and it stirrred up all that crap in my "cleaned" tank. Skimmer cup produced about a week worth of dark skimate when I got up this morning

(In my best robert duval voice:)

"I love the smell of skimate in the morning."

Robb


Was I right or was I right?

RobbAdams 08-18-2006 02:57 AM

OK I was down at my local RONA Store, and was haing trouble finding the fittings I need for my drain line, I am going with 1 1/2 inch drain to my sump. I found all the fittings I wanted in ABS with pipe instead of PVC. Does anyone forsee any problens with running the drain line using abs instead of PVC?

I am still running pvc for the return, and am aware that I need differentt glue for ABS.

Robb

albert_dao 08-18-2006 03:03 AM

I've done it. No problems. Just don't use primer. Primer melts ABS right quick.

Squiddy 08-18-2006 05:30 AM

You can't use the normal PVC glue either I don't think.

RobbAdams 08-18-2006 11:49 PM

OK Here is the first picture of something, this is the return line and is my first time working with PVC alos shown is part of the drain line. I can't finish until I get the tank for my sump from Keith (Wink, Wink, Nudge , Nudge).

I wish I kinew how to use my camera, this makes my tank look like an algae farm, the water does not look like this at all?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1535.jpg

and here is my CBB

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1536.jpg

Robb

RobbAdams 08-20-2006 05:41 AM

How do i build a durso for a 1.5 inch drain in my CPR. I have read that you need to use a larger pipe diameter, however I thing the next size up is 2". I don't think it would all fit inside. The gurgling noise is going to make my wife crazy Help.

Robb

RobbAdams 08-30-2006 12:10 AM

:mrgreen: well I think things are finaly almost finished after only 30 days I think I am close. I am still working on a lighting upgrade as I only was runing a single 175 MH over my old rig. and I need to build a proper canopy. Still wondering on the logistics of building a durso for a 1.5 inch drain. Will post some updated Pics Later tonight

midgetwaiter 08-30-2006 12:24 AM

Try a stockman style standpipe instead.

RobbAdams 08-30-2006 04:18 AM

Here are some pics of the setup as promised.

Full Tank shot:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1603.jpg

Sump Beside Tank:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1612.jpg

Current Ghetto lighting setup with halide only on one side of tank:redface:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1611.jpg

albert_dao 08-30-2006 04:20 AM

Yo Rob,

Check these out:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...5&pagenumber=1

RobbAdams 08-30-2006 04:25 AM

Line up at the local cleaning station:mrgreen:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1608.jpg

Candycanes that just don't seem to want to inflate as much as usual lately:question:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1618.jpg

Zoa Rock with some neat blue sponges growing in.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1620.jpg

RobbAdams 08-30-2006 04:27 AM

closer pic with my crappy 1 megapixel camera of Sponges:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...s/IMG_1628.jpg


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