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andrewsk 06-17-2006 08:53 PM

No worries. I am getting Starboard for the bottom of the tank.

andrewsk 06-17-2006 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws
Andrew,

Everything sounds great so far. The theory is great. I can't wait to see it in action. The only thing that stands out with me is that you don't want a back wall covered in coralline because it's distracting which I agree with. But using a starboard bottom will also cover in corraline. Is that what you'd prefer or do you want a more natural sand look? Myself, I really enjoy the bright white look a sandbed displays in a reef setup but prefer the benefits of a barebottom tank. Since you're already putting a lot of time and effort into planning and building this system, you may want to look into a false sandbed by glueing sand down on to the starboard. Just a suggestion but if it's done right it can give you the best of both worlds. I look forward to seeing your progress on this since I plan on building a very similar system in the near future. Good luck.

Yes the barebottom vs sand is a big question for me. I agree about not wanting coraline on the bottom, but even if I do a fake sand bed that will get covered as well.

For now, I am going with starboard and if I hate it ill add a 1/4 inch of sand and perhaps a goby.

We will see.

andrewsk 06-18-2006 03:21 AM

Well, my live rock arrived today. I currently have about 70 lbs of Deep Water Tonga in my 90 gallon so I re-odered another 70 as I love the look of it over the standard Fiji. It is more expensive but well worth it. I also have another 50 of Fiji rock to go under the Tonga.

I took it out of the box and placed it in one of my barrels of salt water. It will stay in here until some of the pollution is gone from it. After a few hours in the bucket I am glad I did this because MAN DOES IT STINK! My wife is not pleased. Just look:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1393Medium.jpg

I will be changing the water daily until this clears up a bit.

I also found the strangest creature lurking near the surface of my smelly mess. Anyone recognize this?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1397Medium.jpg

I also replaced the foam to the thicker 3/4" pink styrofoam and cut it out as per Alberts help.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1402Medium.jpg

Now I just need to get someone to lift the tank for me! Any takers? ;)

I also installed the bulkheads so that they can have a week to cure along with the tank.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1401Medium.jpg


The rest of the week will be plumbing the tank and refugium.

Snappy 06-18-2006 04:02 AM

This thread is timed beautifully as I am also in the process of getting ready to set up a new tank, quite by coincidence to those exact dimensions. I love the external overflow boxes, awesome idea; and those tunze powerhead rocks "rock". I will keep following your progress and may need to borrow a few of your ideas if you don't mind.

andrewsk 06-18-2006 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snappy
This thread is timed beautifully as I am also in the process of getting ready to set up a new tank, quite by coincidence to those exact dimensions. I love the external overflow boxes, awesome idea; and those tunze powerhead rocks "rock". I will keep following your progress and may need to borrow a few of your ideas if you don't mind.

Not at all. Who is making your tank?

niloc16 06-18-2006 10:01 AM

where are you from? i'm in mission bc, i can help lift it if you are near by

albert_dao 06-18-2006 03:42 PM

Hey Keith,

There's no silicone lubricating any of the O-rings is there? Cause if there is, you're going to have to cut it all out and replace the O-rings.

Montana 06-18-2006 04:35 PM

andrewsk where did you get the strainer for your bulk head. I am guessing golds. also i just set up a 150 gal tank that golds made for me with a silent overflow as well and it is the quitest tank i have heard, your tank is looking good.

andrewsk 06-18-2006 05:00 PM

Most of my stuff is from Golds yes. I am going to ask albert for some advise on the overflows. I have been reading up on the Durso Overflows a lot this week and they seem to be pretty good as well. Ideally I would like to have the 2 outlets in each overflow run through seperate pipes (So 4 total) to the sump. That way, if there is ever a clog, the others can take over without a flood. I am still researching.

Albert,

No silicone on the O-rings itself. Just around the gap where the bulkhead did not go snug to the glass.

Out of curiosity, why not put silicone on the O-Ring. Would it mess something up?

andrewsk 06-18-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niloc16
where are you from? i'm in mission bc, i can help lift it if you are near by

I am in Calgary, but thanks. I am going to have a few buddies over this week to lift it so I should be ok.

But if your ever in Calgary :)

G1GY 06-18-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsk
Out of curiosity, why not put silicone on the O-Ring. Would it mess something up?

The silicone acts as a lubricant and causes the rubber ring to squeeze out.

TheReefGeek 06-18-2006 10:54 PM

Lots of people seal the gasket with silicone, I don't think it is necessary thought.

albert_dao 06-19-2006 12:13 AM

The Durso is a waste of time with the overflows you have built into your tank. I'll show you how they work next time you're in.

Snappy 06-19-2006 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsk
Not at all. Who is making your tank?

Last time I was at Gold's Dennis said he would put a quote together. He needed to check on the starfire glass pricing I think. I will be going starfire on the front and sides. I will also get a quote from Wais, which is where I bought my present tank, Danny treats me pretty good; although so do Dennis & Albert. I never thought I would outgrow my 130 gallon in 18 months. Maybe you can come over some time and give me some ideas.:lol:

G1GY 06-19-2006 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReefGeek
Lots of people seal the gasket with silicone, I don't think it is necessary thought.

These same people have the gasket squeeze out from under the fitting. this is not an opinion, but rather what will happen when you put silicone on a rubber gasket. :)

andrewsk 06-19-2006 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snappy
Last time I was at Gold's Dennis said he would put a quote together. He needed to check on the starfire glass pricing I think. I will be going starfire on the front and sides. I will also get a quote from Wais, which is where I bought my present tank, Danny treats me pretty good; although so do Dennis & Albert. I never thought I would outgrow my 130 gallon in 18 months. Maybe you can come over some time and give me some ideas.:lol:


Sounds good to me. Feel free to let me know if you want to check anything out yourself. What size are you going for?

andrewsk 06-19-2006 05:46 AM

Here is a picture of me with my new skimmer that arrived today. :)


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...rewsk69/HS.jpg



Just kidding.

Richard_Dicosimo 06-19-2006 05:52 AM

and i thought i had a big skimmer :D

Richard

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...newskimmer.jpg

Snappy 06-19-2006 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsk
Sounds good to me. Feel free to let me know if you want to check anything out yourself. What size are you going for?

I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but it is exactly the same size as yours. 72x30x24
I might be able to go 31 deep, but any bigger and I can't get it downstairs unless I move (which I just might)
I would love to come and take a look. I think when the time comes to switch tanks I will be in a bit of trouble as there is a lot to move. I doubt I will need much if any new live rock as I have a tank full now. Encrusted corals and where to put the corals while I aquascape is what worries me.

Wow that is a big honkin' skimmer. Was that at some kind of a aquarium show or something?

andrewsk 06-19-2006 06:38 AM

Yes at the Interzoo 2006 in Germany. (I was not there) :)

Fell free to give me a PM any time. Probably best to wait a few weeks until I get my skimmer and lighting and some water in the tank!

andrewsk 06-19-2006 06:39 AM

Richard,

Nice skimmer. How big is your tank?

Is that a Big Al's price tag I see there?

Joe Reefer 06-19-2006 02:18 PM

That skimmer is freakin huge.

Richard_Dicosimo 06-19-2006 03:19 PM

That Skimmer is the big als skimmer, its the dual turbo floater 5000 with dual ocean runner pumps.
im actually in the process of setting up my tank aswell, its a 9'x2'x18" starfire tank. 200 gals, Garry is actually coming to silicone it back up for me tonight... it was to big to fit down the stairs so i thought i would cut it apart, long story short, front panel breaks, Garry gets new lino in his kitchen....



Richard

Joe Reefer 06-19-2006 03:55 PM

Richard I was talking about the other skimmer, but yours is no slouch either. :mrgreen:

Richard_Dicosimo 06-20-2006 01:53 AM

Its ok Joe Reefer i was replying to andrewsk anyways :P

Richard

Snappy 06-23-2006 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_Dicosimo
That Skimmer is the big als skimmer, its the dual turbo floater 5000 with dual ocean runner pumps.
im actually in the process of setting up my tank aswell, its a 9'x2'x18" starfire tank. 200 gals, Garry is actually coming to silicone it back up for me tonight... it was to big to fit down the stairs so i thought i would cut it apart, long story short, front panel breaks, Garry gets new lino in his kitchen....



Richard

I run the turbo floater 5000 "shorty" with the ocean runner pumps, never had room the the tall boy.

TheReefGeek 06-23-2006 03:42 AM

Is this a "who's got the biggest skimmer" :)

Im running an ASM G6 with 3 x Sedra 9000 pumps.

I love you skimmer! :mrgreen:

Richard_Dicosimo 06-23-2006 04:00 AM

"can your SKIMMA!! do this?!?!?! " lmfao, inside joke i guess. lol

G1GY 06-23-2006 04:04 AM

Kind of like sports cars
 
I've heard some say that some people get exotic skimmers to make up for other shortcommings. :lol:

BMW Rider 06-23-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1GY
I've heard some say that some people get exotic skimmers to make up for other shortcommings. :lol:

So what does it mean when your skimmer is DIY :eek: :eek: :redface: :redface:

G1GY 06-23-2006 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW Rider
So what does it mean when your skimmer is DIY :eek: :eek: :redface: :redface:

:lol:

andrewsk 06-23-2006 04:54 PM

Here is a skimmer question.

I am also going to be adding OZONE to my new system. Have any of you noticed that skimmate production goes WAY down when this is added?

TheReefGeek 06-23-2006 04:56 PM

From what I have read, that is normal. I will be adding ozone later this year I hope, I will update here my results.

andrewsk 06-23-2006 05:22 PM

I am thinking the same thing. I will run my new skimmer for 2 weeks (after breakin) and measure skimmate, then add the ozone for 2 weeks, then remove it again. Ill do a picture comparison as well.

Richard_Dicosimo 06-23-2006 10:47 PM

ozone breaks down certain types of piping... what does it do to an acrlic skimmer?? i have been uncertain of adding ozone because of that.

TheReefGeek 06-23-2006 10:59 PM

Check with the skimmer manufacturer. I checked with ASM, they are supposed to be ozone safe. I expect the o-rings will wear down though.

andrewsk 07-03-2006 07:12 PM

Well I have a new update for anyone following along. The tank has now been placed on the styrafoam sheet and filled with water! (No leaks yet)

I have hooked up the wavebox and one of my Tunze Streams and the flow from the wavebox is truly amazing. So far, the best purchase I have made. I cannot wait to get my Corals in there.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1407Medium.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1406Medium.jpg

In the images above you can see the wave being kicked up by the wavebox!

I also got the custom starboard installed. I cut it on a 45 degree angle so it did not touch the original silicone, and filled in the spaces/gaps with new silicone. Since silicone does not stick to starboard, it was simply used for filling in the spaces. All the silicone on the top of the starboard was removed/wiped off before the water was added. So far it seems to be working very well.

The Overflow box is now working well and is very silent. The strainer on the left is connected to the Main flow pipe which has a gate valve attached at the sump. The valve is closed to allow just less than enough water to flow through. The pipe on the right catches the tiny bit of extra flow and the tank is totally silent.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1409Medium.jpg

I have a temporary Sump set up until the new one from Golds is done. Albert???? :)

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1410Medium.jpg

It had to be special ordered to allow my skimmer to fit into it.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1423Medium.jpg

My live rock is still cooking/curing and the rotten smell is almost gone now.

We are also completing construction on the sump room so I hope to have this all set up in the next 2 weeks, followed by the sump, lights and then the Aquascaping can begin!

woodcarver 07-03-2006 08:14 PM

Great thread ,Andrew ,keep the pictures and info coming ! Looking pretty impressive so far .
Dave.

Snappy 07-03-2006 09:58 PM

Lookin' good

TheReefGeek 07-03-2006 10:09 PM

Impressive, my next setup will have to have those overflows, that is awesome.


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