Although the rules are quite clear, Albert and Spitfire are pretty much the same person, so the point is moot. Lol.

Warren,

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Umm, dare I suggest, due to it not being expressively detailed in the rules, that we would be subject to normal online auction etiquette? ie. xx:59 seconds is the last possible valid time to count bids with xx:00 being the close of the auction? Because if we are, I see no debate here. And if that is not the case, well that's just a big can of worms, isn't it :)

Sorry Albert, I didn't notice your comment. I can't see "seconds", can you somehow? That's the reasoning behind the "last man standing" rule when bids are made in the last minute.

There are other Facebook auction groups that add a stipulation in that each bid will add some additional time to the end time clock in a way that can create a bidding war at the end of an auction that mat go past the actual end time.

Example: Auction ends at 21:00. Person A bids at 20:59 this gives an aditional bid window of 3 mins for another bid to be placed (up until 21:02) Person B now bids higher at 2101 thus giving another 3 min window for someone to outbid (21:04)

It's a suggestion if it makes sense and adds a little excitement at the end of a auction. And good for both seller and buyer in the end.

I can't, however, by process of elimination, it would seem that xx:59 would qualify as a bid made under xx:00 with the the bids being noted sequentially as posted. Not trying to be cheeky here.

It doesn't really matter because we've chosen to run the auctions in the "last man standing" fashion. :)

Do you dislike this rule? If so, what do you dislike and is that from a buyer or seller perspective?

This is how it's done on coral hoarders we also have no seconds but pretty easy like Albert said last bid in that last minute would win. I'm sure you could also look up the time stamp. This is what I do on COral hoarders and it does give exact time of post.

I don't follow? What do you mean "last man standing"? How does that clarify the timestamp?

We don't care about the time stamp because of guideline #6:

6) When two members make an identical "winning" bid on the same minute, the auction will remain open for these two bidders only for a bidding war - until a winning bid is achieved. At this time, if a bidder fails to post a bid increase within 24 hours, that bidder is considered resigned from the auction.

I don't have any constructive insight for you on this other than "why?"

Why not? :) This isn't a new idea - we stole it from another site. It works quite well. Although I think we could trim the "24 hours" down to "15 minutes" and achieve the same thing.

The "last man standing" more closely simulates a real auction. An item could have no bids for the entire life of the auction, then 2 (or 100) people bid in the last minute, and one guy gets the item for the opening bid. "Last man standing" gives both these people (or all 100) a chance to up the bid and actually continue it on like an auction should run - to the highest bidder. I think we did consider leaving the entire auction open for anyone to bid if there are two identical bids in the last minute, which I'm game for too. With that ruling, the auction remains open for all bidders until there isn't a bid within "X" amount of time. That's probably as close to a real auction as you can get.

I think there should be a option to chose the ending . If we went by these rules for this sale in particular it would have screwed up the sale as it had to
Be picked up the next night Before it would have ended. And yes 24 hours is too long if this is the way it will be kept.

We can change the allotted time, but for now we will be keeping the style.

Agreed, pretty much ever facebook auction group uses the last bid before a certain time system and it works the best imo/ime

We're not Facebook. For now we're keeping guideline #6, but we will modify it to 15 minutes instead of 24 hours.

6) When two members make an identical "winning" bid on the same minute, the auction will remain open for these two bidders only for a bidding war - until a winning bid is achieved. At this time, if a bidder fails to post a bid increase within 15 minutes, that bidder is considered resigned from the auction.

oh sorry i didnt realize this wasnt facebook, thanks for pointing that out

You're welcome. :)

For those of you who missed out on this auction I have a new one that I just posted ending March 17th for delivery on the 18th. Here is the link: http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...728#post985728

lol everyone missed out
it died