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Aquattro 02-14-2015 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jason604 (Post 935465)
and will be responding to my my forums post shorty and to feel free to continue with posting my incorrect claims...

Guy named Rick? Just signed up. If it gets out of hand, I'ma gonna whack somebody :)

WarDog 02-14-2015 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 935503)
Guy named Rick? Just signed up. If it gets out of hand, I'ma gonna whack somebody :)

This is why I love Canreef more than any other forum!

Ram3500 02-14-2015 01:18 AM

Friday night entertainment this could get interesting :popcorn:

jason604 02-14-2015 01:24 AM

Should b interesting haha

kien 02-14-2015 07:33 AM

Don't mind me. Just here for the fireworks.

:pop2:

lockrookie 02-15-2015 03:47 AM

Which LED fixtures should I get
 
Fyi for your soon to be radions you can get a reeflink for iPhone programming makes life so much easier but not needed right away

Be sure to update the firmware on both radions just to be sure up to date

As for upgrading the pucks regretfully you have to send the gen 1 away to ecotech to do so. In my opinion not worth it unless you have back up lights. But as they are they are great and I wouldn't worry about it too much. Spend the money on a reeflink maybe the tir lens for wider light spread and enjoy

As for the other company don't dwell you have the better light I'm very happy with my 4 radions. Will most likely be the last lights I own.

jason604 02-15-2015 06:41 PM

Ya a couple ppl been telling me not to upgrade my radions. What are notible differences between g1 and G3 anyways? Yes I am currently looking for TIR lenses and a reef link. So without reeflink I can't program my lights at all? Lights should be here by next week

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Originally Posted by lockrookie (Post 935744)
Fyi for your soon to be radions you can get a reeflink for iPhone programming makes life so much easier but not needed right away

Be sure to update the firmware on both radions just to be sure up to date

As for upgrading the pucks regretfully you have to send the gen 1 away to ecotech to do so. In my opinion not worth it unless you have back up lights. But as they are they are great and I wouldn't worry about it too much. Spend the money on a reeflink maybe the tir lens for wider light spread and enjoy

As for the other company don't dwell you have the better light I'm very happy with my 4 radions. Will most likely be the last lights I own.


lockrookie 02-15-2015 11:55 PM

Yes you can program them via pc as for the differences I couldn't tell you the specifics all I can tell you is your gonna love them

jason604 02-16-2015 12:33 AM

Thx! Man didn't no the TIR lenses upgrade kit is so cheap. Only 35$ on reefsupplies. They have 2 kinds. I should be getting the 120 deg lenses for my 5 ft tank correct? Since my tank is pretty shallow(20" I think)

REEFER RICK 02-18-2015 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jason604 (Post 935465)
Man I can't emphasis more on how rude reef radiance is. Didn't read their remark when they refunded my money on PayPal. Said they refunded my money to take my business elsewhere and will be responding to my my forums post shorty and to feel free to continue with posting my incorrect claims... What kind of customer service is this? I waited very patiently for them to return emails which is always 1 week after and never gives me update. How are these ppl still in business? Doesn't matter how good UR product is if u fail customer service so will UR small company.

Dear Hoang,

This last statement - like your entire thread is just not true. I was very polite to you when I refunded your money. Here is the exact email I sent you:

Hoang,

I just refunded your payment in full.

I think this is best for all parties involved.

I will be responding to your inaccurate forum claims shortly.

Rick

Rather different than above isn't it? I didn't tell you to take your business elsewhere - did I? Or did I say to continue to post your incorrect claims? I said neither - and this is just the beginning of your very altered story of what happened.


It is very interesting to me to read your posts and see how you have pretty much not portrayed anything accurately. You just wrote " okay just got my money refunded " like you asked for it. The truth ( which seems to be missing from your posts entirely) is that you did not ask for a refund - I chose after dealing with you to just refund you. If you contest this - please provide any email where you asked for a refund. Not going to happen as you did not. I chose after talking to our team to refund you - rather than deal with you. You started this transaction by trying to purchase the products for the US price when it states very clearly that we charge more for Canada.

Here is what you wrote " Hi rick I made the purchase from UR website on sat for two DM 165 P+. It showed that there was free shipping. I did not receive any confirmation from you that I have made the purchase only pay pals confirmation that I paid. How long does shipping take? " Well it shows on the page that you purchased them from the following:

DUE TO INCREDIBLE DEMAND FOR THIS LIGHT - IT TAKES 10-14 BUSINESS DAYS TO SHIP!


REEF RADIANCE NOW SHIPS TO ALASKA AND HAWAII AND CANADA AND MEXICO!

IF YOU WOULD LIKE A PRICE ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO SHIP ANY OF OUR PRODUCTS TO YOU IN ALASKA OR HAWAII - OR TO CANADA OR MEXICO - JUST GO TO THE CONTACT US PAGE AND SEND US WHAT PRODUCT OR PRODUCTS YOU WOULD LIKE AND YOUR ADDRESS AND WE WILL SEND YOU WHAT YOUR TOTAL SHIPPING WILL BE. WE DO NOT QUOTE COSTS FOR DUTIES OR TAXES AS THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON RECEIVING THE PRODUCTS.

I guess you missed all that.

It says 10 - 14 business days which would have been February 13th.

However your first post to this forum talking about how awful our customer service was was on the 12th. We responded to every one of your emails in very short order. In fact it took us 4 days emailing you to sort out that you agreed to pay the extra shipping to Canada that is clearly indicated right on the site where you paid.

Here is your email to us on the 26th - two days after you paid:

From: hoang nguyen [mailto:edited]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:51 PM
To: rick@reefradiance.com
Subject: Re: New Form Entry: CONTACT US

Yes check. My address is "edited" vancouver bc Canada. Let me no the cost. How long does it take for u to send out and should I be expecting a confirmation email about my purchase. It did not ask for shipping when I paid via PayPal. If price is too high for shipping I can give u a American PO box n I can cross the border to pick up.


This was on the 26th and we took two more days to get you a cost - so this added 4 more days.

Convenient how you forgot to post this in your rant.

You mention that it is outrageous that we don't respond to our customers requests for updates for the 14th days. Actually we post very clearly on our site the following - once again clearly stated on our site:

WE DO NOT RESPOND TO PRODUCT STATUS REQUESTS IF THE PRODUCT IS STILL WITHIN THE SHIPPING TIME FRAME INDICATED ON OUR SITE - THIS ENABLES US TO KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN AND KEEP PROVIDING AMAZING PRODUCTS AT INCREDIBLE PRICES. If your order hasn't arrived after this time, please complete the form below to request a status update on your order. Please fill out every line as we cannot track your purchase if we do not have all the information. Thank you for your understanding - we appreciate your business!

What we do - and don't do is clearly spelled out on our website - I guess you missed that as well.

And frankly when I read comments like " tons " of people are angry - etc etc - who uses terms like that? If you go to the forums - we have a 98% percent satisfaction rating with our customers. Clearly facts and you do not have a very clear relationship.

By the way I did hang up on a customer - he would not - under any circumstance let me speak at all - so I told him I could not help him if he did not let me speak and he refused to so I did just that. And you know what - he called back 16 times in a row .................. non-stop. If you think that speaks to a normal person - then I cant help you.

If you read the forums - the incredible majority of forums members are good and loyal and happy customers.

We sell the best lights at the best prices and have for 5 years and will for the next 5.

If you are wondering how I found your post in a small forum in Canada - here is what one of your fellow forum members sent me:

" The kid seems like a douche so thought his point of view on what's happened between you two was probably unjust... "

hmmmm..... I guess not everyone bought your story...........

That is how I found out about your wildly inaccurate posts:

Hoang - the reality is - you tried to sneak an order to Canada for the same cost and we caught you and then you agreed to pay like everyone else does and didn't read anything on our site that explained in detail all the terms and conditions of a purchase - you just wanted your stuff NOW!

And we processed your order like all the other hundreds of other customers who did read what we wrote - and patiently waited for their lights.

And you got angry because you did not want to wait anymore and had to post how awful we are portray how you were the injured party when actually we bent over backward to help you with your shipping confusion and did every single thing listed on our site - exactly as it was written.

You wanted the lights at the great price - but you were not willing to follow the simple rules to get them.

And I decided - if you were that difficult before we even shipped your lights - how awful would it be if - God forbid - you had a service issue.

So I refunded you.

So this goes to you and all the people who posted agreement with you on this thread without taking the time to verify any part of it - perhaps you might have taken a moment to verify any of this - before you jumped on the band wagon?

Really - would that not have been the right thing to do?

My name is Rick Schott - I am the founder of Reef Radiance - and I would welcome any input from anyone on this forum to my email at rick@reefradiance.com.

Lastly - in case any one cares - why I spent so much time responding to this one thread way up in Canada - it is because I did two Ironman Triathlon in BC and love your country and absolutely love the Canadian people - I know factually that Hoang is not reflected of these great people at all.

Sincerely,

Rick Schott

Aquattro 02-18-2015 05:31 AM

Rick, thank you for your professional response.

jason604 02-18-2015 06:19 AM

This is the email i sent ur wife.. it seems fair and i did not get an email back for a few days until i made that forum post.

Maureen,

it's been 3 weeks. How come my lights are still not shipped out yet? I need an update atleast. Do u have them in stock? My tank can't wait any longer. I've also read on forums that ur iPhone app doesn't work so I won't even be able to use my lights once it comes? Please reply asap. I'm going to give it till Friday if I don't hear back I will just get PayPal to reverse the transaction. I hope u understand my frustration.

Thanks




This is what u wrote on the paypal refund instead of trying to keep a customer and many more they could bring in which every business would do. Instead you u sent me this with a refund right away after i posted on forum.

Reef Radiance
rick@ricksdiet.com
http://www.ricksdiet.com
Note from merchant
DEAR HOANG, I JUST REFUNDED YOUR PAYMENT IN FULL. THIS WILL ENABLE TO PURCHASE ELSEWHERE - SOMETHING WE BOTH WANT AT THIS POINT. I WILL BE RESPONDING TO YOUR FORUMS POSTS SHORTLY - SO FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE TO POST INACURATE CLAIMS. RICK

Would that not mean to take my business elsewhere? and in all caps. Do a quick google search and there are threads on almost every reefing forums about your customer service skill.

Also when i said i needs my lights soon i was told to see the loaner lights program. Why would i want to get lights loan when i just paid for ones? All i really wanted was just an update on why they have not been shipped yet and i was not given one in 3 weeks. It could just be like oh we are behind in stock.. then i would be fine with that and that should be made aware to possible buyers on your site as backordered

Ram3500 02-18-2015 06:57 AM

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jason604 02-18-2015 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram3500 (Post 936346)

LOOL!

GoFish 02-18-2015 10:04 PM

:popcorn: How much more popcorn do we have to eat to see an apology, I'm stuffed :wink:

REEFER RICK 02-18-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jason604 (Post 936341)
This is the email i sent ur wife.. it seems fair and i did not get an email back for a few days until i made that forum post.

Maureen,

it's been 3 weeks. How come my lights are still not shipped out yet? I need an update atleast. Do u have them in stock? My tank can't wait any longer. I've also read on forums that ur iPhone app doesn't work so I won't even be able to use my lights once it comes? Please reply asap. I'm going to give it till Friday if I don't hear back I will just get PayPal to reverse the transaction. I hope u understand my frustration.

Thanks




This is what u wrote on the paypal refund instead of trying to keep a customer and many more they could bring in which every business would do. Instead you u sent me this with a refund right away after i posted on forum.

Reef Radiance
rick@ricksdiet.com
http://www.ricksdiet.com
Note from merchant
DEAR HOANG, I JUST REFUNDED YOUR PAYMENT IN FULL. THIS WILL ENABLE TO PURCHASE ELSEWHERE - SOMETHING WE BOTH WANT AT THIS POINT. I WILL BE RESPONDING TO YOUR FORUMS POSTS SHORTLY - SO FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE TO POST INACURATE CLAIMS. RICK

Would that not mean to take my business elsewhere? and in all caps. Do a quick google search and there are threads on almost every reefing forums about your customer service skill.

Also when i said i needs my lights soon i was told to see the loaner lights program. Why would i want to get lights loan when i just paid for ones? All i really wanted was just an update on why they have not been shipped yet and i was not given one in 3 weeks. It could just be like oh we are behind in stock.. then i would be fine with that and that should be made aware to possible buyers on your site as backordered

Hoang,

I have already addressed your posts and I am done with this. I made my point very clear and - speaking of other peoples opinions - have received direct emails and PMs from others on this site who appreciate my direct and factual approach to this - and frankly - these people hold you and your posts in rather low esteem.

I truly wish you the best of luck in your purchase of lights.

Rick

gobytron 02-18-2015 10:15 PM

this is your word against theirs and you two were the only parties privy to what really happened.

Hashing it out for all to see does nobody other than those who enjoy the drama any good.

Looks like some miscommunication and some hasty, emotional decision making.

We've all been there.

REEFER RICK 02-18-2015 10:33 PM

Hi Gobytron,

You are correct and I am done with the posts - at least about this.

Time to move on and go get my hands wet in my aquarium!

Rick

REEFER RICK 02-18-2015 10:37 PM

I should add that I am more than willing to chat with anyone that needs help with lighting for their aquariums - you don't have to buy ours - just love to talk " aquarium ".

You can email me directly at rick@reefradiance.com.

Keep Reefing!

Rick

kien 02-18-2015 10:37 PM

Well, I can say that I'm happy to see that there was a satisfactory resolution to this.

As has already been suggested, there is always two sides to every story, so most definitely, thanks Reefer Rick for stepping in to provide your perspective of the events.

I think we can probably say now that this salt water under the proverbial bridge ?

jason604 02-19-2015 12:20 AM

Yup I'm already past it n happy with my new discision on lights. No need to be flexing our epeen to each other or anyone else. I know ur product is good n price can't rly be beat. Happy reefing n good luck with Ur sales.

Metrontech 02-19-2015 12:29 AM

Check this out
 
Ok so I heard back from Elive the led company

Such great support and very accessible

I have attached a picture of their report that shows how many leds etc. I would need to grow low light corals

This basically tells me that I have to have my coral like 6-8 inch from the light to gain the best growth...

That doesn't work for me

But I imagine I could add another 10 pods to make it a little better. But at $15 a pod for the HO versions it's another $150

Thanks again for all the input and support

Looking forward to my simple T5 6 bulb

Now for my 30 gallon I suppose I could use my old T5 2 lamp? Simply because of the smaller tank?

Just like to put a few things in this smaller tank

GoFish 02-19-2015 12:40 AM

Well sounds like we can all do some water changes and decide which salt to use next.

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