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Bill@IA 11-03-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 919542)
Are you sold out or are there more that can be bought?

I have a few coming in my next shipment, due this Thursday/Friday Nov.6/7th , that aren't spoken for…...so far.
I am told my shipment has left Maxspect and is on its way.

Bill@IA 11-03-2014 03:14 PM

Shipment has been confirmed for delivery this week.

reefme 11-03-2014 04:15 PM

How much is it?

Bill@IA 11-03-2014 05:46 PM

They are $319.99

Here is the link with more information and to order: http://www.incredibleaquarium.com/in...oducts_id=3551

Fesso 11-03-2014 07:07 PM

I just received mine, thanks for the speedy delivery Bill! I will post my unboxing,setup and thoughts as soon as I get this bad boy set up! Yippee!

Bill@IA 11-05-2014 10:03 AM

We have Maxspect GYRE XF150s in stock and ready to ship.


The Smaller 35w XF130 model leaves the factory end on November. We should have them just before mid-December. Price is $269.99

Jaws 11-05-2014 04:08 PM

Any feedback from those that got in on the first order so far?

Fesso 11-05-2014 04:51 PM

My initial impression is WOW!
My tank is 80x20x20, peninsula. I mounted it on the far end from the overflow replacing an MP40. I started at %50 in the default A-B Paddle combination.
With no other pumps running this thing is easily providing enough flow at %50 for the whole tank. Detritus is being kicked up from all over the place and is being suspended and is moving back towards the Gyre then it is being spit back towards the overflow meaning the flow is ricocheting off the far end (as advertised) and there is defiantly a Gyre effect in the tank.

There are 4 modes to run it in
1. Constant speed - this provides a sheet of water that creates turbulence across the surface of my whole 80 inches at %50.

2. Pulse. You can set it to pulse at intervals from .4s to 30 seconds. there are 20 pulse time options here.

3. Alternating Gyre mode. - This is where it gets interesting!
The pump can can switch directions, spinning opposite has less power than forward because of the paddle design but you can set it to compensate for example 50% forward and 100% reverse. You can set it to switch directions from 2 minutes to 12 hours with 10 intervals in between. I have set mine to 50% forward, 100% reverse switching every 15 minutes.

4. 1 button 10 minute feed mode

The controller is very easy to use and looks good. Apparently 3rd party controllability is in the works.

The unit comes with an extra set of paddles and cages as well as extra bushings. Apparently there are 2 different sets of paddles so you can mix and match different flow patterns but I have not investigated this and installed with the default configuration.


BTW I turned off my other MP40 at the opposite end of the tank when I first set up the Gyre. I don't think I'll need to turn it back on... But I will, I am going to keep it and run it on ReefCrest to provide random counter flow... I'll keep it, at least until I get a second Gyre....

NOISE:
Nope, just a light hum. Running at %50 constant the hum is less audible than the hum of a properly seated MP40 on constant (green) at %50. Sitting here typing I can't even hear the Gyre anymore under the hum of my Eheim 1262 return pump. I could hear it at first because I was trying...

Magnet: I have 3/4" glass. The pump is holding on but is pretty loose. I am using a sticky cord holed to hold it in place like an MP40. Apparently the upgraded magnet for 3/4" + glass will be out in a few weeks.
I read on another forum that the magnet is waterproof and the Gyre can be mounted on an overflow but I would get confirmation on that.

Those are my initial thoughts. I do have some buyers remorse.... I should have ordered 2...

jordsyke 11-05-2014 05:05 PM

Mines supposed to arrive tomorow! Cannot wait :D

ronau 11-05-2014 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fesso (Post 919848)
My initial impression is WOW!
My tank is 80x20x20, peninsula. I mounted it on the far end from the overflow replacing an MP40. I started at %50 in the default A-B Paddle combination.
With no other pumps running this thing is easily providing enough flow at %50 for the whole tank. Detritus is being kicked up from all over the place and is being suspended and is moving back towards the Gyre then it is being spit back towards the overflow meaning the flow is ricocheting off the far end (as advertised) and there is defiantly a Gyre effect in the tank.

There are 4 modes to run it in
1. Constant speed - this provides a sheet of water that creates turbulence across the surface of my whole 80 inches at %50.

2. Pulse. You can set it to pulse at intervals from .4s to 30 seconds. there are 20 pulse time options here.

3. Alternating Gyre mode. - This is where it gets interesting!
The pump can can switch directions, spinning opposite has less power than forward because of the paddle design but you can set it to compensate for example 50% forward and 100% reverse. You can set it to switch directions from 2 minutes to 12 hours with 10 intervals in between. I have set mine to 50% forward, 100% reverse switching every 15 minutes.

4. 1 button 10 minute feed mode

The controller is very easy to use and looks good. Apparently 3rd party controllability is in the works.

The unit comes with an extra set of paddles and cages as well as extra bushings. Apparently there are 2 different sets of paddles so you can mix and match different flow patterns but I have not investigated this and installed with the default configuration.


BTW I turned off my other MP40 at the opposite end of the tank when I first set up the Gyre. I don't think I'll need to turn it back on... But I will, I am going to keep it and run it on ReefCrest to provide random counter flow... I'll keep it, at least until I get a second Gyre....

NOISE:
Nope, just a light hum. Running at %50 constant the hum is less audible than the hum of a properly seated MP40 on constant (green) at %50. Sitting here typing I can't even hear the Gyre anymore under the hum of my Eheim 1262 return pump. I could hear it at first because I was trying...

Magnet: I have 3/4" glass. The pump is holding on but is pretty loose. I am using a sticky cord holed to hold it in place like an MP40. Apparently the upgraded magnet for 3/4" + glass will be out in a few weeks.
I read on another forum that the magnet is waterproof and the Gyre can be mounted on an overflow but I would get confirmation on that.

Those are my initial thoughts. I do have some buyers remorse.... I should have ordered 2...

Thanks for the input, I might wait for the XF-130 for my 40" x 20" x 20" then.

Jaws 11-05-2014 06:44 PM

Good review. I'm going to be doing something similar but with 3 of them. I have a coast to coast overflow in a 7' long tank by 36" front to back and 30" tall. I'm going to evenly space 3 of them across the back wall of the tank below the overflow. I know 3 is a lot but I'll be able to dial them down and provide an even gyre throughout the entire tank. I'm interested to see what happens to food when I add it to the water like this. Wondering if the gyre is going to cause the food to find its way right into the overflow or if it will cycle it around the tank a bit first.

Werbo 11-05-2014 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 919870)
Good review. I'm going to be doing something similar but with 3 of them. I have a coast to coast overflow in a 7' long tank by 36" front to back and 30" tall. I'm going to evenly space 3 of them across the back wall of the tank below the overflow. I know 3 is a lot but I'll be able to dial them down and provide an even gyre throughout the entire tank. I'm interested to see what happens to food when I add it to the water like this. Wondering if the gyre is going to cause the food to find its way right into the overflow or if it will cycle it around the tank a bit first.

Buy a feeding ring

Jaws 11-05-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werbo (Post 919887)
Buy a feeding ring

I'm not worried about the food floating on the surface and going right into the overflow because the Gyres will be pushing water across the top of the tank away from the overflow. It's once the food flows down the front window of the tank, across the bottom and then back up the back wall. I'm curious if the Maxspect will grab it and spit it out again or if much of it will find its way into the overflow.

xlzerolx 11-05-2014 08:53 PM

pre orders for 35W
 
Are there pre-orders for 35W version?

Thanks

Randolph

Bill@IA 11-05-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlzerolx (Post 919891)
Are there pre-orders for 35W version?

Thanks

Randolph

Yes.

Details and pics coming soon. Here is the link: http://www.incredibleaquarium.com/in...oducts_id=3968

Fesso 11-06-2014 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 919870)
Good review. I'm going to be doing something similar but with 3 of them. I have a coast to coast overflow in a 7' long tank by 36" front to back and 30" tall. I'm going to evenly space 3 of them across the back wall of the tank below the overflow. I know 3 is a lot but I'll be able to dial them down and provide an even gyre throughout the entire tank. I'm interested to see what happens to food when I add it to the water like this. Wondering if the gyre is going to cause the food to find its way right into the overflow or if it will cycle it around the tank a bit first.

I thought about the possibility of mounting the Gyre on the overflow but then I thought about surface skimming. ideally we want the flow in our tanks to suspend detritus and direct it to the overflow for skimming. If one were to mount the Gyre under the overflow teeth I think it would push the detritus away from the teeth. The wall of water coming from the pump is quite significant. Maybe the thing to do would be have the one on the overflow set in reverse so that it sucks water toward the overflow instead of pushing away from it...
When I feed I shut down my return, my Gyre is opposite my overflow. I was playing around and added food right in front of it at 70% and I watched a few pieces travel all the way across to the overflow then come back again along the bottom quarter of the tank then get sucked into the Gyre and spat all the way across again....

mseepman 11-07-2014 10:06 PM

Put my new Gyre in the tank today. Its very nice. I have a 7' peninsula and 12000gph on the overflow end but only about 900 - 1000gph flow on the open end from the returns. Its always frustrated me, but tank is doing well. Now I mounted the Gyre right at top on open end we'll see how it changes things up. I have it so high up that anything over 30% sucks air in so just testing at low right now.
Crazy flow when on high though.

kengeroo 11-09-2014 11:47 PM

reverse mode...
 
would really like to see someone post the gyre's ability to move the water in the opposite direction....

and yes I heard from the manufacturers there will be APEX integration.

ronau 11-10-2014 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fesso (Post 919930)
I thought about the possibility of mounting the Gyre on the overflow but then I thought about surface skimming. ideally we want the flow in our tanks to suspend detritus and direct it to the overflow for skimming. If one were to mount the Gyre under the overflow teeth I think it would push the detritus away from the teeth. The wall of water coming from the pump is quite significant. Maybe the thing to do would be have the one on the overflow set in reverse so that it sucks water toward the overflow instead of pushing away from it...
When I feed I shut down my return, my Gyre is opposite my overflow. I was playing around and added food right in front of it at 70% and I watched a few pieces travel all the way across to the overflow then come back again along the bottom quarter of the tank then get sucked into the Gyre and spat all the way across again....

I know they don't recommend it but what about putting it on the overflow side, upside down and at the bottom of the tank? There will be plenty of velocity to get detritus moving and it'll be at the lowest velocity when passing by the overflow. This probably would be a disaster if not in a bare bottom tank.

Fesso 03-11-2015 12:51 AM

New quiet mount is QUIET
 
I went and picked up my new and improved mount today (it was delivered last week to my studio). The pump is now DEAD SILENT. I wasn't able to run pulse mode past 50% before because of the ramping up and down. Now I can go %100 without a peep. (if my tank could stand it which it can not)

I am really impressed with the way Maxspect took care of us early adopters... totally classy!

Thanks again Bill!

intarsiabox 03-11-2015 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fesso (Post 940219)
I went and picked up my new and improved mount today (it was delivered last week to my studio). The pump is now DEAD SILENT. I wasn't able to run pulse mode past 50% before because of the ramping up and down. Now I can go %100 without a peep. (if my tank could stand it which it can not)

I am really impressed with the way Maxspect took care of us early adopters... totally classy!

Thanks again Bill!

Good to hear that they came up with such a quick fix for you! This seems to be the only complaint I've heard about some of the units.

mseepman 03-27-2015 03:52 PM

I just wanted to comment on the excellent service I've got from Bill at Incredible Aquariums. I ordered one of the first gyre's to come from them and recently noticed a small issue with the pump. I contacted Bill and sent him a picture of what was up. He dealt with it immediately and fired off the replacement part via fedex the next day.
This is the kind of service that will ensure I shop again at this Vendor.
Thanks Bill!


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