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The vibration is where you'll be getting most of your pump noise. The flex PVC helps a bit (as compared to rigid PVC), but you can reduce a lot of the vibration by putting a section of vinyl tubing (at least a foot) right above the pump. I use the anti-kink stuff but if it's a straight shot it shouldn't matter. As for underneath, if it doesn't have rubber feet, you can make your own with a bit of silicone. And I've heard of others using mouse pads underneath, but I probably wouldn't chance it. You should be able to find a good inert rubber mat (or rubber feet) somewhere. Or use some 10mm neoprene.

Purchased a few things today for cleaning I guess I didn't clean the construction dust and wood chips up very well I found a eheim vac wondering if any one has one and if it's any good for reef tank. Right now I'm going to use it to clean bottom of tank and sump from wood , dust , PVC , and styrofoam http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6gmrgda2.jpg

Running my tank now with just ro-di water trying to get my water level right so when I shut off the pump it doesn't overflow my sump. The herbie worked well really easy to tune little scary at first not knowing if I'm going to flood the up stairs and if the overflow could catch up. I still have to work on the mag 24 it's just growling away not sure if that's normal. The mag 18 I have is a lot quieter. http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswkkxmgcj.jpg

So I think I found my noisy pump problem. I pulled the impeller out and this is what I found. The shaft had broken peace off of it and I believe it's porcelain. This is a new pump http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psytryr5ze.jpghttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pse045tvze.jpg

I have to thank Eli at fijirock for the awesome aqua scape Eli is a pro hope no one has to compete against him at the fragfest. http://youtu.be/2WoBaVX_QDA

Just picked up some sand today. http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psy3qcitmh.jpg

So I made some ro- di water about maybe 300 gallons and my Tds is reading 2 ppm that can't be right. http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68iecb4i.jpg

On my ro- di unit I shut valves and let it pressure up and back flush then opened valves back up now it's ready zero. I also checked it with hand held meter and it read zero so I'm not sure y it was reading 2 ppm

Did a few things today built removable sub floor and mounted Neptune. I have Neptune hooked to Internet but still have to program. http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pslfux8g1o.jpghttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...ps04e4xk9e.jpg

So today I was playing around with my apex neptune trying to program my jebao wave makers and lights but I'm not finding it very user friendly I thought it was going to be easier but maybe I just need more time with it. I also found the instruction cd manual to be all over the place and having to go back and forth trying to figure things out.

As far as jebao control goes I believe the apex is limited to just turning it on and off. The control is done from the controller that you get with the power head.

I believe there is a member (torx I think) that can conjure up a magical cable that gives you control through your apex but you have to have the full apex (not lite or Jr.).

Hope this helps,
Dunc

Stick by it, they are pretty frustrating but you'll get it working in the end.

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I purchased the cord from torx and have apex neptune with lab grade probs and energy bar 8. Most of the videos on line are old ones. I guess one good thing is I can give someone my password to sort it all out if I have too.

You'll find with Apex that it can do a lot but you have to keep buying parts to make it do more. Your build is similar to what I'm working on and here is what I've come up with so far. As your base unit is in the basement and your lights and jebao pumps are upstairs you need the VDM module so you have the 0-10v ports to plug Torx's cable into (or you will need to change the cable you have to make the cord reach from upstairs to those ports on your base unit. If you get the VDM module it will need to go upstairs which means you will need to get an aquabus cable long enough to reach from downstairs. You can find a 15' M-M cable pretty easy but my distance is more than that so I'm having Denny order me a 15' M-F aquabus cable also. He hasn't ordered mine yet so if you need one get him to order another one.

For the Radions you will need the WXM module which can connect to the radions wirelessly so you would not need that upstairs. On the forums for Apex, I read a few people having issues with connecting to the apex as apparently Ecotech has to supply the module and the firmware updates to Neptune systems to make it work and Ecotechs reeflink system gets the updates first and then later Neptune systems. The latest update was hoped to solve some of the problems people were having. For that reason I ended up going with the Reeflink system instead.

Programming isn't the easiest but after you do it a bit it gets easier and the manual makes more sense. I have what you have (minus the radions) on my current system and found I needed to use a combination of the manual and the forums to figure things out. There is some program examples for the jebao in the forums but I didn't really like them and have been playing with some of my own settings. I did use that programming as my base though, except I'm changing some of the timing parameters.

If you want to pm me your Apex user name I can let you look at my setup. I'm assuming you managed to get Fusion set up??

PS. I haven't tried letting someone else into my apex but I don't think you ever give anyone your password. They sign into their own Fusion account and you set within your system what level access that user name will have.

Thank you for the info I guess on my journal I should take more pics and tell people what I got set up. The run from the top of my tank to apex in basement is 20ft. So for the jebao I had torx make the cable 20ft so that's all good. I also have a apex auto feeder and it apparently comes with a 15ft aquabus cord I found that out after I ordered one and then opened the box. But I was still short so I purchased a USB cord from a computer place in town. For my lights I went with the reeflink because everyone said I would have more control with them but I still want my lights plugged into apex power bar so I at least have the high heat off. I do have the apex fusion working I was sitting next to my tank last night on iPad trying to get my wave makers working the way I thought they should and turn them down cause they sound like my phone on vib. But they have a mind of there own I don't no what there doing.

I haven't upgraded to Fusion yet so I'm not much help. If you do a quick google search, I am sure there will be a couple links to the Neptune forum. I'll have a look at Fusion and see if my knowledge of the old system might help.

I think I might use this feature to get set up to start . And then after go in and play around with it. I'm loosing focus on this thing.

You should message Torx, I believe he was a beta tester and has had Fusion for quite some time.

I sent torx a message last night. No response yet

http://forum.neptunesystems.com/show...ighlight=jebao

That's the program I use but i've changed around some of the time and the intensity.

I signed patman to my apex to see if he could program it see what happens.

i got in. Have a few meetings right now. will look later.

Put together this bad ass skimmer and tried out. http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psrjtdghdp.jpg

Looked at the programming. Looks straight forward. Ramps up to 66% and 55% respectively over the day and then back down. Right now it's at 64% and 40%. Not sure what you think it isn't doing. if you try making a change sometimes it takes a few minutes before fusion communicates with the base unit. Maybe let me know what you think it should be doing and what it is doing.

Sometimes they just shut right off I have to try and set the times on it and also add a heater not sure how to Change plug names

Hmmm. Does it only happen when the speed is down? I read somewhere where it sometimes doesn't like it when it gets below 20%, but then I just read today where Torx posted it sometimes doesn't like it when it is below 40% or 2v.

You can't change the outlet name in Fusion. You have to use the regular Apex program, go to Configuration and outlet setup.

Not really sure I have been trying to set each wave maker separately and change what it does but so far one pump switch on dash board runs both

You may be having the problem because of your profile PF1 and PF2 setting. First, you changed the name for both of these to "wave" which may be confusing the system. Next you have them set to Vortech programs. I think you either need pump or ramp. The two quotes below are from the neptune forums.


"ON and OFF are manual overrides. ON is ON/100%, period. There's nothing wrong. Programming will only be executed if the outlet is set to Auto.

VarSpd outlet put of a variable 0-10 volt) control signal - they are used with compatible dimmable lighting and variable speed pumps like the controllable Tunze pumps. You cannot use Vortech profiles and modes with VarSpd outlets.. That simply won't work. You can use pump and ramp profiles with them."

"The 4 VarSpd outlets by default come pre- programmed with Set PF1 for VarSpd2, Set PF2 for VarSpd2, etc. When you renamed the PF2 profile to ReefCrest, for example, the programming for VarSpd2 changed to Set ReefCrest."

What to do with skimmer ? I have been running my tank now for a couple days with a sand bed and saltwater no fish or rock. My skimmer looks like it's been cleaning something and I get dirty water in cup do I run the drain hose to floor drain ? It seems to be condensation in cup building water do I have it set wrong ?

My skimmer is also making lots of micro bubbles how do I tell it to stop besides unplugging it

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Just let it run. You don't have any type of bio-load in your tank, so it's not going to that much
anyway. Once you add fish and rock, it will start pulling out organics, etc. I've used this
skimmer before and found it to be pretty good.
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My tap water in Toronto has about 250 TDS. Yours seem very high.

It's because it's well water it actually goes over 1000 ppm my water is really soft and clear and no chlorine but was lab tested and it's all good.

I got my pukani dry rock yesterday from eli at fiji reef rock. I gave it all a bleach bath for the nighthttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pst7xpvt6q.jpgthen today I did the acid bathhttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psralslapd.jpgafter that I started building my aqua scape it should be ready to put in tank tomorrow http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pscvoopjes.jpg

I also need someone's skim from there skimmer in grande prairie to seed my tank

bleach or muriatic?

Do you need to do that with the base rock ???

Scape looks great if you can replicate that in the tank.

Nice progress man well done :mrgreen: