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mrhasan 10-13-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 851357)
I'm gonna be following this thread. I've considered getting a zeo reactor with the rocks in the past but just been too lazy to do the research. I stopped when I got to the part where it says not to run if running a refugium. But yet my refugium is not for growing any algae but strictly pods.

Best part is the reactor is no longer expensive. Fish street sells three models between $60 to $100. You just add your own pump. Basically, its just pieces of PVC glued together so nothing to be worried about failing. People were initially concerned about the joints but it has been a long time and I haven't seen any negative review. Plus these are magnetic reactor (two magnets of the same pole at the bottom so the chamber floats) so you just pull once and it jumps few times, thus cleaning the rocks a bit better. Cool stuff.

Madreefer 10-13-2013 06:56 PM

Where is Fish Street located? Is it in the States? I prefer to support Canadian stores only. Too much of a hassle and shipping takes forever

mrhasan 10-13-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 851365)
Where is Fish Street located? Is it in the States? I prefer to support Canadian stores only. Too much of a hassle and shipping takes forever

Its in China :P They were the ones who started distributing WP40. Very well reputation being a Chinese store (they actually have customer service). I ordered something from them and took around 20 days to reach my place so basically the typical ebay style shipping time.

thmh 10-13-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 851365)
Where is Fish Street located? Is it in the States? I prefer to support Canadian stores only. Too much of a hassle and shipping takes forever

Fish street is in China :-) I think!?

~Tony

albert_dao 10-13-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 851343)
now you're even sounding like the descriptions on the zeo bottles :mrgreen:

I balk at your insinuation that I would have had anything to do with some of the wording on those bottles!

lastlight 10-13-2013 09:08 PM

Pohl's Xtra "improves vitality visibly". If Albert hasn't said that already... he was thinking it.

reefwars 10-13-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 851237)
ULNS, crystal clear water and color; growth is a secondary addon for me.



if cost is a factor you can always VSV and supplement which ever zeo products you need to , when trying to get to ULNS theres more than one way to skin a cat besides what the market offers in a box or bottle.

as for the zeo products you use, some of them have a very distinct purpose even if it isnt noticable right away and some have faster effects.

its not a bogus program that sells products that do nothing each additive has a purpose thats been tested and proven to have a certain affect , alot of research goes into this product line,just because one reefer noticed no changes doesnt mean you will , each system is different to a point.

spend some time on the zeo forumns and become familiar with everything and start small.

all in all zeo is what you make it, it can be cheap or pricey depending on how far into you want to get;)

gl!!

cheers

kien 10-14-2013 03:30 AM

I googled "Coral Snow" once and got pages upon pages of snakes!! True story, and False advertising!

mrhasan 10-14-2013 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 851410)
if cost is a factor you can always VSV and supplement which ever zeo products you need to , when trying to get to ULNS theres more than one way to skin a cat besides what the market offers in a box or bottle.

as for the zeo products you use, some of them have a very distinct purpose even if it isnt noticable right away and some have faster effects.

its not a bogus program that sells products that do nothing each additive has a purpose thats been tested and proven to have a certain affect , alot of research goes into this product line,just because one reefer noticed no changes doesnt mean you will , each system is different to a point.

spend some time on the zeo forumns and become familiar with everything and start small.

all in all zeo is what you make it, it can be cheap or pricey depending on how far into you want to get;)

gl!!

cheers

Thanks for the advice Denny :D See ya on 15th ;)

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 851447)
I googled "Coral Snow" once and got pages upon pages of snakes!! True story, and False advertising!

LOL. Yah there's a species of snake named coral snow :P I guess zeovit was trolling those who claim this as snake oil ;)

saltyair 10-15-2013 01:43 PM

Not sure if you want my 2cents but here it is.:lol:

I did some research on the zeo system and there are some tanks that have thrived.But most of those tanks that do thrive started (or early on) with the Zeo system.

When I looked into this system I was looking for something that would help keep NO3 down as my bio load increased and keep any algae from taking hold, I also wanted something that would enhance my new sps collection.

This is what I have been using I believe successfully for over 2 years (on a 4yr system)

20 gal refug
carbon,gfo reactor (change out every 30 days)
over sized skimmer
carbon dose (vinegar) 45mls
and weekly 15gal WC
Reef fuel once a week (1/2 dose) + reef roids(1/4 dose)

My sps are very colourful (on the darker side)
other than my little melflex experience - no algae blooms.

If I were to start a new system I think I would start early with the Zeo system - but not a mature set up IMO

reefermadness 10-15-2013 01:58 PM

Here is my take on zeovit, short and sweet.

It can work, but is not necasary to maintain a beautiful, healthy reef. So why use it?

That is only my opinion and I'm not looking to get flamed but I just like to keep things as simple as I can while still producing the results I'm looking for.

Aquattro 10-15-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by reefermadness (Post 851745)
Here is my take on zeovit, short and sweet.

It can work, but is not necasary to maintain a beautiful, healthy reef. So why use it?

That is only my opinion and I'm not looking to get flamed but I just like to keep things as simple as I can while still producing the results I'm looking for.

Probably can't argue with that. I use it because I have it and started the tank with it. Although, I'm not sure how well I "use" it, as I often miss dosing. Mostly I have a reactor full of rocks that I believe helps. Believing is enough :)

albert_dao 10-15-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by reefermadness (Post 851745)
Here is my take on zeovit, short and sweet.

It can work, but is not necasary to maintain a beautiful, healthy reef. So why use it?

That is only my opinion and I'm not looking to get flamed but I just like to keep things as simple as I can while still producing the results I'm looking for.

I don't mean to be glib when I say this, but sometimes its about getting results that go a little beyond what you were looking for :D

kien 10-16-2013 01:32 AM

FLAME WAR ON!!

Magickiwi 10-16-2013 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 851863)
FLAME WAR ON!!

Flame war? Why didn't I get invited?

mrhasan 10-16-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Magickiwi (Post 851865)
Flame war? Why didn't I get invited?

Well you are already here so...yah! :razz:

mrhasan 10-30-2013 03:31 AM

Well got my reactor from fishstreet :D

Ordered on 21st Oct.
Shipped on 22nd Oct.
Reached Calgary post office on 28th Oct.
Picked up on 29th Oct.

It was very fast considering it was shipped from China. Here's the reactor after taking it out from the box:

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/...psb9994aa0.jpg

Packing was extremely good with little to no chance of any damage I would say.

Now about the quality, I am not particularly sure how the quality is standing alongside the vertex but its all PVC and I am happy with the build. It doesn't come with any pump so I got myself an ehime 80gph variable pump to go with it. And consumes only 5w while for refugium, I would have to use atleast 10w of light so reactor would put any sort of spike in the bill. So, a very well made pump with a reactor made out of PVC, I don't think I can complain :)

One of the thing that should be noted is fish-street advertises it as 1.5ltr capacity but actually it can hold 1ltr. Maybe they use a different zeolite to measure or something, not sure. But I will be using only about 700ml so I am good with it.

Oh, the reactor itself was around $70 and shipping was around $40. All in all, I paid around $111 shipped.

I will be setting it up tomorrow after I do a 10 gallon WC since I need to remove the rocks from the refugium and clean up the sump floor. My zeovit journey starts tomorrow :)

kien 10-30-2013 03:58 AM

Did it come with the extra foot as well?

Rice Reef 10-30-2013 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 855036)
Did it come with the extra foot as well?

LOL! I was just gonna comment on it. I think the big toe is used to regulate the amt of flow going into the reactor.

mrhasan 10-30-2013 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 855036)
Did it come with the extra foot as well?

Nop. Got it locally. Shipping was getting way too expensive :neutral:

asylumdown 10-30-2013 04:32 PM

Raied I have three bags of zeolites that you can have when I get home. Many moons ago when I set up my tank I waffled between going zeo or not. I even started buying some of the products (hence the three bags of zeolites). Then I realized that if it was something my tank needed every single day and I could not automate it with a doser, I was not going to be able to maintain it long term because A) I'm soooooooooo lazy and B) I go out of town a lot, often for long stretches.

I settled on biopellets in a recirculating reactor, which has proven to be the simplest, easiest, and lowest maintenance way to limit nutrients pretty much ever, which is what the number 1 criteria by which I judge something tank related these days. It's worked well, but I've had three bags of zeolite space taking up valuable drawer space ever since lol!

mrhasan 10-30-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by asylumdown (Post 855142)
Raied I have three bags of zeolites that you can have when I get home. Many moons ago when I set up my tank I waffled between going zeo or not. I even started buying some of the products (hence the three bags of zeolites). Then I realized that if it was something my tank needed every single day and I could not automate it with a doser, I was not going to be able to maintain it long term because A) I'm soooooooooo lazy and B) I go out of town a lot, often for long stretches.

I settled on biopellets in a recirculating reactor, which has proven to be the simplest, easiest, and lowest maintenance way to limit nutrients pretty much ever, which is what the number 1 criteria by which I judge something tank related these days. It's worked well, but I've had three bags of zeolite space taking up valuable drawer space ever since lol!

That would be awesome :D :D

Baker 11-03-2013 09:35 PM

I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I have been using quite a few zeo products for a few months now. I started with Pohl's Xtra and K-Balance. Noticed a difference in my tank right away. Then I bought some LPS Amino Acids. Corals looking even healthier. Then because I have so much Sps, I started adding Strontium Complex and Magnesium Complex. Havent had anything rtn since starting those two and sps was looking healthier. Now I have been reading about Coral Booster and Coral Snow so I picked up a bottle of each and started to dose that as of today. Keep in mind that I do use a good salt and still have been seeing a difference in my corals when it comes to PE and overall health. I also kept up on WC's before I started using Zeo so I know its not just that. The way I look at it, for the amount of money I spend on corals... Its worth it to spend a few hundred or more per year to keep them healthy. Just wanted to share my experience with the zeo line. Word.

kien 11-03-2013 10:42 PM

Good stuff! It's always nice to hear success stories like yours. How about some pics? :biggrin:

Baker 11-03-2013 11:08 PM

Forgot to mention that this is a 20 gallon frag tank that gets all of the nice treatment. My other tanks get nothing special but good ol' water changes. The frag tank has all my higher end sps in it. Just to clarify its not anything to brag about like some 200gal sps reef tank.

Madreefer 11-03-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baker (Post 856295)
Just to clarify its not anything to brag about like some 200gal sps reef tank.

Too late bud. We want pics. :lol:


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