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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 827841)

Used to be true.
But due to the changes in importation regulation, this is no longer the case as is mentioned in this thread.

No wonder why so many ppl pm'ed me when I posted my crocea last week! I should have asked for more! Haaha!

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Originally Posted by jjntm (Post 827864)

Importation laws have changed... this is correct... unless you have previously picked them up, it sounds like it will be a LONG time before getting any more... unless you are going to risk your own livelyhood and smuggle it accross the border, ****ting yourself the whole time wondering if you will be locked up for it...lol...

on a side note... I have debated selling mine for a bit, and am on the fence, as it looks out of place in my 220 gal sps dominant display tank, doesn't help that it is getting huge....Picture doesn't do it any justice, but this is the Ult grade XL Teardrop squamosa. Pic doesn't rly do it any justice as the color looks washed and dull in the photo. but here it is, paid $180 last year from fragalot when it was 2/3's the size it is now... pm me if interested.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/...pse0a02f3d.jpg

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/...ps137f0182.jpg

Here is a pic for more of size referencing, this is my 220 gal display, it is in front of the bottom right side of the archway (middle of tank)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/...psa4c4564e.jpg

the regulations arnt for squamosa's , and it is regional so the two species affected are t. maxima and t. crocea but only if canada does not already have an existing agreement with the country of origin.

this does not mean the end to clams or those species it just means some places are going to be harder to get them out of while some places are not affected at all.

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...highlight=clam

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 827867)

Supply and Demand.
If our supply has been cut off then demand will go up along with prices while availability goes down.

Talk to any LFS right now and they do not even know if/when they can bring in more maxima/crocea clams.

Your pictures are just making me want them more! :cry:

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 827870)

Talk to any LFS right now and they do not even know if/when they can bring in more maxima/crocea clams.

i work at a lfs and do the ordering for livestock, i get to see the order lists on a daily/weekly basis as they come in and i talk to the suppliers reguarily, i just did a maxima order of about 10 clams a few weeks ago , like i said its certain areas not all areas and its certain clams not all clams.

supply and demand has always been a factor long before regulations.

So you'll have 10 clams coming in at the same price as they used to sell for?
same quality and everything?

Exactly...
supply and demand.

Can you explain then how this will NOT affect supply and demand, since you clearly understand the concept?

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 827896)

again depends on where they come from and type of clams , like i said some clams wont make it to canada( tahiti ) while some will ( vietnam) and so i can still get certain clams from certain areas for yes the same price while some clams i could get years ago i cant get now.

a lfs may mark them up because of supply and demand ( as always) but not all will.

this may change as we negotiate with the countrys of origin but not a guarantee.

i have been working with some suppliers who are trying to get the proper paper work between our countrys and theirs but isnt a fast or easy process.

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 827896)

when did i say it wouldnt effect supply or demand now your just putting words in my mouth. i said supply and demand was always a factor and that will never change , what one store marks up to another is their own thing so demand in YOUR area may be diff then mine no?

this is quoted from your thread sure from one of the key players in clam imports into canada

" The issue with T. maxima and T. crocea is a result of the new Health of Animals Regulations that are overseen by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. These molluscs are on the susceptible species list due to the fact that they can carry Perkinsus olseni.

The new regulations require an import permit (separate from CITES) from a country of origin that has a negotiated agreement with the Canadian government. All imports will require the import permit as well as a health certificate from the approved country of origin.

This still means that the two species of clams are available for import. Just now it requires a little bit more work."

So my point here is that due to regulatory changes, clams would be harder and more expensive to get and would be seen less frequently than in the past.

What is yours?