Yeah, I have to agree with you that the Mitras probably won't be replaced as quickly as most of the others have, and I would definitely be counting on software upgrades that GHL has always been very good about doing. Maybe there will be some special holiday pricing so I feel better about this hobby sucking the guts out of my wallet. Sometimes I have to shake my head when I think of all the money I spend on my tank! :lol:

I'm definitely turned off the AI products, they are changing too much. I think they need to spend more time in production. I haven't been very impressed by tanks lit by these LEDs either.

I was thinking there must be more coming with the Radion Pro since $300 for a handful of UV lights just doesn't make sense, but maybe not? I know I'm not willing to pay $300 just for that. I know those particular LEDs are pricey, but come on now. I'm interested to see if there are other upgrades to the Pro model when it comes out. The reliability issues with the G1 kinda turn me off the Radion though...good customer service or not.

The Pros will also have yellow LEDs but I didn't give credit for that.

Here is the link spoken about this is the latest page but best start from the beginning it will give a better idea of independant reviews

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post20950667

I honesty don't think that the price for the mitras is actually worth the bottom line is if they dropped the price a lot you would get more people buying the LEDs and that pretty much the truth on that. I can pretty much guarantee u could have everyone on canreef on LEDs if u drop the price to a normal price paying 800. Bucks for 1 light is kinda crazy and now u have the pro radion and now the mitras which is a lot of money but that is my opinion

Not going to get further involved in this thread but price point is important to cover - Unfortunately the cost will not be coming down, the Mitras especially took 2 years of development just to start, then you get into the patented parts that are used to provide the same effect you would with T5. then dont get me started on the linear dimming curve, then the up to 40" end user reported spread from one fixture etc etc.

Then there is the individually hand made side of things.............. :wink:

Following this thread as I am looking for a LED fixture too right now, and I'm a Profilux 3EX owner.

I have a hard time justifying the price tag, especially in comparison with other fixtures... twice the price of the Radion G2, three times the price of an A350 etc... but given the great reviews of the Mitras so far, it is an interesting option. Particularly because of the high spread and PAR shown by Rodney on RC and the lack of spot lighting.

I have heard some concerns about electrical components not being isolated from the fan, like they are in the Radion. Also, some have complained about the location of the USB port.

The fans suck air in from the top (fresh air) and blow down and aross the board and out the sides, the unit is also advertised for non enclosed tanks so you will not have one single issue.

The USB port is for limited use, once programmed you do not have to use it again and once the unit is wireless enabled then other than for firmware you will never use it.

The price comes from all the plus points you mention for sure. spread etc etc

Hope that helps ;)

See mike that is why you are the provider with all the answers.

Thank you for sharing. I really like your methodical approach in sharing your new build... With regards to the Mitras can you tell me if the spread is as good as they advertise and is the blending of the lights anywhere close to resembling the t5s as the pictures from what I have seen so far are hard to tell. I have had the chance to see some very nice tanks using t5s and i have not seen any LED lights (IMO) so far being able to mimic t5 lighting.

If they are the real deal would you hang two lights length wise parallel to the display or width wise like how you have them set up on your tank?

Thanks

Wayne

The spread is huge on these fixtures, you could cover my tank with two fixtures (64x32) but I feel three is better number given the depth (32) and the demand required for an SPS dominant tank. There's a picture of a 40" x 40" tank with a single fixture given complete coverage. I'm not going to reconfigure my fixtures for a demonstration, too much work would be required in regards to mounting given some limitations I have on space above.

I think I've mentioned color blending a few times now. In regards to comparing to T5s, not sure it can be done. They are completely different and offer more similarities to Halides than T5s. The lack of optics and larger spread design does reduce spotlight and shimmer effects compared to other LED fixtures so perhaps the Mitras is what you're looking for but maybe not. If T5s are really what you like then why not run T5s?