When did we trade in the old world? did we get much for it?

The problem was you went to a public forum, the vendor's forum, to rant without all the facts. No one jumped on you but many came to the defense of a good local LFS that they felt you wronged, myself included.

lol its too depressing

I got the same first inpression from OA and it was also my last impression as I never included it on my shopping lists again. I agree who hartedly that you shouldn't have to turn sideways in a store to move around and it should be tidy. the store aperance and tidyness normaly reflects the care towards there products.

Steve