now the next set of pictures i will show you why i cant t have a sump and if i can go aio type as suggested by nano

Aquascape looks much better, makes your tank look way more open, plus I don't think you'll have any dead spots(low or no flow) with the open rock work

yeah thats exactly what i had in mind, hey do you think this setup would do well with a single vortech mp10

not sure, lol never used one, depends on placement, and GPH rating, but with 2 aquaclears as well, I think youd have lots of flow.

Just my opinion but i would ditch the hang on filters because i would be scared of them filling with crud and go with the mp40(or something with similar flow) and just shoot for lots of random flow .With the open rock work and lots of flow ,thats the best biological filter . I was using alot of rock and 2 koralia 1400 in my 55 with too many fish and nitrates and phosphates never went over 0 and i got great growth from my zoas , acans and other corals.

true they can collect a lot of crap, but thats where your maintenance comes into play, I had an ac70 on my 16 gallon, and cleaned it when I did water changes never had any issues

i am still looking into the flow thing

koralias work great (and are cheap) and run quiet and the new ones can be used with a wavemaker suposedly

does anyone have any idea as to how much a nice led set would cost me from modular led
i would really like to make something for my tank led based if anyone has any ideas or can tell me what kind of package to get it would be amazing
getiing a vertex went out the window today
so now looking at radions and ai sols
but i would really like a diy project

hey if anyone wants the marineland leds i will trade them for a digital aquatics controller l1 and some frags
it has to be done locally in burnaby

also take note about 6 leds dont work they are not broken or anything its just the adaptor is wrong