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dsaundry 04-30-2011 07:49 PM

I actually do use garlic, have to use it with some frozen as well as pellets, I havent run into ich this stubborn or severe before. the count is 2 tangs, 2 clowns, 2 damsels, and I am watching one other clown who isn't looking very well.

Madreefer 04-30-2011 08:45 PM

5 years ago I lost all of the fish in my tank due to ich. I'm with Naesco and Myka on the garlic. I use about 4 drops of Kent Garlic Extreme on every "supper" feedings and have never seen ich again.

Myka 04-30-2011 09:42 PM

Well, your options are:

a) Remove corals and inverts and treat the fish and live rock with hyposalinity for 6 weeks.
b) Remove fish to a quarantine tank to treat for 6 weeks.
c) Use a "reef-safe" Ich cure (none are overly effective, or at least not for everyone).
d) Employ a much larger UV sterilizer.
e) Try to incorporate more garlic to a more varied diet.

dsaundry 04-30-2011 10:01 PM

I think I will increase garlic and cross fingers...all I can really do at this time I think.:cry:

TimT 04-30-2011 10:17 PM

HI Darryl,

How old is the bulb in the UV? If over a year replace it. I would then place a fluval 302 into the tank and run the water through the UV and then back into tank.

Myka's advice on raising temp is good. Just as long as the tank doesnt go to 85 during the day.

Cheers,
Tim

dsaundry 05-01-2011 12:44 AM

uv bulb only a couple of months old, temp usually will stay at 80 but can go a degree or 2 within that. Usually very stable. Will see what happens over the next few days.

Myka 05-01-2011 12:55 AM

If you were closer I would lend you a spare 55w UV sterilizer I have sitting in the corner. Run them in-line and that extra kick might be enough. Know anyone with a UV they could lend you?

fishytime 05-01-2011 01:18 AM

Im probably gonna pi$$ off some people with this but......oh well:mrgreen:.....there is absolutely no scientific evidence that says garlic is in anyway medicinal to fish.....these claims are purely anecdotal....... http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f1...ess-14807.html .......if you still feel that garlic is the magic cure all for ick than fresh garlic is the only way to go......garlic extreme and garlic extract are useless http://forums.saltwaterfish.com/wiki...c-in-fish-food ....... in fact un-scientific tests have suggested that prolonged feeding of garlic may cause liver damage in fish http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1874623.......

naesco 05-01-2011 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 610577)
Im probably gonna pi$$ off some people with this but......oh well:mrgreen:.....there is absolutely no scientific evidence that says garlic is in anyway medicinal to fish.....these claims are purely anecdotal....... http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f1...ess-14807.html .......if you still feel that garlic is the magic cure all for ick than fresh garlic is the only way to go......garlic extreme and garlic extract are useless http://forums.saltwaterfish.com/wiki...c-in-fish-food ....... in fact un-scientific tests have suggested that prolonged feeding of garlic may cause liver damage in fish http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1874623.......

I read the references you quoted.
The first reference is over 8 years old.
The second article does not mention garlic extreme. Garlic extract is concentrated garlic and would be much stronger than than garlic juice.
The third article talks about possible problems with prolonged use. I am not suggesting prolonged use of garlic.

This reefers fish are dying and he is seeking help. Based on my personal experience I have been successful in defeating ich as detailed in my earlier post.

Myka 05-01-2011 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 610577)
there is absolutely no scientific evidence that says garlic is in anyway medicinal to fish

The ornamental marine hobby isn't supported by a whole lot of scientific evidence as a whole. I'm not sure if your claim is accurate or not, but garlic works for me. :wink:


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