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Xenia 03-19-2011 07:45 AM

I think he was just referring to this post
PaddyOB's Acan Lords ***Growth Tracking w/ Fauna Marin (formerly using Acan Plus)***, but was polite enough not to hijack that thread and posted it elsewhere instead.

It doesn't really sound like he is bashing anybody here, just making a simple statement.

JMes 03-19-2011 07:50 AM

Some people have misinterpreted my post and blowing things way out of proportion. I was just asked to respond to Paddyod thread as he had some questions and concerns about the ingredients .http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...550&page=5were
I didn't want to hijack this growth thread, so I opened a new one. There is no bashing of other companies or drama. I was simply answering some questions.
Also some seem to misinterprete my sarcasm with complaining:razz:

ScubaSteve 03-19-2011 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMes (Post 599732)
In fact I do not make any money off selling this
food. Whatever I make goes back into buying the ingredients. I don't get
paid for the labour, time and effort that goes into the production of the
food.

This is called boot-strapped organic growth. At some point you'll hit an economy of scale where you're making enough product that you actually start to earn some cash. I'd like to see you do this because then it will be a worthwhile venture for you to keep making freakin' awesome products for people. If you're not making any money and life all of a sudden gets busy, where is the incentive?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMes (Post 599732)
There are over 10 different ingredients in
Acan Plus (soon will be 13 as I am working on a new formula).
It took me a long time to find out what the corals prefer to eat, which
ingredient entices them or stimulates their growth.

This is continual innovation of a competitive advantage. Keep it up, keep the big guys guessing, make us some wicked products.

naesco 03-19-2011 10:09 AM

With a lot of the food available to feed our fish coming in from China (why would a LFS bring it in) and Japan it is great to see a fellow reefer doing this and making a product that really works.
Keep up the good work.

Wayne

reefwars 03-19-2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMes (Post 599732)
I am not a company. I am a hobbyist.

That makes a big difference. A company's way of doing things would be to use
the cheapest ingredients possible and stretch it with fillers, so they can
make the biggest profit.

I do this because my love for LPS corals, espeically my acans. I don't make
coral food for the money. In fact I do not make any money off selling this
food. Whatever I make goes back into buying the ingredients. I don't get
paid for the labour, time and effort that goes into the production of the
food.
My personal goal is, and always will be, to make the highest quality food to
promote the greatest amount of growth and just have healthy beautiful corals
PERIOD. I believe the growth and size of my corals speak for themselves.

I am not going to BS anybody by using cheesy marketing slogans or promote my
food using words like "roids", "ultra" and "ultimate". I am not a wrestling
promoter, you know...
Or showing a video of dropping a pellet onto an "Ultra Acan". I can drop any
kind of pellet on an Acan and of course it will eventually eat it. That does
not say much about the quality of the food and how it will promote the
health and growth of your corals. But isn't that the whole point in feeding your corals?

Certain people endorsing Fauna Marin should get their facts straight. Acan
Plus is NOT a "simple cocktail of other already marketed products". I should
know, because like all coral owners, I used to try all those products in a
desperate attempt to keep my corals healthy, but only with poor results.
That's when I decided to do some research and make my own coral food from scratch.

There is nothing "simple" about my food. It takes me an average of 6 hours
to make 12 bottles of Acan Plus. There are over 10 different ingredients in
Acan Plus (soon will be 13 as I am working on a new formula).
It took me a long time to find out what the corals prefer to eat, which
ingredient entices them or stimulates their growth.
I also only use the highest quality ingredients available. For the record
there is NO Artemia, NO Zooplankton or Phytoplankton powder in Acan Plus. Most
coral products contain these because they are cheap fillers.

Somebody said "ANYTHING could be in there."
Wrong. I don't just put anything in my food. Every single ingredient has been
tested extensively for its nutritional value to promote the greatest amount
of growth. Keep in mind that I put the same food I'm selling into my own
tank every day and I am definitely not putting "just anything" in there.

I have been working on this food for years now. I do not disclose anything
on how I process and make the food, because I am not giving big companies
like Fauna Marin tips on how to copy me.
I have already seen Fauna Marin referring to their new acan food as "Ultra
Acan Plus" and using my description and text almost word for word.
Should I just hand them my recipe as well?






love it and keep up the good work, we need more hobbyst like your self:) cheers mate:)

ponokareefer 03-19-2011 01:50 PM

How can I get my hands on this product? My new brain was being fed with it and growing great.

fishoholic 03-19-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 599800)

If you want Acan+ to stand out from the rest it's going to require some transparency and your current excuse for a blank ingredient list isn't cutting it. If Fauna Marine truly wants to steal your ingredient list let them, you already stated you don't do this for the money so clearly they can't compete with your prices.

IMO the results from using acan plus make this product stand out far above the rest.

Why on earth would he give away his trade secrets for others to copy? Company's like KFC are not going to give up their secret ingredients that makes their chicken recipe stand out from the rest so why should he give up his ingredient list. He worked hard on his formula and everyone who has used has had great results with it, personally I don't care what's in it I'm just glad it works as well as it does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponokareefer (Post 599822)
How can I get my hands on this product? My new brain was being fed with it and growing great.

Red Coral Stores sell Acan plus.

RedCoralOnlineStore 03-19-2011 03:34 PM

For those of you looking, Acan Plus is available on RedCoral Online. I have had numerous emails about shipping on Acan Plus. Perhaps get a couole of yourselves together and order a few at a time to split the shipping.
Jason(Jmes) is an outstanding individual with a great product. Keep up the good work.

Ryan 03-19-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 599831)
IMO the results from using acan plus make this product stand out far above the rest.

Why on earth would he give away his trade secrets for others to copy? Company's like KFC are not going to give up their secret ingredients that makes their chicken recipe stand out from the rest so why should he give up his ingredient list. He worked hard on his formula and everyone who has used has had great results with it, personally I don't care what's in it I'm just glad it works as well as it does.



Red Coral Stores sell Acan plus.




He has already given out his recipe by allowing the product to sell public. You dont think Fauna Marin could pick the food apart and figure out whats in it at what ratio?

All you would have to do is put it under a microscope and it would show what is in the food.



Now correct me if I am wrong here but isnt it Law that ingredients must be listed on product in Canada?

Skimmerking 03-19-2011 03:51 PM

J Well I like your stuff you know that I'm sick about ACANs too ,we might as well be brothers. I called Jmes up one day and asked him what am I dong to my acans they are dying on me. i told him what I was feeding and he offered to send me some food to try out and man what wver it was i didn't care all my acans came back and the ones that were down to near death.

Keep doing what you re doing man. i support you all the way.


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