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Bob I 12-04-2003 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmilyB
A larger spectrum of blue...aka actinic IS desired by some anemones (refer to Joyce Wilkerson). It is also the most esthetic part of lighting the reef for me, aside from moonlight.

IMO she is wrong, and can't get to me anyway :biggrin: , I feel the chloropyll just has to work harder when you only supply blue light. Now indeed over eons the corals may have adapted to these frequencies, but IMO they will do at least as well under full specrtum lighting. And we can argue until we are blue in the face, but are unlikely to be able to prove each other wrong. In the final analysis it comes down to opinion, and BTW I too like the blue lighting aesthetics wise. :mrgreen:

EmilyB 12-04-2003 05:33 AM

I wasn't talking corals Bob. Just anemones.

And over the five years that I have kept several species, they do thrive under actinic light, which would agree with Wilkerson's findings.

Samw 12-04-2003 05:42 AM

It would make sense to me that photosynthetic animals found in deeper parts of the ocean depend more on blue light.

Bob I 12-04-2003 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmilyB
I wasn't talking corals Bob. Just anemones.

And over the five years that I have kept several species, they do thrive under actinic light, which would agree with Wilkerson's findings.

Just to satisfy my curiosity, has anyone kept them under full spectrum lighting with preferably the same PAR values. That would be the scientific method, and then the results would satisfy me. :rolleyes:

Samw 12-04-2003 06:00 AM

Under Iwasaki

http://reefcentral.com/forums/attach...&postid=678281

3 years later under 20k

http://reefcentral.com/forums/attach...&postid=678302

Chad 12-04-2003 07:06 AM

Its too bad I cannot see the photos..

Chad

Samw 12-04-2003 07:07 AM

Here's an interesting experiment using blue, green, yellow, and red LEDs shining on different parts of the same coral. The effect was that the red light bleached that part of the coral whereas the blue light made it turn brighter pink.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...03/feature.htm

Excerpts:

On Day 28, coral fragments were again examined under the light of the dive light and filters. The area illuminated by the blue LED had strong chlorophyll red fluorescence. Normal, but not elevated, chlorophyll fluorescence was noted on the fragment illuminated by the green LED. The bleached area illuminated by the red LED remained, as it did on Day 22, apparently free of zooxanthellae and no chlorophyll fluorescence was noted.

On Day 31, a spot of pink coloration (~5 mm in diameter) was noted at the area illuminated by the blue LED (see Figure 4). Since that day, the spot has intensified in coloration but not size.

Procedure - Round Two

It was decided that the second round of the experiment would utilize only the blue and red LEDs, plus an LED producing ultraviolet radiation.

On Day 71, it was found that the coral areas under the blue LED had gained pink coloration, and the area illuminated by the red LED had lost more zooxanthellae – it had bleached (See Figures 6 and 7). No visible changes were observed within the area irradiated by the UV LED.

Discussion

The results of this experiment suggest that narrow bandwidths of essentially ‘pure’ red and blue wavelengths have profoundly different effects on zooxanthellae health and host tissue pigmentation.

It appears that red light induced bleaching in the two experiments. It is also worthy to note that bleaching was noticed on Day 22 and Day 23 of the first and second set of experiments, respectively, even when red LED lamp intensity differed by ~20%.
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The reasons for corals’ production of a pink pigment under blue light are not as easily explained - a theory could be advanced that some corals (likely only those genetically predisposed – see Takabayashi and Hoegh-Guldberg, 1995) react to blue light by the manufacture of reflective/fluorescent pigments.

Samw 12-04-2003 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad
Its too bad I cannot see the photos..

Chad


Hm, here's the thread.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hlight=tapetum


The pics are:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/attach...&postid=678281

http://reefcentral.com/forums/attach...&postid=678302

Bob I 12-05-2003 03:29 PM

There is one thing that would shoot giant holes in my argument. I am basing my argument on terrestrial Chlorophyll. If there is such a thing a aquatic chlorophyll, which reacts to blue light, my argument would not work.
If someone knows of such a thing, I would hope he/she will post it, and make this thread educational instead of just argumentative. :rolleyes:

Samw 12-05-2003 04:28 PM

Didn't the experiment just show that the red and green in the spectrum either did nothing more for the coral or bleached the coral while the blue light increased the chlorophyll?


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