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Bloodasp 10-10-2010 08:36 PM

Unless fish talk pretty much the way you can tell they are happy is what you said already, they eat and swim.

Coleus 10-10-2010 09:04 PM

I will just leave it is then. thanks all

kien 10-10-2010 10:22 PM

I'm with everyone else. If your tank isn't going south then I wouldn't worry about your Ph. It will just aggravate you! Oh wait, it already has! :lol:

Seriously though, for as long as I have been in this hobby I have never ever tried to adust PH. My PH swings from 7.6 at night to 8.04 is what it is sitting at right now. It may go higher I don't know I never really pay attention to it.

But in case you do end up throwing in the towel can you throw it my way? I could use more towels! :D

daniella3d 10-11-2010 02:29 AM

If you have this problem since you started using the biopellets, then why not take a break from it and see if the PH come back to normal level?

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Originally Posted by Coleus (Post 555278)
yes i have cheato and mangroves with reverse light cycle in my refugium, although the cheato has been shrinking due to bio-pellets


Myka 10-11-2010 04:05 AM

Personally, it's on a rare occasion that I will mess with pH directly in a reef tank by adding pH altering chemicals. Steady pH is more important than proper pH, although 7.7 is getting a bit concerning. There are many things that will lower pH, but the most common are:

~ CO2 build up
~ Organic breakdown

Both issues can usually be solved by a good quality skimmer (off gasses CO2 from the tank increases oxygen), fresh air in the house (lowers CO2 in the house increases oxygen), proper water flow, and good maintenance routines.

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Originally Posted by Coleus (Post 555260)
I know as long my alk is high i should not worry about my ph is being low.

Not true. Alkalinity buffers the pH, it doesn't directly alter it. That means higher alkalinity will make pH more resistant to change either up or down. There are some alkalinity buffers that will directly alter the pH (like SeaChem Marine Buffer 8.3).

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Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 555376)
If you have this problem since you started using the biopellets, then why not take a break from it and see if the PH come back to normal level?

Agreed.

If you don't have an algae problem, why are you using Bio Pellets anyway? It is for the 5 ppm nitrate? That seems hardly enough to interfere with Bio Pellets imo. I'm not sold on these Bio Pellets yet though - I've seen more trouble than good with them so far. Maybe Bio Pellets also lower pH? Maybe it is a coincidence?

amoreira 10-11-2010 04:23 AM

Vigorous aeration by your skimmer helps pH. Using a refugium with macro algae and lots of light on at night helps too. If you keep the alkalinity higher, then pH swings will be less too. Check your probe calibration and make sure there are no electrical current leaks in your system that may cause your probe reading to go off.

untamed 10-11-2010 05:44 PM

I'll add my $.02 to say that my experience with adding Kalk overnight has taught me that this will work....to a degree... I've found the Kalk in my reactor is effective for about 2 weeks, then I have to replace it with new Kalk. You should be able to measure the pH of the Kalk at something like 13+.

mark 10-11-2010 07:29 PM

Been a long time since looked at my pH, like others said if tank not showing problems don't worry (and even if did have problems could be a lot more than pH).

mattdean 10-12-2010 01:29 PM

Well, it's morning and my PH is 7.84 and never gets much past 8 or 8.1. My tank is very healthy - all fish and corals are happy. I was told long time ago, forget about PH if everything looks good. It's big swings in PH you need to worry about.

Myka 10-12-2010 04:13 PM

pH is never the cause of issues, but the result of issues.


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