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Albertan22 09-24-2010 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 550936)
I'm a big fan of an RO unit not only for the tank but for your family, I have a Kinetico VX system running for the tank and the Kinetico K5 for drinking water.

It might sound snobbish but I can't drink tap water now, It just tastes to funny after having water that is completely filtered. If you get the chance to go to a Kinetico retailer they will let you have a side by side taste comparison of both waters, this was the selling point for me.

I'm lucky in that my tap water is pretty good for drinking, but I've lived in places that we've had to filter it. You want to be careful drinking RO/DI because you're removing all the minerals, ions, etc, including both the good and the bad. Your body actually needs many of the substances filtered from the water. If you're going to drink RO/DI water over the long term, you should talk to a nutrition expert about supplements.

In regards to a reef tank, I'd go with the RO/DI unit. You don't really know what's in your tapwater. By filtering it, you start with a clean slate, and control the substances in your water through your salt mix.

intarsiabox 09-24-2010 03:37 AM

The directions for my 4 stage RO/DI systems was to only drink the water that goes through the particulate, carbon and RO membrane and not the DI filter. My tap water tastes great and I don't care for the taste of RO but it's nice to have in the event of a contaminated water supply and it also makes great coffee!

Zoaelite 09-24-2010 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Albertan22 (Post 551050)
I'm lucky in that my tap water is pretty good for drinking, but I've lived in places that we've had to filter it. You want to be careful drinking RO/DI because you're removing all the minerals, ions, etc, including both the good and the bad. Your body actually needs many of the substances filtered from the water. If you're going to drink RO/DI water over the long term, you should talk to a nutrition expert about supplements.

In regards to a reef tank, I'd go with the RO/DI unit. You don't really know what's in your tapwater. By filtering it, you start with a clean slate, and control the substances in your water through your salt mix.

The Kinetico has an additional Mineral Cartridge that add's back the necessary minerals for you, thanks for the heads up though!

Albertan22 09-24-2010 09:31 PM

Cool, I didn't know that, maybe I'll have to look at them.

StirCrazy 09-25-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Albertan22 (Post 551050)
. You want to be careful drinking RO/DI because you're removing all the minerals, ions, etc, including both the good and the bad. Your body actually needs many of the substances filtered from the water. If you're going to drink RO/DI water over the long term, you should talk to a nutrition expert about supplements.

thats actualy an old wife's tale started by mineral water companies. if you eat you get more than enough minerals from your food.

Steve

reefwars 09-25-2010 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 551298)
thats actualy an old wife's tale started by mineral water companies. if you eat you get more than enough minerals from your food.

Steve


true i would think alot of our food is water based anyways:)

kylejordan 09-27-2010 06:38 PM

I've got a home made DI Filter, RO is nice but I find it unneccesary, my filter litterally cost me like 55 bucks for filters chambers and plumbing, and my TDS is 13ppm going in and 0 coming out! most of the parts you can get from Rona or Homedepot and the filters you get from your LFS. mine is 2 chamber large particle filter followed by DI, it runs fast clean and quick!

frd72 09-27-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kylejordan (Post 551681)
I've got a home made DI Filter, RO is nice but I find it unneccesary, my filter litterally cost me like 55 bucks for filters chambers and plumbing, and my TDS is 13ppm going in and 0 coming out! most of the parts you can get from Rona or Homedepot and the filters you get from your LFS. mine is 2 chamber large particle filter followed by DI, it runs fast clean and quick!

I think i will agree with this. I have a 4 stage RO/DI and the waste water is just crazy not environment friendly. I read couple of articles too that RO and DI does same thing. So on the weekend i tried disconnecting the RO, then install the TDS meter after DI and this was the result:
Before: IN- 13 OUT- 0
After: IN- 12 or 13 OUT - 0 or 1
less waste and good for the environment. hopefully it will work out..
Just my reaction...\\:biggrin:

StirCrazy 09-28-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frd72 (Post 551705)
. I read couple of articles too that RO and DI does same thing.

Same sort of result but not the same thing, and there is a lot of stuff the ro strips out that a DI won't touch.

RO strips all the minerals/chemicals out of the water and leaves you with nothing but pure water. DI is a Ion exchange process where salts are replaced with Hydrogen making your water acidic and then the next resin makes it normal.

in industry where DI is called for is polishing ro water as a DI doesent remove a lot of the contamanants so you use the RO to remove the bulk and then a DI to remove anything else. on its own a DI will not last very log at all.

We used DI water for out boilers as it has to be absolutly cleen water, but the water went through a RO first down to about 5ppm then went through a two stage DI, mixed bed resins are very inefficient, the best way to do it would be to have one resin then the next resin in a different cartrage.

Steve

frd72 09-28-2010 08:29 PM

Thanks for another good information. But i am going to try it anyway, my water bill went sky rocket because of the waste water...:mrgreen:


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