Truthfully the only thing i found really cool about this is that other planets
are experiancing global warming as well.
even if it is part our fault that ours is working at a much higher rate it still shows its not all our fault right?:question:

I think it's all the metal halide users and I'm in that boat as well. Maybe if we all switch to LED together AND establish ideal husbandry with our inner higher selves all will be well with the planet?

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Can we make this into a Smilie?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/...910e1991b0.jpg

:lol: I knew that one was someplace. The smilie one was all I could find in a hurry.

And when the Sun becomes a red giant then all the nay sayers are going to believe in global warming. (Doubt it) :wink:

"Truthfully the only thing i found really cool about this is that other planets
are experiancing global warming as well."
even if it is part our fault that ours is working at a much higher rate it still shows its not all our fault right?"

Some planets are cooling example Mars, Venus on the other hand, became super heated because of cloud cover.

It has to do with how fast the temperatures are changing over a given period of time.

this is a funny post as I was actualy listining to a news program ont he radio the other day with a couple of Canada's formost experts on climat change. what was interesting is that the only experts crying that we are causing climat change is the ones that are sponcered by goverments and it was aluded to that they were doing it to get more funding grants.

the main guy on the show (can't remember his name) makes his mark by verifying or disproving results, and is highly regarded and his organization has started to rate creditability of different climat scientests. he has found a lot of the people touting climat change and when have to act now are fudging data to suport there claims and when he started to review the ones that say it is a natural cycle he found there research was solid (this is on average on both sides) so he has started looking harder into it and has found there is more evidence to disprove man made climat change than he ever expected. as a result of his research there have been some changes in attitude by the G30 and other world organizations.

Steve

Yes and many of the scientist and think-tanks trying to disprove climate change are funded indirectly by oil companies. And although I dont like to say it, when it comes to issues of societal safety I would trust the government over a corporation.

Climate change is still a hypothesis. You will find people to argue both sides.

Personally I feel the argument that man is causing or contributing to global warming is too big to ignore. Even if they are wrong.....it's called risk management.

actualy this guy is funded by a university in ontario, and his comitment is to stay impartial and he won't take any extra funding from either side, he was quite adament on that. I simpily cannot believe that when we have some of the formost climate research being done by a canadian which is changing the way we think on some things that people cannot accept it. or for that matter even concider it.

here are a few things to thing about.. I was watching the tv, a show on huge vocano eruptions and there effect through out history. (yes I watch a lot of nature/history/ect programming.)

anyways Anak Krakatau erupted in 1883, it erupted more than 18 cubic km of ash to a height of 80 km, and produced a tsunami as high as 30 m. the side effect of this was to raise CO2 in the atmosphere to about 5X the present levels which they found through sampling ice in the artic from that time period. so the question remains if we are producing CO2 and it is destroying out climat, where did all that CO2 go from the eruption?

Now befor people get up in arms, yes I believe in climat change, after all 0.7 degrees celcius rize over the last 20 years is something. but I also believe that it is part of a natural cycle. are we helping.. not nessaraly, I don't believe we are causing it but we may be helping it if you know what I mean. I am for reduction and such as long as it doesnt finatualy hurt me.

now another thing to concider.. remember the big hole in the ozone. a lot of good things came out of that scare. different trypes of refrigeration, acelerated technology to make and be able to use thoes new products. but when all was said and done it was a natural cycle and when it should have been increasing at its highest rate it was closing.

there is to much people don't know about how the world works, with thousand of volcanoes that make Krakatau look like a party favor in terms of effect on our planet and the subsequent fact that we are still here must hold some weight.

Steve

There is so much people don't know....exactly. So how can you believe that global warming is not man made? The thing here is that scientists are spending their whole lives studying these issues such as global warming and they do not have a clear answer for us......so how can I have a clear answer as to whether it is man made or not. It's like asking if God exits. A whole lot of people change there lives because they have FAITH that God exits. So here we are with scientists in both camps telling us different things.....were does that leave us. As far as I'm concerned (and anyone else should be), there is a probable chance that climate change is man made. Any chance that we are going to commit catastrophic events in the future should be avoided don't you think? Or should we just roll the dice and jump in our gas guzzlin SUV?

Besides I think we should be treating our planet better all around....even if climate change wasnt an issue.

Is the GULF still spewing out oil?