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Aquattro 11-23-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mark (Post 466970)
obviously overstating but in the Federal Gov't this goes under equity placement assumed to make up for past hiring so we have a more equally representative work force.

Yes, we had the same one legged individual in the provincial gov :). But we can't confuse politically correct equity placement with equality. The basis of equality, as far as the workforce goes, should be equal oppurtunity and equal compensation for equal effort. That's just my take on it though :)

Aquattro 11-23-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elitesurfer (Post 466974)
toss a coin? :p

That is the fairest solution :)

robert 11-23-2009 11:02 PM

Good, but very ambiguous question, without the context :cry:

BlueAbyss 11-23-2009 11:04 PM

Hmm. I voted equality is beneficial, but there are some major differences between men and women (besides the obvious physical differences, refering more to less obvious [or are they :wink:] psychological and subtle physical differences). For this reason, I may have voted differently given more context.

sphelps 11-23-2009 11:28 PM

In what context and how do you define equality?

Is providing all kinds financial aid to the minority a form of equality? What about employment? Every application I've seen has a check box for minority, a clear sign that a qualified minority will beat you out for that job even if your qualifications are better.

If it's related to gender how is it defined? In my field and many others women have the advantage because of equality since they are the minority.

I don't get the question, might get more of what you're looking for if you were more specific.

Myka 11-24-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 466989)
In what context and how do you define equality?

This is the fun part. I left it open because I mean all equality. Gender, race, religion, disability, sexuality, social status, etc. All of it. If someone said we are tossing out all equality; we are removing the word from the dictionary (so to speak) would you be for this decision or against it? Do you think all these different types of equality benefit our society or does it create more problems?

iansfishy 11-24-2009 12:34 AM

even to state that there is equality in todays society is being very idealistic. It is human nature to go the path of least resistance, even if that path is to choose someone or something over someone else so you dont catch flack about it later. It may not always be the best choice. Really there is no such thing as equality, there is ALWAYS a faster, stronger, smarter version of ones self. Pulling a race or gender card to get a job or anything for that matter is just one of those things, that in todays society counts as an upper hand. You may not be the biggest, strongest, fastest or smartest or the most qualified BUT you are the path of least resistance, and you are the one working! I feel like to have those poll questions be relavent you would have to live in fantasy land. I am all for women being able to get any job in the workforce, but only based on the basics - ability to do the job well, and speed at which that job is done. If someone is better, learn from that experience, and come back better next time.

lorenz0 11-24-2009 12:49 AM

get rid of religion and 50% of the worlds problems would be solved

but i believe in capitalism. If someone is going to work their ass off to achieve something they desirve the reward. Doesn't matter what sex/race or what ever they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT4Fu...eature=related

Equality is just making up rules that you have to live by. But on the other side people do take advantage of their "power" which in turn creates more problems.

and yes equalibrium is one of my favorite movies

sphelps 11-24-2009 01:13 AM

You can't remove equality, it's part of evolution. Society has come a long way, eliminating all equality would put us back to the stone age. I believe it goes too far at times but you're asking for a vote on two sides of the absolute extreme, nobody would have voted against if you made that clear from the start.

I take it you're against some part of equality for some reason, usually people only start these kinds of threads if they have a problem with something. Care to share?

Myka 11-24-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 467022)
You can't remove equality, it's part of evolution. Society has come a long way, eliminating all equality would put us back to the stone age. I believe it goes too far at times but you're asking for a vote on two sides of the absolute extreme, nobody would have voted against if you made that clear from the start.

I take it you're against some part of equality for some reason, usually people only start these kinds of threads if they have a problem with something. Care to share?

Yep, extremes for sure. It wouldn't take us back to the stone age, but maybe back 100-150 years.

I don't have a problem. I do have thoughts on the subject. I just haven't figured out how to express it in a short burst of typing rather than a long conversation. :lol:


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