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new but handy 10-22-2009 04:24 AM

Hey sphelps
not too many people in Van have to water their lawns:lol:

SeaHorse_Fanatic 10-22-2009 06:16 AM

I've NEVER watered my lawn in Burnaby :redface::razz:

Water is for putting INTO aquariums, not wasting on grass that we then have to cut, IMHO.

Veng68 10-22-2009 08:30 AM

I do water my lawn but only on prescribed days and times. Gotta keep the grass healthy or those damn european chaffer beetle grubs start killing it and then the stupid crows start digging up the lawn.

I hate those grubs :(

Cheers,
Vic

StirCrazy 10-22-2009 02:46 PM

do they just want to add meter or actualy put them inside your house? I would be hesident about letting them put a water meter inside the house. maybe ask them for proof that there insurance will cover any water dammage due to anything they have installed or modifyed, and get it in writing.

so if the water meter springs a leak and floods your house.. the city picks up the tab, not your insurance.

we had meters in victoria but they were underground at the property line, I always assumed that everyone in BC was on meters untill I moved to kamloops, now there going to have a hard time to get me on to one. in some ways I think it is a good idea, and in some ways I think it is a bad one..

right now I pay a city utility fee twice a year that covers sewer, water, garbage, ect. the city sets the rates based on the actual operating costs.

with meters the water and sewer will be tied to actual usage, so if you waist a lot of water you should pay a little more, if you are semi water concious then you will pay less.

also after living in victoria for 20 years and not being able to have a nice lawn in the summer as the ground was to sandy and couldn't hold mositure, I want a nice lawn. now who ever said 1/2" a week is out to lunch. it takes 1" of water to penatrate 6 to 8" in loam soil and you want to get a penatration dept of 8" or more. the trick is deep waterings spread apart. twice a week. I find the sprinklers in my new house are set to go every second day, but I haven't figured out how much water yet, but my lawn sure looks nice.

So this way I would apposed to meters as I want to water my grass the optimal amount, but everywhere else I am water concious so I might even out

Steve

workn2hard2day 10-22-2009 03:24 PM

Campbell River just announced that metered water might be in our near future too. Now I really will have an excuse not to wash my vehicle :lol:

mike31154 10-22-2009 03:57 PM

I think water meters are a good thing. Just like any utility, you should be paying for actual use, or what you 'choose' to use. I lived in a condominium townhouse (that's strata for you BC folks) in Ottawa for 13 years and cost of water use was included in the condo/strata fees. Most of the buildings had from 5 to 7 units per building, but I was in a smaller one with a 3 unit building. All other utilities were pay per use but as mentioned the water bill was included in the condo fees, which of course kept going up year after year. In addition to water, the fees covered things like landscaping, winter snow removal, management company renumeration and of course contribution to the reserve fund. The reserve fund is there to pay for major maintenance such as roof replacement and any other maintenance to the exterior of the building. Essentially you owned the inside of your abode and anything exterior, including the exterior walls, belonged to the corporation. This can be good or bad, depending on the situation. Our corporation had a good handle on the financial situation and was able to replace all the windows and doors one summer without having to collect extra fees due to lack of planning.

Anyhow, back to the water thing. At one time there was talk of installing water meters in the corporation as well but it never got off the ground. Being single and using relatively lttle water, I was subsidizing the family of five or seven with their water use and was definitely in favour of metering and paying for actual use. One of my neighbours was out washing his car every second day. I couldn't believe it, the guy was pretty anal about his car and it wasn't even anything special, just a standard GM family ride. The plan was to install a meter in one unit of every block and one of the issues that eventually sunk the idea was who's going to read the meter since the city wasn't going to start reading individual meters in a condo corporation. I suspect another factor was the water wasters in the community were quite happy to have guys like me help foot their bill. I owned my unit, but the majority of them were rented and I imagine the landlords didn't much care since they could just pass increases in condo fees on to the tenants in the form of higher rent. The turn out at the annual condo meetings was always less than stellar often with barely enough participants (owners) to have a quorum for an official meeting. One of the things I promised myself is I would never ever live in another condo corporation or strata whatever we call it here in BC. Thankfully I was able to make that a reality when I moved to Vernon.

Water is a precious resource and we're spoiled here in Canada. Since moving to the relatively dry Okanagan, I've come to appreciate this a little more and there is certainly an increased awareness of that in this area.

Tom R 10-22-2009 04:35 PM

As I understand it the meters are on the outside of the building and either Hydro or Terasen reads them when they are around reading the Gas or Electricity usage.

In many areas they will become monitory in the near future.

They are being installed for free if you agree to put them in now.
All new construction require a water meter installation included in the water hookup.

If you have not elected to install a meter before they become mandatory then you will have to pay for the installation at that time.

As a matter of wasting water, you talk of the guy that washes his car every 2nd day, I have a neighbour who washes his car and then proceeds to wash down the driveway and street in front of his house every other day.

Tom R

JPotter 10-22-2009 07:59 PM

We are in Vancouver and have been on a meter for many years!..definitely not commercial and not a new development.

sphelps 10-22-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new but handy (Post 457002)
Hey sphelps
not too many people in Van have to water their lawns:lol:

Hahaha, yeah I know. But you know what I'm getting at.

I think everyone should be on meters, it's a good thing and justifying it as a bad thing because you enjoy wasting water and not having to pay for it is just silly and irresponsible. The bottom line is the world is changing and people are starting to realize how fragile it is and how much we really rely on it yet we take things for granted. We all need to be more conscience of what we're using and that goes further than just water.

Veng68 10-22-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPotter (Post 457158)
We are in Vancouver and have been on a meter for many years!..definitely not commercial and not a new development.

Weird.......... my house is 40+ years old............ no meter.

Cheers,
Vic


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