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i have crabs 08-29-2009 11:38 PM

for your size system if your having nitrate issues id spend the $400-700 or whatever to buy a sulfer reactor/bio denitrator and im shure that would keep them low enough that regular waterchanges would have you under control.
i tried a bunch of different things to keep my nitrates down and i probably spent just as much as if i bought the dam biodenitrator so i would just do it, in 6 months of 200g waterchanges that money will be gone down the drain anyway

Myka 08-30-2009 12:21 AM

^^^ That's a thought. How bad are the nitrates anyway?

fishoholic 08-30-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by i have crabs (Post 444347)
for your size system if your having nitrate issues id spend the $400-700 or whatever to buy a sulfer reactor/bio denitrator and im shure that would keep them low enough that regular waterchanges would have you under control.
i tried a bunch of different things to keep my nitrates down and i probably spent just as much as if i bought the dam biodenitrator so i would just do it, in 6 months of 200g waterchanges that money will be gone down the drain anyway

Excellent point, I have never heard of a sulfer reactor/bio denitrator. I will have to read up on them and look into where I can find one and how much they cost. Thank-you for the info. do you know of a certain brand of one that is better then another?

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 444352)
^^^ That's a thought. How bad are the nitrates anyway?

Fairly bad :redface:

i have crabs 08-30-2009 02:49 PM

http://www.marinedepot.com/Korallin_...FRISDN-vi.html

there basicy a converted calcium reactor, i did a bunch of reading and i was ganna buy this one, detlec also makes one that apparently works well aso but has the deltec price attached

fishoholic 08-30-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by i have crabs (Post 444429)
http://www.marinedepot.com/Korallin_...FRISDN-vi.html

there basicy a converted calcium reactor, i did a bunch of reading and i was ganna buy this one, detlec also makes one that apparently works well aso but has the deltec price attached

Cool, thanks for the link

Treebeard 08-30-2009 05:37 PM

I have been using Nitrate Destroyer for two weeks. Kind of pi$$ed to find out I paid $30 for 946ml of garlic flavored vodka. :frown: I guess I will keep up with it for though.

So far I have not seen a noticeable drop in nitrates which are still hanging around 25 ppm. I have reduced my feedings of frozen food to twice per week and I am doing weekly water changes. I am constantly scrubbing hair algae off the rocks and powerheads and blasting the rocks with a turkey baster.

I am thinking of upgrading to a larger skimmer now. I currently have a Euroreef RS80 and thinking of getting a Vertex IN-180. I have about 120 gallons total water volume.

JDigital 08-30-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Treebeard (Post 444475)
I have been using Nitrate Destroyer for two weeks. Kind of pi$$ed to find out I paid $30 for 946ml of garlic flavored vodka. :frown: I guess I will keep up with it for though..

That's a tough one to swallow... would be better off just starting the Vodka Dosing regiment. :wink:

o.c.d. 08-31-2009 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 444251)
Take a sniff of that stuff...smells like....a garlic shot?? That`s because that`s pretty much what it is. Vodka with garlic to cover up the smell of the watered down vodka. For cheaper benefits, try vodka dosing instead. :D

I asked the Taliored Aquatic guy a while ago what the difference between Vodka and his product was and he replied buy reading what was on the bottle Bla bla, polyp extension, bla bla. Dancing around the question and never saying it is or has vodka in it. Last time a LFS tried to sell me it I asked to see their liquor license.

Tailored Aquatics 08-31-2009 04:16 AM

Hey Guys,
I just read the thread and thought I’d pipe in…
Thanks to all of you how have tried or are trying the product currently, im sure you will have great results, as many many others have. Nitrate Destroyer does take a few weeks or more of solid dosing to see its full results. By about week three your skimmer will start to work harder pulling a fairly light colored skim; this is when nitrate reduction really starts so make sure skimmers are clean and working at their best.
As for what is in the bottle… well that is a trade secret, just as some water conditioners don’t state their ingredients either. What I can tell you, as I have stated before there is no brand (good one or bad one) of Vodka in this product. There are multiple carbon sources in Nitrate Destroyer, none meant for human consumption, one of which is Ethanol based. Nitrate Destroyer contains no sugars, glucose or yeast but it does contain garlic. Why garlic? No not to cover the smell of Vodka that isn’t in there in the first place :razz:… It’s because garlic is known in the industry as an appetite stimulant for fish; through studies I’ve found the same thing is true for corals, so what better way to have the corals in you system feed on the bacteria we are creating with this product?...garlic .
Feel free to ask any more questions, I’ll give you this link which may answer a few more as well http://www.tailoredaquatics.com/index.html?a=0&d=63
-Brad/Tailored Aquatics

fishoholic 08-31-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tailored Aquatics (Post 444610)
Hey Guys,
I just read the thread and thought I’d pipe in…
Thanks to all of you how have tried or are trying the product currently, im sure you will have great results, as many many others have. Nitrate Destroyer does take a few weeks or more of solid dosing to see its full results. By about week three your skimmer will start to work harder pulling a fairly light colored skim; this is when nitrate reduction really starts so make sure skimmers are clean and working at their best.
As for what is in the bottle… well that is a trade secret, just as some water conditioners don’t state their ingredients either. What I can tell you, as I have stated before there is no brand (good one or bad one) of Vodka in this product. There are multiple carbon sources in Nitrate Destroyer, none meant for human consumption, one of which is Ethanol based. Nitrate Destroyer contains no sugars, glucose or yeast but it does contain garlic. Why garlic? No not to cover the smell of Vodka that isn’t in there in the first place :razz:… It’s because garlic is known in the industry as an appetite stimulant for fish; through studies I’ve found the same thing is true for corals, so what better way to have the corals in you system feed on the bacteria we are creating with this product?...garlic .
Feel free to ask any more questions, I’ll give you this link which may answer a few more as well http://www.tailoredaquatics.com/index.html?a=0&d=63
-Brad/Tailored Aquatics

Thanks for chiming in. I do believe it's a good product that will work given the proper time, unfortunately it's not very cost effective for my system which is 500g in total.


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