Difference here is I'm not gonna cram my opinion down his throat, and then call him a jerk if he doesnt agree with me.

Sorry couldnt resist....lol

As far as I know this is a place to share opinions, if he were to pipe up and say that he is not concerned about the heat then that would be the end of it from me.....how many responses to my thread did you make to try and prove me wrong? Prove me wrong on a question I had not even posed.

I got my herbie answer from you and that helped, your calculations for head pressure also helped. Those were my questions. Thanks

Sorry to hijack your thread.

If someone were to pipe up with attitude stating there's no way a mag1200 could produce exist heat I'm sure you might say something. Nothing wrong with defending that opinion.

Sometimes people need a little push in the right direction and some never like to admit they might have made a mistake. Sorry but all the information I posted was meant to benefit you and others on this forum, if you got attitude from it it's the way you read it not the way it was written. I gave you all the answers you wanted and more not sure why you hold such a grudge towards someone just trying to help out.

Also my apologies for the hi-jack

It is Herbie overflow you are asking about...not Kirby. That might help you if you do any googling for info.

I don't have time to go into an extensive explanation, but the one key thing about this kind of overflow that you need to plan for is the need to have TWO drain holes. One is the drain that all the water flows down...the other is backup incase anything ever blocks the flow down the first drain. The need for the emergency backup drain is the key design element that prevents most everyone from using this method.

haha thread overlap! :biggrin:

Hey sphelps:

You obviously arent reading everything I wrote....I said your herbie answer, and the head calculation helped....read back a little.....my hostility towards you didnt occur until you called me a jerk. I asked about a herbie....why dont you express your opinion on powerhead placement, what color corals I should keep, how about how many fish I have.

Untamed:
If you where talking to me about the herbie....yes I have the 2 holes in the bottom of my tank, I do believe 1 hole is smaller than the other(tanks been up 4 years, hard to remember) so I do have the emergency drain as well.

Again sorry about the hijack.

For the record I said "if you want to be a jerk" it was your decision not mine.

yes herbie, thats it thank you, yes it seems after some new research i don't think im going to go that route, i am planning however to have a refuge in my sump and a 20g tank off the side that i will find a way to pipe every thing in together in the future. i had already planned on having ball valves on everything if for no other reason than to shut everything in if necessary had never thought to use them as a choke thank you. i have already had problems keeping the heat down so will have to find a way to counter affect that if it becomes more of a problem. as far as what live stock i was planning i was interested in clams but based on info stating that they like a calmer atmosphere will be steering away from them based on the fact that i already have some softies that like the flow. speaking of not sure on the proper edeqite have a few questions regarding some live stock in my tank do i carry on here or post a new thread

your call but you'll probably get better results on a new thread.

Take it to PM guys... My god!!