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parkinsn 03-04-2009 07:29 PM

Ya the ballast says right on it Advanced. kinda made me mad because work for an electrical wholesaler and we sell Advanced could have saved a lot of $$$ putting one together my self.

Whatigot 03-04-2009 07:38 PM

aren't they almost 1/3rd the price?
Glad I didnt buy mine new....lol

If vertex is indeed the smae as the icecap and you are dead set on buying new...
It would seem obvious the best choice would be vertex and the 15k iwasaki par busters...?
performance and some savings....a rare combo.

fkshiu 03-04-2009 07:44 PM

I know EVC and Aromat ballasts are both Chinese - these are the other two 175W e-ballasts that Sanjay has tested. I've asked Icecap where theirs is made.

I'm not surprised that Vertex is simply a rebadge job. The only question is which manufacturer is being rebadged.

parkinsn 03-04-2009 07:45 PM

Well i get cost so its like $35 for the ballast and like $10 for the upgraded ignitor a $.50 switch and $10 junction box, a little know how = priceless

As for them all being the same.... There is only a handful of ballast manufacturers everybody just puts their name on it, hence why i can believe that Vertex and Icecap are the same. But im sure you would never get that on paper.

Whatigot 03-04-2009 07:48 PM

I have now heard from a lfs employee who does a lot of the ordering for his store that the Vertex are in fact ice cap rebadges.
still just hearsay I suppose, but promising.

fkshiu 03-04-2009 07:51 PM

Since I have both a PAR meter and a Kill-a-Watt now I can put whatever I end up getting to the test.

Whatigot 03-04-2009 07:53 PM

you see this?
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=icecap

fkshiu 03-04-2009 10:07 PM

Interesting. Thanks.

albert_dao 03-04-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatigot (Post 395549)
oh cool.
I would love to see that substantiated....

I'm looking for some 250 ballasts and it seems like the ice caps have the best performance with my bulb of choice, the phoenix.

and wasn't it the icecaps that made the175 watt iwasaki par buster?
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/12/review#h12

Seems whenever I do dd into ballasts, icecap consistently comes up as a solid performer...

IceCap and Vertex are the same ballast.

Sanjay has tested them. He's lazy. Here's a communication via email:

Yes, I tested your ballasts, and need to start writing up the results. Basically it performs as well as or better than the other electronic ballasts. With electronic ballasts I have noticed that they all tend to perform in a tight range.
I will send you the results as soon as I finish writing it up.
sanjay.


Enjoy :)

Myka 03-05-2009 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 395559)
Thanks Tom, but I am looking at the 175W electronic + Iwasaki 15K combo that will produce more light and use less juice than with a TAR.

This is exactly what I'm looking at too. I'm also wondering the PAR on the Galaxy ballasts, I sure would like to know!!! I do know however that the PFO ballasts look IDENTICAL to the IceCap ballasts when you take them apart. I do not believe they are at all different from eachother, so I would have a hard time paying the extra bucks for an IceCap.


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