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ElGuappo 01-26-2009 08:48 PM

IMO i would not go with a turbo. while they are great they crap alot and are very clumbsy when they get larger. for the sand go with some nass.(nassuris.sp) snail and maybe even a sandsifting star. Many will tell you your tank is too small for one and it will starve, i have always had 1 in my RSM and still on my first one. even at times with a second in there. however my rock work is basically on stilts providng lots of room for them to roam.

jalemboo 01-26-2009 10:12 PM

totally agree, still have 2 more weeks to go.

gbeef 01-28-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ElGuappo (Post 381105)
IMO i would not go with a turbo. while they are great they crap alot and are very clumbsy when they get larger. for the sand go with some nass.(nassuris.sp) snail and maybe even a sandsifting star. Many will tell you your tank is too small for one and it will starve, i have always had 1 in my RSM and still on my first one. even at times with a second in there. however my rock work is basically on stilts providng lots of room for them to roam.

Turbos are the only hair to get rid of LONG hair algae thats my personal experince. Once the job is done just give him away or bring him back to the store. Hell just borrow one.. hahaha
I wouldnt leave a turbo in my tank, but i would use one after a cycle... They MOW thru anything.

Snaz 01-28-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gbeef (Post 381842)
Turbos are the only hair to get rid of LONG hair algae thats my personal experince. Once the job is done just give him away or bring him back to the store. Hell just borrow one.. hahaha
I wouldnt leave a turbo in my tank, but i would use one after a cycle... They MOW thru anything.

Hmm I have never seen hair algae, I guess my Turbo takes care of that. He seems healthy enough and it certainly is growing so he must be finding something to eat. I agree they can be bulldozers

jalemboo 01-29-2009 04:22 AM

yeah, starting to see small algae hair growing on my rock. Is one turbo snail enough for a 28G.

Myka 01-29-2009 01:04 PM

I've never seen a Turbo eat hair algae...

jalemboo 01-31-2009 04:28 AM

For some reason, i got lots of air bubbles all over my rocks, is that a sign of trouble?

Snaz 02-01-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jalemboo (Post 382920)
For some reason, i got lots of air bubbles all over my rocks, is that a sign of trouble?

Reefers please correct me if I am wrong but I think the answer is thus:

Bubbles are either Oxygen or Nitrogen. If they are on plants or only observed after the light has been on for a long time then they are result of photosynthesis. Good.

Nitrogen bubbles are produced when anaerobic bacteria turn nitrates into Nitrogen, also good. Anaerobic bacteria shun oxygen and usually live in deep sandbeds, not all reef tanks get these anaerobes which take the nitrogen cycle one step further.

Myka 02-01-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaz (Post 383268)
Reefers please correct me if I am wrong but I think the answer is thus:

Bubbles are either Oxygen or Nitrogen. If they are on plants or only observed after the light has been on for a long time then they are result of photosynthesis. Good.

Nitrogen bubbles are produced when anaerobic bacteria turn nitrates into Nitrogen, also good. Anaerobic bacteria shun oxygen and usually live in deep sandbeds, not all reef tanks get these anaerobes which take the nitrogen cycle one step further.

The bubbles on the rocks are probably air not oxygen or nitrogen, just caused by aerated water probably from powerheads.

Anaerobic bacteria are mainly found in the middle portions of your live rock, so you can count on having a good sized population in any tank that has live rock. This is one of the many reasons that a DSB isn't needed imo. All tanks which have adequate amounts of good live rock should never have a detectable nitrate reading. If your tank does, then there is an imbalance somewhere, usually caused by excess nutrients as a direct result from overstocking and/or poor nutrient export.

jalemboo 02-01-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaz (Post 383268)
Reefers please correct me if I am wrong but I think the answer is thus:

Bubbles are either Oxygen or Nitrogen. If they are on plants or only observed after the light has been on for a long time then they are result of photosynthesis. Good.

Nitrogen bubbles are produced when anaerobic bacteria turn nitrates into Nitrogen, also good. Anaerobic bacteria shun oxygen and usually live in deep sandbeds, not all reef tanks get these anaerobes which take the nitrogen cycle one step further.

That is correct, my bubble only present after long period of expose to light.

My nirtrates is not detectable.

Does moon light do anything to the reefs or just for looks.


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