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GreenSpottedPuffer 01-12-2009 04:55 PM

Man I was just reading this again and realized I hate how supportive I sound of Bush...

Well, if guilt makes one do things which are good for the world, that good is still a good, no matter what the motivation. A goal is a goal, and really doesn't matter if it dribbled in off the tender's fingers, or was a brilliant strike from midfield. (Love soccer)

Where am I going with this?

What Bush did for the world's oceans a few weeks back was an act of incredible
sensitivity, even if he did it to cover up 8 years of a White House Ponzi scheme to confuse taxpayer citizen's. The protective measures are an incredible goal for the u.S., no matter the reason it got there.

BUT. Read the attached. What a disgusting man, even if only part of these things are true. As facts emerge, he is trying to cover up 8 years of wrongdoings (torture, Abu Graib, lies about how strong domestic Iraq securities forces are becoming, uranium in Africa which was the final straw to invade Iraq and which is now known to be an utterly open and disgusting lie, and so on).

The Ponzi scheme? Keep spending taxpayer money to finance these lies, and tell the American public that democracy and world peace are their return on investment. But when no more money can be borrowed, the truth comes out. Always does.

Sorry about the rant...I just hate how I sounded in that last post ;)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/op..._r=1&th&emc=th

Doug 01-12-2009 08:55 PM

Yer becoming political now. Guess what happens then. :D


:lol:

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-12-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 376898)
Yer becoming political now. Guess what happens then. :D


:lol:

I....Uh....get a prize?

Honestly I have no idea???

This is a political thread, so...

fragNplug 01-13-2009 06:11 AM

i started this thread to inform guys of what happened in the usa about the protection of reef landscape, and seems everyone has focused on bush and his wrong doings over the last 2 terms, not that i am one to dismiss the fact that he was probably in my opinion the worst USA president ever, the fact that he actually did some good as he was leaving office is impressive. But then again this was his last stand, he have 8 other years to do good things and did very little cept make the USA poor over war, and blow the world economy to nothing.
If he had done something as good as this every month of his 8 years we all would be better off in the long run.

As for the new president oboma, he better go green!

Doug 01-13-2009 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 376953)
I....Uh....get a prize?

Honestly I have no idea???

This is a political thread, so...

Taken from Lounge main page;


*Anything off topic (i.e. doesn't fit in other forums) and non-commercial (subject to Staff's discretion), but please keep it civil and exercise common sense. E.g., No religion/politics, no offensive material, no items for*

:smile:

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-13-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 377061)
Taken from Lounge main page;


*Anything off topic (i.e. doesn't fit in other forums) and non-commercial (subject to Staff's discretion), but please keep it civil and exercise common sense. E.g., No religion/politics, no offensive material, no items for*

:smile:

Oh....Whoops. Sorry Doug :)

I actually just thought that was a RC uptight rule :D Never even crossed my mind that in a more liberal Canadian forum it would be a big deal.

I guess I should actually READ the rules sometime.

Doug 01-13-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 377229)
Oh....Whoops. Sorry Doug :)

I actually just thought that was a RC uptight rule :D Never even crossed my mind that in a more liberal Canadian forum it would be a big deal.

I guess I should actually READ the rules sometime.

Hey no problem. You guys were just getting close to the line :lol:
Actually except for maybe RDO, most other boards are the same. Political & religious discussion always ends in a heated argument, which really has no place on an aquarium board.

For anyone wishing to argue those topics, for whatever reason, on a reefing board, {I know thats not this thread}, give the sump on RDO a go. :smile: Actually RC even created its own board for that purpose, but it got so bad I think they closed it. :lol:

And I would guess there are boards out there, for discussing those topics, { discussing, :lol:, now thats a laugh}.

Anywho, like most of the other reefing boards, we just dont wish to moderate those types of threads or have to make decisions on our members after they get into a heated argument and name calling session. :lol:

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-14-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 377244)
Hey no problem. You guys were just getting close to the line :lol:
Actually except for maybe RDO, most other boards are the same. Political & religious discussion always ends in a heated argument, which really has no place on an aquarium board.

For anyone wishing to argue those topics, for whatever reason, on a reefing board, {I know thats not this thread}, give the sump on RDO a go. :smile: Actually RC even created its own board for that purpose, but it got so bad I think they closed it. :lol:

And I would guess there are boards out there, for discussing those topics, { discussing, :lol:, now thats a laugh}.

Anywho, like most of the other reefing boards, we just dont wish to moderate those types of threads or have to make decisions on our members after they get into a heated argument and name calling session. :lol:

Yup totally makes sense! I forget how these threads WILL turn out if there was not that rule. I feel like we should be able to discuss these topics and not get out of hand. I have very strong beliefs myself but always make sure I try to understand where people with opposing views are coming from and although I usually still will not agree with their views in the end, I really believe its important to respect them...

Sorry, hope this is not also political somehow!

Oh and BTW, I have no interest in finding a forum to "argue" in :lol: I just happened to have a view on this subject and chimed in since it was already here.


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