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fkshiu 11-19-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McK (Post 361256)
Did you want to check out my BK?

J

Sure, but I'd like to check out your tank again even more ;)

fkshiu 11-19-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chin_Lee (Post 361271)
I just ordered a Dwyer RMC-53D and getting a Watt-meter too - can hardly wait to test the results.

Oooh, that RMC is one of the big suckers, much bigger than my wee little RMA.

Jason McK 11-19-2008 03:50 PM

What is a Dwyer RMC-53D

Any time Franklin

StirCrazy 11-19-2008 03:52 PM

what exactly are you testing and what are you using as a basis for comparason?

Steve

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Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 357743)
Ever wonder how your skimmer is actually performing? Ever wanted a more objective measure other than "Gee, a lot of brown crud is coming out?". Well wonder no more as your friendly neighbourhood GVRD skimmer testing team (a.k.a. Vic, Anthony et moi) is now on the loose!

We'll be heading out to visit some LFS in Abbotsford on Saturday and bringing my
Dwyer RMA-22 airflow meter and Kill-a-Watt with us. Just let me know if you want us to put your skimmer through its paces!


Chin_Lee 11-19-2008 04:17 PM

flowmeter
 
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Originally Posted by Jason McK (Post 361283)
What is a Dwyer RMC-53D

its basically a air flowmeter. This Dwyer models comes in different sizes:
RMA - 2"
RMB - 5"
RMC - 10"

I just double checked and i made a mistake. mines actually the rmc-102
http://www.noblersport.com/ebayimg/xb/xb116a.jpg

this model rmc-102 measures between 10-100 scfh (5-50 liter per minute)

fkshiu 11-19-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 361284)
what exactly are you testing and what are you using as a basis for comparason?

Steve

Air draw (or "suckage" as I like to say) of the pump versus electrical draw of the pump. It is a good objective measure of the efficiency of the skimmer pump since skimmers are basically air/water mixers. It also puts the manufacturer's advertised numbers to the test and you can compare the numbers to what others have measured with the same or comparable skimmers.

The interesting thing in particular about needlewheel skimmer pumps is that they are being used for a purpose that they were never designed for. Needlewheel pumps are all initially designed to pump water and only water. When you add air into the mix a lot of things can change. Firstly, the amount of energy the pump uses goes down since air is easier to move than water. Secondly, things such as needwheel design, volute design etc. can affect how much air is drawn and how much energy is used. As a result, the Sedra on TomR's ASM G5 is probably pulling a different amount of air at a different wattage than the same model of Sedra on a Euroreef, for example.

fkshiu 11-19-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chin_Lee (Post 361288)
its basically a air flowmeter. This Dwyer models comes in different sizes:
RMA - 2"
RMB - 5"
RMC - 10"

I just double checked and i made a mistake. mines actually the rmc-102
http://www.noblersport.com/ebayimg/xb/xb116a.jpg

this model rmc-102 measures between 10-100 scfh (5-50 liter per minute)


For Chin it's all gone phallic :P

He needs the monster flowmeter because of the monster numbers he's going to get from his monster skimmer pump. My RMA-22 tops out at 25 LPM (half of the RMC-102):

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...u/IMG_5937.jpg

Jason, the Red Dragon on your BK may max out my RMA-22 since I expect it to draw around 30 LPM, so Chin's RMC-102 may be to right tool to measure it with.

Tom R 11-19-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 361217)
No problemo. Let's try to arrange a time. I can be out in Surry sometime next week.

I am generally available, just give me a call the day before.

Tom R

superduperwesman 11-19-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 357743)
Ever wonder how your skimmer is actually performing? Ever wanted a more objective measure other than "Gee, a lot of brown crud is coming out?". Well wonder no more as your friendly neighbourhood GVRD skimmer testing team (a.k.a. Vic, Anthony et moi) is now on the loose!

We'll be heading out to visit some LFS in Abbotsford on Saturday and bringing my
Dwyer RMA-22 airflow meter and Kill-a-Watt with us. Just let me know if you want us to put your skimmer through its paces!

Cool... I don't have a skimmer :(


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