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kaboom 10-16-2008 05:32 PM

Not sure what teleposts are. Adding more 2x6 studs to the that exterior wall shouldn't be a problem. Do you think strengthening that wall alone will increase the overall load capacity, or would I have to upgrade surrounding walls as well. The opposing wall is 24 ft away, don't think it would help much? Thoughts?

kaboom 10-16-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic111 (Post 352643)
FYI, 90% of residential floors are designed to handle 40lbs/ft2 live load, and about 15lbs/ft2 dead load.

It is fairly easy to work out what your weight of a tank/water/equipment etc uses, divide that by the area of the tank, and that will tell you if you are good.

My total weight is to be 2500lb and the total footprint is 2'x6'
So 2500 divide 12 = 208, that 208lb/ft2 the tank is imposing on the floor. Way too heavy according to your numbers, unless I am not getting right?

toxic111 10-16-2008 05:54 PM

At over 200lbs/ft2 you will be over weight. With out seeing things up close I can't say what the best way to deal with it.

Your best bet is to have a structural engineer come over and look over things, and give his suggestions. Your wall studs @ 16"o.c. will carry the load, it is the joists & the beams may be the issue.

GreenSpottedPuffer 10-16-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic111 (Post 352643)
FYI, 90% of residential floors are designed to handle 40lbs/ft2 live load, and about 15lbs/ft2 dead load.

It is fairly easy to work out what your weight of a tank/water/equipment etc uses, divide that by the area of the tank, and that will tell you if you are good.

Where are you getting this from? Just curious because I had an engineer come by our last place and the numbers were WAY different. And he was being conservative.

lastlight 10-16-2008 06:04 PM

I'm certainly not an engineer (rather an engineering DROPOUT) but I'd never proceed without jackposts at least under the tank. I'd have them on either side of the tank really.

My livingroom 225 gallon has (5) 2x14 laminated beams under it's rear with a pair of jackposts supporting its front which rest on an 8x3 footing poured beneath the basement floor.

When full i can jump (220lbs I am) next to the tank and I see the FAINTEST ripple. My old 65 gallon used to move quite a bit in my last house on the main floor with just a single set of jackposts beneath it.

Just my 0.02 though. I did this planning before the house was built.

kaboom 10-16-2008 06:05 PM

Worried: big tank over garage....need ideas
 
toxic, is that a typo? Because those numbers don't make any sense. 15lb/sqft max. sounds like a straw house limits.

Greenspotpuffer, what numbers did you get from your source, if you don't mind sharing.

toxic111 10-16-2008 06:13 PM

The numbers I am giving you are based on my experience as a Residential & Commercial designer. The 15lbs/ft2 is dead load, which is based on the material itself.

The 40lbs/ft2 is the live load, which is people, furniture, fish tanks, etc.

Consider live load to be anything that can be moved, and the dead load the structure it self.

If you need more info I will pull out my building code to verify.

AJ_77 10-16-2008 06:23 PM

this article might help:

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...ium_weight.php

GreenSpottedPuffer 10-16-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic111 (Post 352659)
The numbers I am giving you are based on my experience as a Residential & Commercial designer. The 15lbs/ft2 is dead load, which is based on the material itself.

The 40lbs/ft2 is the live load, which is people, furniture, fish tanks, etc.

Consider live load to be anything that can be moved, and the dead load the structure it self.

If you need more info I will pull out my building code to verify.

Ok makes sense then :)

My fiance just reminded me that the place I am talking about was an industrial building that had been turned into condos, so way different from a house. He gave us the numbers as roughly 150lbs/ft2. Sorry I should have realized a house is going to be different.

I am having an engineer come to my current condo to take a look but it sounds like a waste of time from what people are telling me because my new place is a ridiculously overbuilt concrete building. Not just the floors but walls are all concrete too.

BC564 10-16-2008 06:48 PM

Does the post below this room have a weight marking on it......it should be on there.


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